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Wabunge Kenya wajiongeza mishahara

Discussion in 'Kenyan News and Politics' started by nomasana, Jun 30, 2010.

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    nomasana JF-Expert Member

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    Kenya MPs have unanimously passed the report raising their salaries from Sh851,000 to Sh1.1 million after a short debate Wednesday.

    At 5.16pm, Mr Luka Kigen (Rongai, ODM) rose to block any other MP –none had sought to catch the Speaker’s eye anyway—from contributing and instead asked temporary deputy Speaker Gitobu Imanyara to allow the mover of the motion, Mr Walter Nyambati (Kitutu Masaba, NLP), to put an end to the debate.


    Mr Nyambati duly obliged, Mr Imanyara put the matter to a verbal vote and the 40MPs in the House excitedly shouted their unanimous ‘aye’.


    MPs John Mbadi (Gwassi, ODM) and Simon Mbugua (Kamukunji, PNU) intimated to their colleagues to conclude their contributions quickly.


    Endorse Bills


    Treasury now will have to look for money to foot the increased monthly bill for the honourable members. And within seven days, MPs are ready to endorse three Bills to ensure they get their money.


    The lawmakers have no apologies for the huge perks that they approved Wednesday, because from those who spoke during the debate, "there’s no adequate remuneration for MPs".


    Mr Nyambati, the Parliamentary Service Commission vice chairman, set the tone for the adoption of the report.


    “Human nature is that employers want to pay less to their employees; while the employees want more to justify the work done. We need to balance these two,” he said. “It will be unjust to reduce the remuneration of MPs half-way through their (five-year) contract.”


    The joint whip, Mr Jakoyo Midiwo (Gem, ODM) seconded the motion and blamed liars for spreading rumours and giving the public a “wrong impression of their leaders".


    He then backed the retirement package for the Prime Minister, the Vice President and the Speaker: “We can’t afford to have (retired) public servants beg, after serving this country.”


    “The retired vice presidents are living on goodwill. Let’s recognise that if Kalonzo Musyoka retires today, he’ll have no retirement package.”


    Dr Boni Khalwale (Ikolomani, New Ford Kenya) termed the pay rise as “a move towards restoring honour to the profession of politics".


    He thanked the tribunal for exempting some of the allowances from taxation and proposed that the amount could have been more.


    “This Sh95,000 (for car allowance) is nothing compared to what is required to replace the entire suspension system of your car if you go home every week,” said Dr Khalwale


    He asked two MPs –Johnstone Muthama (Kang’undo, ODM-K) and Peter Kenneth (Gatanga, PNU)—to legitimately join Parliament in remitting their taxes to the Kenya Revenue Authority. The two MPs began paying tax due to public pressure to have the lawmakers’ perks taxed.


    Heavy responsibility


    Mr Martin Ogindo (Rangwe, ODM), Mr Abdul Bahari (Isiolo South, Kanu) and assistant minister Aden Duale supported the perks saying MPs “did a lot of work".


    “In my view, the amount of money you pay an MP cannot compensate for the heavy responsibility that they shoulder in economic, political and social development of this country,” said Mr Duale.


    “Nowhere in this world has public opinion been used to reduce the salary of a person.”
     
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    nomasana JF-Expert Member

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    dont these monkeys get it????

    goodness me.

    i f*cking hate kenyan politicians just f*cking hate them!!!!!!!! just conniving pieces of s**t!!! good lawd i hate these kenyan politicians

    why the hell are you going to give yourself a payraise whenthe common man cant find a job?????

    AB TITCHAZ, please forgive my cursing but i do not know how anyone can read this and not get mad.

    it pisses me off. they dont give the slightest s**t about the common mwananchi.

    kenyans should just storm into the parliament like they did in thailand and make these f*cking bastards know exactly how we feel about their pay increase. afterall its our freaking money. we should march on the streets, go on a national strike and do whatever is necessary for these monkey MP's to understand that we dont like whatever they are trying to do.

    how can they justify giving themselves a payrise???? HOW???????????????????

    i dont why i am so mad but i just got pissed by the so called kenyan MP's
     
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    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    I understand your anger about the Kenyan politicians...the only thing they seem to agree on enmasse
    is hiking their salaries and refusing to pay taxes. Ya'll need to get rid of these people come the next
    GE...seriously. They are an embarassment to intelligence.
     
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    Wakati wabunge wa Uingereza wanalipwa around $ 98,000 kwa mwaka na hawawezi hata kujipangia mishahara yao, wabunge wa Kenya, pamoja na umasikini wa nchi yao, wanajipangia kujilipa mishahara ya $ 126,000 kwa mwaka.

