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US Naval Bases In Africa (AFRICOM): Sababu, Pingamizi, Faida na Hasara

Discussion in 'Jamii Intelligence' started by BAK, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. BAK

    BAK JF-Expert Member

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    Africa united in rejecting US request for military HQ

    · Official admits 'a big image problem down there'
    · Modified plan calls for a continent-wide network

    Simon Tisdall in Washington
    Tuesday June 26, 2007
    The Guardian

    The Pentagon's plan to create a US military command based in Africa have hit a wall of hostility from governments in the region reluctant to associate themselves with the Bush administration's "war on terror" and fearful of American intervention.

    A US delegation led by Ryan Henry, principal deputy under-secretary of defence for policy, returned to Washington last week with little to show for consultations with defence and foreign ministry officials in Algeria, Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Djibouti and with the African Union (AU). An earlier round of consultations with sub-Saharan countries on providing secure facilities and local back-up for the new command, to be known as Africom and due to be operational by September next year, was similarly inconclusive.

    The Libyan and Algerian governments reportedly told Mr Henry that they would play no part in hosting Africom. Despite recently improved relations with the US, both said they would urge their neighbours not to do so, either. Even Morocco, considered Washington's closest north African ally, indicated it did not welcome a permanent military presence on its soil.

    "We've got a big image problem down there," a state department official admitted. "Public opinion is really against getting into bed with the US. They just don't trust the US."

    Another African worry was that any US facilities could become targets for terrorists, the official said. Economic incentives, including the prospect of hundreds of local jobs, had not proved persuasive.

    Mr Henry said African officials had agreed that counter-terrorism was "a top security concern". But he added: "The countries were committed to the AU as the continent's common security structure. They advised us that Africom should be established in harmony with the AU."

    The US talks with Libya appear to have been frank. "In the area of security, they are looking for Africa-only solutions," Mr Henry said. "I wouldn't say we see eye to eye on every issue."

    Mr Henry emphasised that the US was not seeking to supplant or supersede African leadership but rather to reinforce it. He said the creation of Africom would not entail the permanent stationing of large numbers of US troops in Africa, as in Asia and Europe. Its overall aim was to integrate and expand US security, diplomatic, developmental and humanitarian assistance in collaboration with regional allies, not increased interventionism, he said.

    Unveiling the plan in February, President George Bush said Africom would advance "our common goals of peace, security, development, health, education, democracy and economic growth". But African opposition appears to have modified Washington's approach. Mr Henry said the latest plans envisaged "a distributed command" that would be "networked" across several countries.
     
  2. Bila shaka hawa jamaa walipotembelea Bongo kwa JK ku-promote AFRICOM walipewa Green-lights!
     
  3. Dua

    Dua JF-Expert Member

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    No American soldiers within SADC

    South Africa Defence minister Mosiuoa Lekota has told the ‘Business Day’ that no more US soldiers are welcome in Africa. The US Strategic command in Africa (Africom) is dead and buried.

    The commander of Africom’s Gen. Kip Ward effortlessly tried to meet the defence minister last month. The minister further elaborated the position undertaken by SADCC members that no any member will accommodate the Americans.

    GOOD WORK SADC.
     
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    Insider New Member

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    Is this supposed to be good news?? If so can you, politely, tell me why??
     
  5. Dua

    Dua JF-Expert Member

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    Sorry forgotten to put the link

    More U.S. Soldiers Not Welcome in Africa, Says Lekota
    Business Day (Johannesburg)

    NEWS
    30 August 2007
    Posted to the web 30 August 2007



    Soma Hapa
     
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    MzalendoHalisi JF-Expert Member

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    This is a good SADC stand,
    Waamerika wamekuwa hapo Jibuti na Kenya lakini hata wameshindwa kuzuia majangili Wasomali wanaoteka Meli for ransom!

    AFRICA WE UNITE OR ELSE WE PERISH!
     
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    Mkakati Member

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    Good point...Americans protect their interests and if you have nothing of value to them or then sauri yako!
    They have shown this over and over and even publically state it.

