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US army base shooting in Texas, 12 dead

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  1. Kang

    Kang JF-Expert Member

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  2. Ab-Titchaz

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    Army: 12 die in dual shootings at Fort Hood, Texas

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    Jay Root And Anne Gearan, Associated Press Writers – 1 min ago

    FORT HOOD, Texas – A soldier opened fire at a U.S. Army base in Fort Hood, Texas on Thursday, unleashing a stream of gunfire that left 12 people dead and 31 wounded. Authorities killed the gunman, and apprehended two other soldiers suspected in what appears to be the worst mass shooting at a U.S. military base.

    The shooting began around 1:30 p.m., Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said at a news conference. He said all the casualties took place at the base's Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening.

    "It's a terrible tragedy. It's stunning," Cone said.

    A law enforcement official identified the shooting suspect as Army Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan. The official said Hasan, believed to be in his late 30s, was killed after opening fire at the base. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

    The official says investigators are trying to determine if Hasan was his birth name, or if he changed his name and converted to Islam at some point in his life.

    Cone said the soldier used two handguns in the attack. It was not clear if the gunman had stopped to reload.

    A graduation ceremony for soldiers who finished college courses while deployed was going on in an auditorium at the Readiness Center at the time of the shooting, said Sgt. Rebekah Lampam, a Fort Hood spokeswoman.

    Greg Schanepp, U.S. Rep. John Carter's regional director in Texas, was representing Carter at the graduation, said John Stone, a spokesman for Carter, whose district includes the Army post.

    Schanepp was at the ceremony when a soldier who had been shot in the back came running toward him and alerted him of the shooting, Stone said. The soldier told Schanepp not to go in the direction of the shooter, he said. Stone said he believes Schanepp was in the theater.

    The base was locked down after the shootings. The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said.

    The shootings on the Texas military base stirred memories of other recent mass shootings in the United States, including 13 dead at a New YorkAlabama in March and 32 killed in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history at Virginia Tech in 2007. immigrant center in March, 10 killed during a gunman's rampage across

    Around the country, some bases stepped up security precautions, but no others were locked down.

    "The bottom line for us is that we are increasing security at our gates because the threat hasn't yet been defined, and we're reminding our Marines to be vigilant in their areas of responsibility," said Capt. Rob Dolan, public affairs officer for the Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma, Ariz.

    In Washington, President Barack Obama called the shooting "a horrific outburst of violence." He said it's a tragedy to lose a soldier overseas and even more horrifying when they come under fire at an Army base on American soil.

    "We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident," the commander in chief said. "We are going to stay on this."

    Covering 339 square miles, Fort Hood is the largest active duty armored post in the United States. Home to about 52,000 troops as of earlier this year, the sprawling base is located halfway between Austin and Waco.

    About a mile from Fort Hood's east gate, Cynthia Thomas, director of Under the Hood Cafe, a local coffee shop and nonprofit military support center, has been calling soldiers and friends on the post to make sure they're OK.
    "It's chaotic," Thomas said, as a SWAT team just drove by. "They're just saying that they're under attack they don't know what's going on. ... The phones are jammed. Everybody is calling family members and friends. Soldiers are running around with M-16s."

    Fort Hood officially opened on Sept. 18, 1942, and was named in honor of Gen. John Bell Hood. It has been continuously used for armored training and is charged with maintaining readiness for combat missions.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting
     
  3. Yegomasika

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    Na huyu major aliyefanya hizi shooting ni MD, balaa kwelikweli.
     
  4. ngoshwe

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    "Malik Nadal Hasan.........." anything to suspect upon????????? just to xcheck with brothers in Afgan, Somalia, Iraq, Saudi and Yemen .....he must be frm theeer anei.....
     
  5. Andrew Nyerere

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    Ndiyo,I see it first on JF.
    Lakini,it is so.Huyu Major Nidal Malik Hassan,alikuwa ni daktari wa magonjwa ya akili,amewaua hawa watu katika hii kambi ya Fort Hood. Watu 12 wamekufa,wengi zaidi wamejeruhiwa,2 suspects detained.
    A Fort Hood is coming up presently on CNN.
    Major Nidal is 39 or 40 years old. It happenned four hours ago,ambayo itakuwa saa tano asubuhi local time.
     
