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Wabunge wanaposhangilia Posho Mpya za Madiwani...!

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Kivumah, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Kivumah

    Kivumah JF-Expert Member

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    Waziri Mkuu Pinda ametangaza katika hotuba yake ya Bajeti leo Bungeni kwamba kuanzia mwaka huu wa fedha Madiwani wataanza kulipwa Posho mpya zilizoboreshwa, cha kushangaza wabunge wakapiga mameza yao kushangalia hilo....!!
    Hivi kweli tumefikia hapa pa kushangilia hili wakati hospitalini leo hakuna Madaktari waliogoma kwa kutolipwa!!
     
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    mob JF-Expert Member

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    kilichobaki ni sisi watanzania bila ya kujali itikadi zenu na vyama vyetu kusimama na kudai huduma bora na kuwatetea hawa madaktari kwa kuwa hawa ndio wanatutibu sisi ila wao wakiugua wanapelekwa india kwa matibabu .
     
  3. Sangarara

    Sangarara JF-Expert Member

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    Kwani hao madiwani sio madiwani wetu? au haujui kwamba madai ya mafao yao nalo ni jambo la msingi pia?
     
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    Kwa hiyo hutaki madiwani waongezewe posho?
     
  5. ndinga

    ndinga Member

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    Nao pia ni madiwani kikatiba ndo maana wakashangilia,wabunge wetu wapo kimaslahi zaidi.
     
  6. Sangarara

    Sangarara JF-Expert Member

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    Safi sana, kwa hiyo wanashangilia kwamba wameongezewa posho zingine sio?
     
  7. Narubongo

    Narubongo JF-Expert Member

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    safi sana, madiwani walikuwa na hali ngumu sana iliyofanya waweze kununulika kirahisi na wakurugenzi pamoja na wasaka tenda
     
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    Ngandema Bwila JF-Expert Member

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    Wanashangilia Kwani wanajua Madiwani watapunguza kuwapiga Mizinga!
     
  9. Mwanajamii

    Mwanajamii JF-Expert Member

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    Mambo yote ya maendeleo kwa wananchi aliyosema waziri Mkuu hayakushangilia kwa nguvu na muda mrefu kama yongeza ya posho ya wabunge
     
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    mizambwa JF-Expert Member

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    Wabunge pia ni Wajumbe katika Baraza la Madiwani, hivyo wanajua kuwa ikiongezeka ni sawa na wao pia wameongezewa ya kule Baraza la Madiwani.

    Ndio maana wanashangilia posho hiyo mpya.



    MIZAMBWA
    INANIUMA SANA!!!
     
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    EL MAGNIFICAL JF-Expert Member

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    tatizo huku kwetu kila mtu mjuaji.
     
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    WildCard JF-Expert Member

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    Halafu tunashangaa kwa nini bajeti ya maendeleo ni asilimia 30 tu! Tuendelee tu kugharamia SIASA kama mazezeta huku Wabunge wetu wakishangilia. Fedha za matumizi ya kawaida zitazidi kuongezeka tu kwa sababu zifuatazo:
    -Tunaongeza kata na hivyo madiwani nao wanaongezeka sambamba na posho zao;
    -Tunaongeza Majimbo na kuongeza idadi ya Wabunge na mishahara na posho zao;
    -Tunaongeza Wilaya na hivyo kuongeza wakuu wa wilaya, maDAS, maOCD, maDSO,...;
    -Tunaongeza Mikoa na wakuu wa mikoa na maRAS, maRSO, maRPC,...;
    -Tunaongeza mawizara, mawaziri, maNaibu wao, maKatibu wakuu, maKamishna, waKurugenzi,...;
    Yaani kila tatizo linapojitokeza tunaongeza WANASIASA. Kila kitu tunadhani ufumbuzi wake ni wa kisiasa. Ni kuongeza posho. Tuendelee tu kugharamia SIASA.
     
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    STEIN JF-Expert Member

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    Mimi nashangaa, kwa nini inakuwa rahisi kwa viongozi wa KIsiasa kuongezewa Posho lakini ni vigumu kwa Madaktari na waalimu kuongezewa Posho?????