    Makakati
    www.kforumonline.com
     
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    DAR si LAMU JF-Expert Member

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    ..wakija kaa kwa region hii,hali itachafuka!

    ..watatuletea terrorists!
     
  9. Shy

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    Tell the senate armed services committee to reject military command on the continent of africa

    confirmation hearings for general william ward

    on the morning of thursday, september 27 2007 the u.s. Senate committee on armed services will convene confirmation hearings that will include the nomination of army general william e. Ward as chief officer of the united states africa command (africom).

    Transafrica forum, the nation’s premier african-american foreign policy organization, states its opposition to the formation of africom, and thus the confirmation of general ward. Africom is the bush administration’s latest effort to militarize foreign policy and aid. Africom is the proposed permanent command structure that will be located on the african continent to launch global military campaigns and “oversee” the distribution of aid.

    Promoting human rights, fair trade, and self-determination of african peoples must be the cornerstone of u.s. Policy towards africa, not the building of yet another military authority. Africom will prove detrimental to african sovereignty and the development african solutions for african problems. Africom is an example of military expansion in the name of the war on terrorism, when it is in fact designed to secure africa’s resources and ensure american interests on the continent. Africom represents a policy of u.s. Military-driven expansionism that will only enhance political instability, conflict, and the deterioration of state security.

    African leaders are opposed to a u.s. Permanent command on african soil. This month the southern african development community (sadc) defense ministers determined that no member states would host africom. Other countries including ghana and nigeria have made statements against africom. Many countries have stated their preference to develop their own institutions for security, political, and economic independence.


    Transafrica forum calls on the members of the u.s. Senate committee on armed services to not only reject general ward as commander of africom but reject the notion of africom altogether. We urge you to call the members of the senate armed services committee and tell them to reject the nomination of general ward and to oppose africom.


    Senator carl levin (d-mi)
    chair, armed services committee
    (202)224-6221

    senator john mccain (r-az)
    ranking member, armed services committee
    (202)224-2235

    senator edward m. Kennedy (d-ma)
    (202)224-4543

    senator robert c. Byrd (d-wv)
    (202)224-3954

    senator joseph lieberman (i-ct)
    (202)224-4041

    senator jack reed (d-ri)
    (202)224-4642

    senator daniel akaka (d-hi)
    (202)224-6361

    senator bill nelson (d-fl)
    (202)224-5274

    senator ben nelson (d-ne)
    (202)224-6551

    senator evan bayh (d-in)
    (202)224-5623

    senator hillary rodham clinton (d-ny)
    (202)224-4451

    senator mark pryor (d-ar)
    (202)224-2353

    senator jim webb (d-va)
    (202)224-4024

    senator claire mccaskill (d-mo)
    (202)224-6154

    senator john warner (r-va)
    (202)224-2023

    senator james inhofe (r-ok)
    (202)224-4721

    senator jeff sessions (r-al)
    (202)224-4124

    senator susan collins (r-me)
    (202)224-2523

    senator saxby chambliss (r-ga)
    (202)224-3521

    senator lindsey graham (r-sc)
    (202)224-5972

    senator elizabeth dole (r-nc)
    (202)224-6342

    senator john cornyn (r-tx)
    (202)224-2934

    senator john thune (r-sd)
    (202)224-2321

    senator mel martinez (r-fl)
    (202)224-3041

    senator bob corker (r-tn)
    (202)224-3344
     
  10. Dua

    Dua JF-Expert Member

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    Shy

    Unataka JF members wafanye hiyo kazi ya kupiga simu? Sasa leo ni tarehe ngapi? na hiyo conf. huenda imekwisha isha, acha kuleta kamba na utumbo mzee?
     
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    DAR si LAMU JF-Expert Member

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    ..africom itaanzishwa tu,kwakuwa china inanyemelea afrika kwa nguvu!

    ..sasa hao jamaa nao lazima wakae mkao wa kula!

    ..hiyo ni kwa ajili ya kulinda maslahi yao na kisingizio ni ugaidi!
     