  6. Yegomasika

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    Halafu inasemekana ana asili ya Jordan, it's scary?.
     
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    hii issue inasikitisha sana.watu wanachanganyikiwa sasa hivi na hakuna sehemu yoyote mtu unaona huko safe.juzi juzi naye yule jamaa ohio kakutwa na maiti 11 nyumbani kwake.dunia sijui inaelekea wapi.
     
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    Da huyo jamaa wa Clevaland Ohio ndo kiboko, yaani maiti walishaharibika lakini jamaa bado anaishi kwenye hiyo nyumba balaa kweli kweli.
     
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    Kazi ya another slave of allah, kaazi kweikwei..
     
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    Nadal amezaliwa na kulelewa Virginia, naona hasira za kuwa deployed na wenzake kumtania kwa sababu ya asili yake vimemkasirisha.
     
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    Huyu Jamaa alishawahi kutaka kutoka Jeshini,lakini ilishindikana kwa sababu alisomeshwa na Jeshi,na sheria ya Jeshi inataka ulitumikie kwa muda fulani (nadhani ni miaka Mitano/sina uhakika na hili) kabla ya kutoka katika Utumishi wa Jeshi....alikuwa awe deployed 28/Nov kwenda Iraq.

    Kutokana na Tukio hili ni wazi wataongeza kufuatilia mienendo ya Waislamu waliopo ndani ya Jeshi la US.
     
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    Naona jamaa mzima, walisema amekufa mwanzoni. Kuna habari kuwa FBI walikuwa wanamwangalia tayari, alikuwa anawaunga mkono suicide bombers online.
     
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    Jamaa kaua watu wasio na hatia lakini kaogopa kujimaliza mwenyewe, court Marshall inamsubiri kama atapona.
     
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    Gunman kills 12, wounds 31 at Fort Hood
    Army psychiatrist identified as attacker is captured alive, general says

    NBC News and msnbc.com
    updated 10:48 p.m. ET Nov. 5, 2009
    An Army psychiatrist who opened fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 12 people and wounding 31 others, was shot but captured alive, military officials said late Thursday.

    The gunman, identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was wounded at the scene but was captured alive and was in stable condition, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps, said at a press conference late Thursday.

    Eleven of the victims died at the scene, military officials said. A 12th died later at a hospital, NBC station KCEN-TV of Waco reported. Cone said that most of those who were shot were military but two were civilians.

    Cone also said that a female officer who was thought to be the first responder shot Hasan and was herself wounded and had undergone surgery at a hospital. It was not clear if the officer was a military policewoman or a civilian officer.

    Col. Ben Danner said the suspect was shot at least four times. "I would say his death is not imminent," Cone said, adding that Hasan was in custody at a hospital.

    It initially was reported that Hasan had been killed at the scene. But Cone said at the press conference that Hasan had been in custody since the incident occurred, and there was no explanation of the earlier report.

    Poor performance evaluation
    U.S. officials said Hasan was an Army psychiatrist, NBC News reported. Defense officials said Hasan, 39, arrived at Fort Hood in July after practicing for six years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, which included a fellowship in disaster and preventive psychiatry.

    At Walter Reed, Hasan received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

    There was no official word on motive. But Hasan was scheduled to be deployed overseas on Nov. 28, officials said. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said military officials had told her that Hasan was “pretty upset” about his deployment, which she said was to be to Iraq.


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    Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan was described as ‘upset’ about his pending deployment to Iraq.
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    The Associated Press, quoting federal law enforcement officials, said Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they were still trying to confirm that he was the author.

    Medical records on file in Virginia, where Hasan was born and was registered to practice, and Maryland, where he received his medical degree at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, revealed no disciplinary actions or formal complaints.

    Two handguns used
    Cone said the gunman used two handguns. He said that military officials believed that there was a single shooter.

    Two other soldiers were taken into custody after the shooting, but Rep. John Carter, R-Texas, said they were released.