    Au kwa vile madiwani wengi wanakula madili na Wabunge.
     
  14. Graph Theory

    Graph Theory JF-Expert Member

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    Another silly season.
    WASIOSOMA NI CHAKULA CHA WASOMI.
     
  15. Nyahende Thomas

    Nyahende Thomas Verified User

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    Sababu mojawapo ya kusababisha usimamizi mbaya ama dhaifu wa madiwani katika shughuli za maendeleo hasa miradi ya maendeleo ni kutokana na kukosa sauti ya kuwahoji wakurugenzi kutokana na malipo madogo sana wanayolipwa, hivyo wakurugenzi wanapotaka wapitishe mambo yao kiulaini wanachofanya ni kuwapa madiwani vitripu vya kwenda kujifunza kwenye halmashauri nyingine na kuwajaza miposho mbalimbali.

    Kutokana na njaa walizonazo hujikuta wanalegea kusimamia fedha za umma.
    Ingawa kuwalipa posho nzuri hakuwezi ku-guarantee kwa 100% utumishi bora zaidi lakini ni ukweli kwamba itawapa nguvu ya kuwa makini zaidi na angalau kwa kiasi fulani itawasaidia kuwafanya wawe huru zaidi kusimamia fedha za umma kwakuwa watakuwa wanajimudu kiasi fulani badala ya kutegemea fadhila ya mkurugenzi.

    Hata hivyo tunatakiwa kutathmini mfumo bora zaidi wa kuwalipa posho na stahili mbalimbali watumishi wote wa umma, ikiwa ni pamoja na wabunge na madiwani. Kwakuwa ni jambo lisilowezekana kutegemea utumishi bora kutoka kwa mtu ambae halipwi kiasi kinachomuwezesha kukidhi mahitaji yake. Kwahiyo sidhani kama tunaweza kukwepa kuigharmia siasa kwa wakati huu.

    Na kuna baadhi ya watu wanasema madiwani wanatakiwa kuwa na kazi zao za kuwaingizia kipato ili wafanye kazi za udiwani kwa kujitolea kitu ambacho kwa hakika kinashusha ufanisi wao kwakuwa wanalazimika kujitafutia riziki kwanza ndipo baadae wafanye shughuli za wananchi.
     
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    Nyahende,
    Hakuna posho au mshahara utakaomtosha diwani aache kuomba kwa mkurugenzi wa Halmashauri. Wabunge wana mishahara na posho nyingi sana. Wameacha kuomba? Wameacha kuchukua bahasha za khaki kwenye taasisi zetu za umma? Mawaziri wana mishahara na posho kubwa sana lakini angalia wanavyozitafuna taasisi zilizo chini ya wizara zao. Kwa nini tunageuza nafasi za KISIASA kuwa vitega uchumi? Kwa nini tunageuza nafasi za kisiasa kuwa AJIRA? Fedha ambazo zingewanufaisha WATANZANIA kuboresha huduma za kijamii tunagharamia wanasiasa na siasa!
     
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    sabasita JF-Expert Member

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    wacha we kwa hiyo solution ishapatikana maana kama swala ni kipato kina idd simba wasingeuza UDA
     
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    petrol JF-Expert Member

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    Nasikitika sikubaliani nawe kabisa. Mbona Wabunge na Mawaziri wanalipwa vizuri sana lakini mipango ya maendeleo inelekea kukwama. Tutafute sababu za msingi kwa nini mambo yetu yanakwama karibu kila kona.
     
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    TOWNSEND JF-Expert Member

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    watalipwa sh ngapi na serikali ili wasipewe mgao wao wa rushwa mfano tenda moja million 20?

     
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    Orche Senior Member

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    Madiwani kulipwa posho halali kulingana na kazi wanayofanya ni haki yao, ila inatisha wabunge wanaposhangilia kwa kuwa na wao ni madiwani. Hawajui kuwa kuwalipa posho kubwa Wabunge bila kujali mahitaji wa wataalaam na watendaji imeleta dhahama kubwa kwa wananchi. Wabunge wetu uzalendo haupo na wapo kimaslahi tu, wanachi tuione hilo.
     
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