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    Kama ningekuwa JK ningeileta AFRICOM TAnzania. KWa sababu hawa jamaa they have millions of ways to come to Africa. Balozi zao karibu zote barani Afrika zinaelements za ujeshi na CIA. Uzuri ni kuwa wakija tutaongeza pato la taifa, kwa sababu hawatakaa bure, kuna mengi tu yatakuja na uwepo wake. Bila shaka na mabaya yake yatakuwepo
     
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    U.S. Embassy in Tanzania
    Press Release

    January 25, 2008
    http://tanzania.usembassy.gov/pr_01252008.html
     
  14. Steve Dii

    Steve Dii JF-Expert Member

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    Si tumemkatalia kuweka kambi ya kijeshi hapa kwetu na tukafunga paka kengere kwa wana SADC wote...

    kumbe bado ana kimbelembele tu, nini tena aje kufanya hapa?!

    Hata hivyo naamini kutakuwepo na ki hadhi fulani hivi kwa Tanzania yetu kwa marais wawili mfululizo wa 'taifa kubwa' kututembelea kabla ya ngwe ya madaraka yao kumalizika. Na tule tubaraka twa 'kimatumizi' wakiwa hapa Bongo kutokana na msafara wake ukiachilia mbali kuwa, hii pia itakuwa ishara kubwa kimaelewano katika nyanja za kidiplomasia.

    SteveD.
     
  15. Mpaka Kieleweke

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    Aje na Balali la sivyo hatutampokea kama anawaficha wahalifu huko kwake na kuanzia sasa tuanzishe kampeni ya kumwambia kuwa kuja kwake hapa patakuwa salama kama Balali atakuwa amekuja naye .

    Mpango wa kuchukua mafuta yetu na hata kushughulikia issue ya TICS kwani kampuni la kimarekani lina hisa nyingi sana humoo........
     
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    Kasana JF-Expert Member

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    Always friendship flow in both directions. they give us cash, and we give them natural resources!
     
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    Huyu Kichaka aje tu aone uozo wa nchi hii na ufisadi iliokithiri,nadhani maandamano yetu tuyaamishie tarehe ambayo George Kichaka atakuwa Bongo.ila si unajua Bush ana hisa katika kampuni ya Barrick?
    nadhani anakuja kuangali uwekezeaji wao hapa Tanzania na jinsi waatakavyoanza kuwekeza ktika nuclear,nasikia kuna madini ya uranium hapa Bongo.
     
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    Mitomingi Senior Member

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    You are all missing the point hapa .Hii habari in the next few days it will be used to cover up uozo wote ambao ni kuanzia BOt hadi Bugwagi .Ngojeni wana CCM wajenge mtasikia kwamba ni utawala na JK kukubalika kimataifa na sisi tunambeza .Kaa macho mtayakumbuka maandiko haya .Mgazeti ya TZ yanatafuta namna ya kumfanya JK apumue sasa ndiyo nyuzi
     
  19. Steve Dii

    Steve Dii JF-Expert Member

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    Mitomingi,
    Kama unamaanisha kuwa ujio wa Bush utamfanya Muungwana apumue, sidhani kama itakuwa hivyo, kutokana na vidumbwendubwe vinavyotokana na msafara wa rais kama huyo wa Marekani. Mambo ni mengi ambayo mwenyeji wake inabidi ajiandae nayo, kuanzia mambo ya kiusalama hadi hotuba.

    Nafasi ya kupumua ataipata tu pale atakapo anza kushughulikia ufisadi ulio anikwa mbele yake na yeye kukaa kimya au kutoa matamko yasiyo onesha nia dhahiri ya kupambana na ufisadi. Bush akiondoka, bado wenye kupenda maendeleo na nchi yetu wataendeleza madai ya haki na mali zao, na ikiwezekana haya yote au baadhi yake basi yaendelee kufanyika hata mbele ya mgeni mtarajia wake akiwepo hapa.

    SteveD.
     
  20. Ben Saanane

    Ben Saanane Verified User

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    Hapo sasa aje George Kichaka halafu baadae aje mzee wa Iran.

    I hope hatutapiga Deki tena barara kama enzi zile za Clinton.Aibu kubwa sana halafu ilikua inasimamiwa na Ex_PM Sumaye.

    Hili taifa letu bwana!
     
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