    A senior administration official told NBC News that the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.

    Military and local hospital officials said the victims were a mixture of men and women, military and civilian. At least four local SWAT officers were among those wounded, KCEN reported.

    ‘They shot me!’
    Among the wounded was Pfc. Keara Bono, 21, of Independence, Mo., who was shot in the shoulder. She called her mother, Peggy McCarty, to let her know she would be OK.

    Bono, who works with soldiers dealing with stress, arrived in Fort Hood only Wednesday from her previous posting in Topeka, Kan., NBC station KSN-TV of Wichita, Kan., reported. Her brother, Dustin, told the Kansas City Star that Bono was “mad more than anything.”

    “They shot me! And I’m still here in this country!” Dustin Bono quoted his sister as saying.

    Fort Hood hotline
    Fort Hood has set up a hotline for relatives of soldiers at the base to call for more information. The numbers, which are for family members only, are 254-288-7570 and 866-836 2751.

    Relatives can also register and search on the Red Cross’ Safe and Well site to find out more.


    Robin Geiser of Random Lake, Wis., said her 24-year-old son, who commands soldiers at Fort Hood, knew some of the victims. He had been scheduled to be in the readiness center Thursday ahead of his deployment in January, but he was spared because his day’s orders were changed and he was on the training ground, instead, Geiser said.

    “I was terrified come January,” Geiser told NBC station WTMJ-TV of Milwaukee. “I’m doubly worried now. If you can’t be safe here ...”

    Geiser said that in conversations with her son, he told her that “there’s a lot of anger in a lot of these soldiers.”

    “Who knows what it stems from?” she asked.

    Reminders of 1991 massacre
    Fort Hood, one of the largest military complexes in the world, was put on lockdown until about 7 p.m. ET, as were schools in the area. Dozens of agents of the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives responded to the post, federal officials said.

    The base is surrounded by the town of Killeen, where a man shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s restaurant in October 1991.

    “Unfortunately, this is a day we had dreaded,” said Hilary Shine, a spokeswoman for the city of Killeen. “Every time you hear of a mass casualty situation in Killeen, you think of Luby’s. ...

    “Here in City Hall, it’s panic,” Shine said. “We all have friends and family members who work or have business on Fort Hood.”


    Speaking in Washington, President Barack Obama called the shootings a “horrific outburst.”

    “It’s difficult enough when we lose these great Americans in battles overseas,” Obama said at the Interior Department. “It’s horrifying that they should come under fire at an Army base on American soil.”

    Noting the Arabic nature of the gunman’s name, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington interest group, condemned “this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible and ask that the perpetrators be punished to the full extent of the law.”

    ”No political or religious ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence,” the council said in a statement. “The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured.”

    Sourcehttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001
     
  15. Eqlypz

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    Asubirie kitanzi tu, maana huko Texas bado wananyonga.
     
  16. M

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    for soldiers this is normal and always you need to be ready either to kill or be killed, sorry for civillian deaths.
     
  17. Ab-Titchaz

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    (CNN) -- A picture began to emerge Thursday of the suspect in the Fort Hood shootings as a mental-health professional who had worked to help others in high-stress situations.

    The alleged gunman was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, military officials said. Hasan's office at the base's Darnall Army Medical Center is about a mile from where the shootings occurred.

    Though it was previously reported he was dead, officials reported late Thursday he was alive, wounded and in stable condition.

    Staff Sgt. Marc Molano, currently based at Fort Knox, Kentucky, told CNN he was treated by Hasan for post-traumatic stress disorder while at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington earlier this year.

    "Dr. Hasan provided me with nothing but the best care," Molana said. "He was a very well-mannered, polite psychiatrist, and it's just a shock to know that Dr. Hasan could have done this. It's still kind of hard to believe."

    Molano described him as "far and away one of the best psychiatrists I ever dealt with."

    A soldier who served two tours in Iraq and is awaiting medical retirement for chronic PTSD and severe mental disorders called Hasan "a soldier's soldier who cared about our mental health."

    But, he added, "Hasan hears nothing but these horror stories from soldiers who come back from Iraq and Afghanistan -- just hearing it I'm pretty sure would have a profound effect."