    Yaani sasa tunawazidi hata wanaotupa misaada. Wabunge wa Kenya wakipitisha ongezeko hili watakuwa wanalipwa just over $ 13,000, above most of Europe's parliamentalians.



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    BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Guide: Europe's MPs' pay packages



    Pay and allowances for MPs - UK Parliament

    Who sets the levels of MPs' pay and allowances?

    The Review Body on Senior Salaries (SSRB) is responsible for determining MPs' pay, setting the level of any increase in their salary in line with those in the Civil Service. The SSRB also suggests the amounts paid in allowances to Members of both Houses.


    BBC News - Kenyan MPs vote to join world's best paid lawmakers


    MPs say they must be well paid because of the responsibility they have
    MPs in Kenya have voted to boost their own salaries, making them among the world's best paid politicians.

    Under the new legislation, the Kenyan prime minister will take home over a third more than his British counterpart.

    He will also earn almost 10% more than the US president. The vote has provoked anger from the general public and the media, correspondents say.

    The parliamentarians have voted to be paid a basic $44,000 (£29,000) a year.

    But extra allowances can bring the salary up to up to $126,000 (£84,000) after tax - a rise of 18%.

    The allowances include $370 (£250) a day for turning up in parliament.

    Continue reading the main story
    If you feel MPs are being paid heftily, join parliament

    Assistant minister
    Average annual income in Kenya is about $730 (£490), while most of the population earns less than $1 (66p) a day.

    If approved, the legislation would take effect during the next parliament, expected in two years' time.

    BBC East Africa correspondent Peter Greste said the MPs' debate on their salaries was extraordinarily quick.

    The Daily Nation newspaper reported that one MP described the pay-increase as "a move towards restoring honour to the profession of politics".

    One politician was quoted as saying that the amount of money paid to MPs could not compensate "for the heavy responsibility they shoulder in the economic, political and social development of the country".

    It also quoted an assistant minister as trying to dismiss criticism of the vote by saying:

    "If you feel MPs are being paid heftily, join parliament. [And if you are in parliament] if you feel you have enough, give a chance to your colleagues."

    An editorial in the Standard newspaper argued that Kenyans might be able to stomach the huge numbers involved if it meant the selfless delivery of services and an end to corruption.
     
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    Source:bbc

    MPs in Kenya have voted to boost their own salaries, making them among the world's best paid politicians.

    Under the new legislation, the Kenyan prime minister will take home over a third more than his British counterpart.

    He will also earn almost 10% more than the US president. The vote has provoked anger from the general public and the media, correspondents say.

    The parliamentarians have voted to be paid a basic $44,000 (£29,000) a year.

    But extra allowances can bring the salary up to up to $126,000 (£84,000) after tax - a rise of 18%.
     
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    hapa kuna conflict of interest nadhani na Bunge letu la tanzania tunayo yaani wao wenyewe ndo wanajadili mishahara na marupupu. Tusibiri wa tanzania ngwe ya 2010-2015 kwa kigezo cha kulinganisha na wabunge wezao wawa maataifa mengine badala ya pato la taifa na wao watajiongezea tu.

    Hi inaonyesha why we are underveloped.
    Tofauti na wenzetu the most best top paying jobs are politcs ndiyo maana mprof wa chuo wanakimbilia kwenye ubunge. Kwa nini mbunge awe na marupurupu na mshahara kuliko Mganga Mkuu wa Mkoa au RPC au Afisa ELimu wa Mkoa.

    Sijui kwenye baraza la mawziri la US an UK kuna maprofesa an Ma Dk wangapi?
     
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    Kiranga JF-Expert Member

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    Conflict of interest indeed,

    Ndiyo maana nikatoa hiyo link hapo juu kuonyesha kwa mfano Uingereza, wabunge hawawezi kujiongezea mishahara wenyewe kwa sababu anayeamua mishahara ya wabunge si mbunge.

    Kinachosikitisha ni kwamba bajeti za nchi nyingi masikini ni tegemezi, zinategemea misaada kutoka nchi tajiri, na hapo hapo wabunge wa nchi tajiri, pamoja na wananchi wao, wanajifunga mkanda, wabunge hata hawalipwi kama wabunge wetu, especially ukiweka ratios za uzalishaji na mishahara, GDP, balance of payments etc.

    Ndiyo maana unaanza kuona Norwegians wanaanza kuomba hela zao za msaada kwa Tanzania back, kwa sababu wanaona upuuuzi, unamsaidia mtu masikini, halafu unaona masikini ananunua bling bling ambazo hata wewe mwenyewe huwezi kufikiri kununua.

