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Uhusiano wa semantik na pragmatik

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Lugha' started by Anita Baby, May 17, 2012.

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    Anita Baby JF-Expert Member

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    Msaada jaman nipen uhusiano huo.
     
  2. Fredrick Ishengoma

    Fredrick Ishengoma Verified User

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    Nielewavyo:

    Semantic inaangalia zaidi maana ya maneno na grammar kwenye sentensi bila kujali context au mazingira ya sentensi hiyo yalipotumika wakati Pragmatic yenyewe inaangalia maana ya maneno katika sentensi pamoja na mazingira ya sentensi na jinsi ilivyotumika .
    Ntatoa mfano kwenye sentensi ya kiingereza:

    Mfano: "He was so tired he could sleep for days."

    Semantically, we would need to take that sentence to mean exactly that. But, in casual conversation, the listeners and speaker might tell you that the guy was just saying he was really, really tired, and using those words to convey that meaning, instead of saying, 'he was really tired'.


    :A S-coffee:
     
  3. Omonto wa-hene

    Omonto wa-hene Senior Member

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    Ndiyo Ainta Baby! Pamoja na msaada uliopewa na Kaka yako Ishengoma, nami ninakuongezea kwa kifupi sana. Semantiki ni tawi la Isimu ya lugha linalohusika na maana. Ukiwasoma wataalam wabobezi wa eneo hili wanaanza kwa kutoa maana ya maana ambapo wanatoa maana zipatazo 23 au zilinganazo na hizo; ilhali Pragmatiki ni tawi la Isimu Jamii linalojishughulisha zaidi na matumizi ya lugha kulingana na muktadha kama alivyoonesha Ishengoma. Ingawa amenisikisha kutokupatia mfano kwa lugha ya Kiswahili yenye ukwasi wa maneno kakimbilia kutoa kimfano alichokaririshwa huko darasani na ambacho ukikitazama kindakindaki utabaini kuwa kiko 'too mechanical'!!!! Nadhani alitaka akuoneshe 'nshomile bwana'!!!!!!!
     
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    Bajabiri JF-Expert Member

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    mambo ya tataki haya sitaki hata kuyaona,,,kamuulize prof YUNUS LUBANZA
     
  5. Sungurampole

    Sungurampole JF-Expert Member

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    Naomba na mimi nijaribu kuchangia. Sijui muuliza swali alitaka tofauti ya maana au matumizi. Nakubaliana na waliochangia ila nataka nitoe angle ya matumizi.

    Mara nyingi utasikia mtu akisema hizo ni 'semantic' hapa anamaanisha kinachogombewa sii cha tofauti sana ni suala tu la kucheza na maneno au kutheorize.

    Pia utasikia watu wakisema jaribu kuwa pragmatic katika jambo hili ...
    hapa akimaanisha jaribu kutoa nafasi kwa kuzingatia manufaa halisi yanayoweza kupatikana katika hili jambo na siyo nadharia- kwa maneno mengine kuwa practical oriented katika hili

    sijui kama imesaidia wadau
     
  6. Omonto wa-hene

    Omonto wa-hene Senior Member

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    Sungura Mpole inawezekana utakuwa umesaidia kiasi fulani katika mchango wa ufafanuzi ulioutoa. Ila tu mi nimekereka namna ulivyojitahidi kuwa chotara katika mchango wako. Sina hakina kama 'uswa-kinge' ulioutumia hapa utawasaidia sana wanajamvi wenzetu ambao lugha hiyo haipandi. Ningekusifu sana kama ungeamua kubadili msimbo kabisa na uwasilishe mchango wako kwa Kiingereza kuliko ulivyoamua kuchanganya msimbo. Ninaamini wakati mwingine utachangia kwa kuwafikiria hata na wanajamvi wengine.

    Ninawasilisha!!!
     
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    kajuka JF-Expert Member

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    elimu nzuri sana.
     
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    klf Member

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    Kwa Kiswahili mbona hutumika "semantics" = umbomaana (sarufimaana)
    Pragmatics = sijui lakini "pragmatist = myakinifu, wa-
     
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