    Mindy B. Mechanic, an associate professor of psychology at California State University, Fullerton, said listening to horror stories can indeed have an impact, but was unlikely to have such an extreme one.

    The impact on therapists who work with traumatized individuals is known as vicarious traumatization or compassion fatigue, she said. "But they don't go out on shooting sprees," she said. "They might get depressed or have some emotional fallout from it, but to go on a shooting spree is not part of what happens to people from having to deal with trauma survivors all the time."

    Mechanic -- who did not know Hasan -- said people don't just snap. "When you start looking back, there are crumbs that suggest everything was not hunky-dory."

    According to military records, Hasan was born in Virginia, and a federal official said he was a U.S. citizen of Jordanian descent.

    Military records show Hasan receiving his appointment to the Army as a first lieutenant in June 1997 after graduating from Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, with a degree in biochemistry.

    Six years later, he graduated from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences' F. Edward Hebert School Of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland, and was first an intern, then a resident and finally a fellow at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

    Promoted to captain in 2003, he was promoted to major in May.

    In 2009, Hasan he completed a fellowship in disaster and preventive psychiatry and was assigned to Darnall in July.

    He was awarded the National Defense Service Medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and the Army Service Ribbon, but was never deployed outside the United States.

    Nader Hasan, Hasan's first cousin, issued a statement on behalf of the family:

    "We are shocked and saddened by the terrible events at Fort Hood today. We send the families of the victims our most heartfelt sympathies. We, like most of America, know very few details at this time.


    "Here is what we do know about our cousin. Nidal was an American citizen. He was born in Arlington, Virginia, and raised here in America. He attended local high schools and eventually went on to attend Virginia Tech.

    "We are filled with grief for the families of today's victims. Our family loves America. We are proud of our country, and saddened by today's tragedy. Because this situation is still unfolding, we have nothing else that we are able to share with you at this time."
     
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    Unalijua jina la kati la commander-in-chief na kwamba ni slave wa nani yeye??
    ALLAH (SW).

    Binaadamu wooote ulimwenguni ni slaves wa nani??? ... ALLAH (SW)

    Unajijua wewe mwenyewe na kwamba ni slave wa nani wewe??? ...ALLAH(SW)

    Unajua Manabii wooote wakiwemo: Ibrahim (Abraham); Daudi (David); Musa (Moses); Issa (Yesu), wengine wote na Muhammad, Amani ya Mwenyezi Mungu iwe juu yao ni SLAVES wa nani??? .... ALLAH (SW)

    Kwa taarifa yako Allah (SW) na Mitume wake hawatukanwi wala kukashifiwa. Sisi waislamu hatufanyi hivyo. Na Allah amejiharamishia yeye mwenyewe kudhulumu na amewaharamishia slaves wake kudhulumiana. Wewe unavyolibeza jina la Allah (SW), unaposema uongo kuhusu jina lake, unapowadharau au kukufuru kuhusiana na Mitume na Manabii wake, huoni kama unavuka mipaka katika dhuluma??

    Hawa wanaudhulumu waja wa kawaida (slaves wa kawaida tu wa Allah) basi kizaazaa kinawafumukia bila kutegemea ndani na mbele ya nyuso zao. Sasa wewe Si unajitafutia balaa la bure weweee???

    Unapomkashifu Allah na Mitume wake, unapopenda kusema uongo kuhusiana na dini aliyoiridhia ya uislamu, jua ya kwamba watoto wako wanakuona na kukusikia kwamba unasema uongo,... unakashifu, ...unatukana and you know what !! they are slaves of ALLAH too.
     
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    Kwani unajua wewe kwamba alishamaliza alilolikusudia??? kwa mfano idadi???

    Kaogopa !! ulijuaje weweee??? au kuogopa nini ???
    Kujimaliza mwenyewe!! kwasababu gani??? na wakati alikuwa bado anaendelea???

    Kwanini maana ya neno "hatia" wewe unaiburuza tuuuu???

