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Ushauri kwa CHADEMA -- Ondoeni kansa (Zitto Kabwe) ili chama kisonge mbele

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Mwafrika, Dec 28, 2010.

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    Mwafrika JF-Expert Member

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    Ohh I know I know I know I know......

    Wakati wa uchaguzi nilianzisha thread ya kusifia kazi ya Zitto. Yeah, ni kweli Zitto ni mwanasiasa machachari (kwa mujibu wa vyombo vya habari Tanzania), and yes, Zitto amekuwa mwanachadema tokea enzi za Kaburu (mwanachadema aliyehamia ccm).

    Pamoja na kujua haya yote, nimefikia hitimisho kuwa Zitto ni kikwazo kikubwa sana cha maendeleo ya CHADEMA. Mara kwa mara, Zitto amekuwa anaua momentum za mageuzi Tanzania. Fuatilia yafuatayo kwa makini:

    1. Zitto aliua momentum ya wapinga ufisadi nchini pale alipokubali kuingia kwenye tume ya raisi ya madini. Wabunge wengi (wakiwemo wa ccm) walitaka iundwe tume huru ya bunge ili ifanye kazi yake kwa uhuru bila mwingiliano wa serikali lakini Kikwete na mafisadi wenzake wakataka iundwe tume ya raisi (isiyokuwa na nguvu yoyote kisheria). Matokeo yake wote tunayajua.

    --- issue ya buzwagi ilikufa
    --- Andy Chande alijua mapendekezo ya tume ya madini kabla ya wabunge
    --- Zitto alipata pesa za kutosha kununua hammer (maneno ya zitto haya)
    --- Na kadhalika

    2. Dowans ni beast linalokula mapesa ya watanzania. Wanachadema na watanzania wengi walianzisha movement ya kuvunja mkataba wa kipuuzi wa Dowans (trust me, this can be done). Wakati mambo yakiwa kwenye high time, Zitto kama kawaida yake, akaua momentum kwa press release yake kuwa Dowans lazima ilipwe pesa na serikali. Ingawa baadaye alikuja na bonge la u-turn kuwa anataka Dowans itaifishwe (what a schit), but wote tunajua kuwa ile momentum against dowans ilikufa right there.

    --- Leo hii, Dowans iko mbioni kulipwa mabilioni ya pesa

    3. Wakati kampeni za uchaguzi 2010 zimeanza, Zitto kama kawaida yake, alitaka kuleta vurugu la mwaka CHADEMA, pale alipotangaza kuwa anampango wa kugombea uraisi wa Tanzania 2015. Yeye mwenyewe amekiri kwa katiba ya sasa haimruhusu kugombea uraisi mwaka 2015 maana atakuwa hajafikisha miaka 40. Sasa kama sio ubinafsi, Why did he do that?

    4. Baada ya NEC kuchakachua matokea ya uchaguzi nchi nzima na kumtangaza Kikwete kuwa mshindi wa uchaguzi. CHADEMA walifanya kitu kilichopelekea vyombo vya habari vingi duniani kutangaza mambo yanayoendelea kwenye bunge la Tanzania - kutoka nje wakati Kikwete akihutubia. Hii iliwapa CHADEMA mtaji mkubwa sana kisiasa. Nasikia hadi leo hii Kikwete amechanganyikiwa na haamini kilichotokea. Wakati hiyo movement ikiwa kwenye high motion, Zitto alifanya kile anachojua best - kuua momentum.

    5. Zitto anadhani kuwa chama ni mtu mmoja. Yeye (na Omar Ilyasi) anajihesabu kama the only politician mwenye maamuzi bora ndani ya chadema. Kama ijulikanavyo, Chama ni mkusanyiko wa watu. Anachofanya Zitto, ni kuvunja mkusanyiko huo ili kumpa nafasi yeye binafsi kupata kile anachotaka.

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    Ushauri kwa chadema --- msiogope wapambe watasema nini, mfukuzeni Zitto sasa hivi ili mpate muda wa kutosha wa kujenga chama kabla ya uchaguzi mkuu ujao.

    Asanteni.
     
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    Malaria Sugu JF-Expert Member

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    nadhani imefika wakati wamfukuze tu, hata arfi itabidi nae aandaliwe zengwe aondoke ili chama kiwe salama, vyenginevyo bado kirusi kitakiandama
     
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    Arfi afukuzwe kwa kosa lipi?
     
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    sisi chadema hatupendi kuona akivaa kama mrema, wakati wengine wanapiga suti
     
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    Bwa ha ha ha, kwa hiyo hata Mnyika afukuzwe (kwa vile havai suti)?
     
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    Kipengele kipi cha katiba ya chadema amekivunja kwa kufanya hayo yote uliyoyasema?

    Afukuzwe uongozi au uanachama? fafanua?
     
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    Aondoke tu, hata Masoud Kipanya alishachora katoni inayoonyesha kuwa kichwa cha Zitto ni kikubwa mno na anaingia ndani ya Chadema na uchafu wake wa kifisadi
     
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    + anavaa kibagarashia
     
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    uongozi
     
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    upupu
     
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    kama kile cha waarabu? au kile cha Mkono (mbunge wa musoma vijijini)?
     
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    sio muarabu ndio maana niaksema hafai kuwemo katika chama cha waafrica
     
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    Kwa kuvunja kipengele gani cha katiba ya chadema?

    Je ameshapelekwa kwenye vikao rasmi ya chama kuulizwa na kujitetea?

    Je vikao hivyo vilimpa onyo lolote? oral or written?
     
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    Kiongozi anaweza kuondolewa uongozi kama ni kiongozi dhaifu (au msaliti). Vyote hivi Zitto amevionesha. And yes, ameshauriwa na kuonywa so many times. Kikao cha mwisho, Zitto alipoombwa atoke nje ya kikao, alifyonza na kutoka kwa dharau za kumwaga.
     
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    Naomba niambie ni article no ngapi ya katiba ya chadema?

    Alishaandikiwa barua official (vikao rasmi vya chama) kuelezwa jambo hilo?
     
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    Common Sense 101

    Ndio
     
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    Wewe si ndio bosi mkuu inavyoonekana..si mfukuze tu..ushauri unaomba wa nini?
     
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    Sikumbuki kama nimeomba ushauri hapa. Umeona kokote nikiomba ushauri?
     
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    Umeshindwa kupambana naye kwenye vikao (akakufyonza) ukaamua kutafuta jukwaa la bure ha!

    Zitto hana kosa kikatiba (cdm) wala ki-uongozi

    Acha majungu mkuu..nenda kwenye vikao rasmi kajenga hoja acha kulalama..
     
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    Zitto ana bahati tu kuwa mimi siingii kwenye vikao vya CHADEMA. Kama hii ingekuwa kesi, angekuwa kishaondoka zamani sana.
     
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