    A tragedy.
     
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    Hukuweka wazi kwamba katika makala hiyo hiyo uliyopachua bandika jedwali la malipo wameanisha wazi kwamba wastani wa jumla ya mshahara na marupurupu ya mwakilishi wa Kiingereza ni £135,600. Wewe umetuwekea mshahara tu halafu ukalinganisha na mshahara + marupurupu ya mwakilishi wa Kikenya.

    Ningesema hukuwa na vyanzo vizuri, bahati mbaya. Lakini kumbe ni chanzo kile kile, kusudi. Uchambuzi aina hii ni wa kishabikishabiki, au uhabithi wa kimawazo. Namba haziongopi, hawa wabunge hawachekani.

     
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    That's among the many reasons Kenya is in 3rd world
     
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    yah... na wanajisifia wako juu kisa bajeti yao inachangiwa na silimia 6 tu ya misaada ya nje..... wanasafiria nyota ya walowezi waliobaki humo, hawana lolote.....!!!!Soko la pamoja ndo litawamaliza kabiza nguvu kazi yao... wakenya karibuni bongo mtujengee uchumi..!! Na Kibaki hana ujanja.. akigoma tu kuidhinisha, muungano wa machungwa na malimao CHALI..... Mungiki wanaamshwa... full kucharazana majambia!!! poleni!!
     
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    God
     
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    Good Lord.. have Mercy... MPs,really, are blaspheming...!! Wizi wizi wizi mtupu...!!!
     
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    Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/africa/10476388.stm
    MPs in Kenya have voted to boost their own salaries, making them among the world's best paid politicians. Under the new legislation, the Kenyan prime minister will take home over a third more than his British counterpart. He will also earn almost 10% more than the US president. The vote has provoked anger from the general public and the media, correspondents say.
    The parliamentarians have voted to be paid a basic $44,000 (£29,000) a year.
    But extra allowances can bring the salary up to up to $126,000 (£84,000) after tax - a rise of 18%. The allowances include $370 (£250) a day for turning up in parliament. If approved, the legislation would take effect during the next parliament, expected in two years' time.
    BBC East Africa correspondent Peter Greste said the MPs' debate on their salaries was extraordinarily quick. The Daily Nation newspaper reported that one MP described the pay-increase as "a move towards restoring honour to the profession of politics".
    One politician was quoted as saying that the amount of money paid to MPs could not compensate "for the heavy responsibility they shoulder in the economic, political and social development of the country".
    It also quoted an assistant minister as trying to dismiss criticism of the vote by saying:
    "If you feel MPs are being paid heftily, join Parliament. [And if you are in Parliament] if you feel you have enough, give a chance to your colleagues."
    An editorial in the Standard newspaper argued that Kenyans might be able to stomach the huge numbers involved if it meant the selfless delivery of services and an end to corruption
     
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    Now what has this got to do with the killings of albinos in Tanzania?
     
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    Alafu utasikia kina Masha....wenzetu Kenya wana askari wenye shabaha sana kuliko sisi......watu wanona Kenya kama mbinguni!!!
    Sijui ni yale makoti wanayopenda kuvaa yanawazuzua!??
     
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    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    ^^^^^^^^ this had me dead.. hahahahahahahahha
     
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    This is not new in Africa; their Tanzanian counterparts have been doing the same all over the years and nobody has ever complained!! It is absurd that someone asks to be paid an extra allowance for doing the job he/she is employed for!!
     
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    Who Cares? JF-Expert Member

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    MNHHHHHHH...sioni kama kuna tatizo katika hilo la kulipwa as long as they r really working to that value....Inaelekea waheshimiwa wetu ipo siku watakaa kikao cha budget na kujilipa pesa yooooote ya bajeti kisha nchi IKAFILIA MBALI
     
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    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    Wabongo bana, uswahili utawaisha lini, kazi kuangalia ya majirani na nyumba yko yaanguka, hamuachi kunishangaza nyie waswahili.
     
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    Hiki kijamaa kiko overly sensitive.

    Ukiangalia posts utaona underlying theme ni nchi masikini zinavyojishaua ku overspend, Kenya imekuja kama mfano tu. Tatizo hili liko nchi nyingi za Afrika, lakini wewe usiyeweza kukubali ukweli unaona kama unatukanwa personally kwa sababu wewe ni Mkenya tu.

    Ndiyo maana hatuendelei, badala ya kuangalia mambo kwa reason, tunaleta mi emotion and sentimentalities nyiiingi bila mpango.
     
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