    Pengine atapata second chance kwenye hiyo court Marshall unayoisema. Ama kupona kwamba wasimuhukumu kifo ni very unlikely, lakini chance ya kujitetea (kutoa yaliyo moyoni mwake) je, hatopata, atanyimwa???

    Maneno nayo hasa yakibeba uzito wa ukweli na haki na yakisemwa kwa namna zake, huwa ni msumari unaochoma na kuacha athari kubwa katika nyoyo za watu, morali ya madhalimu huborongeka kwa maana hawasimamii ukweli na haki. Wako wengine, kama umeshawahi kusikia hujirusha magorofani baada ya kupashwa ukweli kinagaubaga na mioyo yao kutokuweza kuhimili???

    Aidha vile vile maneno yenye ukweli na haki huweza kuacha "chachu" au "legacy" kutoka kizazi hadi vizazi katika kuendeleza harakati fulani. Huyajui wewe hayo??? Sasa wewe ulitaka hata nafasi hiyo aipoteze na wakati bado ana tamaa ya kuendelea???

    Au pengine alipendelea zaidi, kama ni ku-toa maisha yake, jambo ambalo very likely, kwasababu kitendo kama hicho alichokifanya kuwa ndio hatima yake anyway, basi ni wao ndio wamuuwe, sio yeye mwenyewe. Once again, Kwaniniiii???

    Pengine asipone, japo sumu wamuwekee huko hospitalini, lakini natusubiri kama hao majaji wa hiyo court Marshall wataweza ku-stomach yale atakayoyatapika.

    Imekuwa ni muda mreeefu sasa na inaonekana kwamba ndio kwanzzza asubuhi ya mambo ya aina mpyaaaa yanaanza. Yaliyo mbele yao madhalimu hawayajui. Wanapanga na Allah (SW) anapanga, na m-bora wa mipango ni Allah(SW). Ama kweli dhuluma inatia upofu.
     
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    **** Major. Nidal Malik Hasan****

    1. There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hasan, the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base. Most of all, his motive. But details of his life and mindset, emerging from official sources and personal acquaintances, are troubling.

    2. For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, Texas, in July, the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry.
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    4. While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time. Grieger said privacy laws prevented him from going into details but noted that the problems had to do with Hasan's interactions with patients. He recalled Hasan as a "mostly very quiet" person who never spoke ill of the military or his country.

    "He swore an oath of loyalty to the military," Grieger said. "I didn't hear anything contrary to those oaths."

    5. At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
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    6. They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.One of the officials said late Thursday that federal search warrants were being drawn up to authorize the seizure of Hasan's computer.
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    7. Retired Army Col. Terry Lee, who said he worked with Hasan, told Fox News that Hasan had hoped President Barack Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee said Hasan got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard to prevent his pending deployment.

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    8. Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.

    "I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said.

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    9. On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

    "I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

    10. Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said.
    "We hardly ever got to discussing politics," Khan said.

    "Mostly we were discussing religious matters, nothing too controversial, nothing like an extremist."

    11. Hasan earned his rank of major in April 2008, according to a July 2008 Army Times article.

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    12. He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. He also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg. He received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

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    13. Nader Hasan, cousin to Nidal Malik Hasan spoke to Fox News' Shepard Smith on the phone and went out of his way to stress:


    "Both his parents are American, I want to make sure everyone understands, he was a good American, and we are shocked. We just found out from the news that he was being deployed [to Iraq]. He never even told us. We've known for the last five years that that was probably his worst nightmare. He deals with stories, he would tell us how he hears horrific things, but even before, things from before that was probably affecting him psychologically"


    " he had "been making requests since sometime after September 11th" not to be deployed to Iraq, and that Hasan had been trying to leave the military"

    "He was dealing with harassment from some of his colleagues to the extent where he hired a military attorney to have the issue resolved, pay back the government to get out of the military if that was it, but he was at the end of trying everything to make everybody fair and reasonable and him get out the situation, so I'm really shocked and baffled and if anybody wants to try to suggest that it has something else to do with being afraid of wanting to go to war, that's it"

    "he joined the military right out of high school and against his parents' wishes."

    "always been Muslim" and is not a recent convert"



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