TZ economy to surpass Kenya, forecast shows. Hongera Kikwete!

Mr Mdondoaji, are really ok with your brains funtioning normally? How can you conguratulate such illusive economic assumptions under a slack economy like ours? Please be sensible. Just imagine, in some areas of TZ a kilo of sugar produced in Tz costs Tsh. 1,500 more than the same kilo imported from Zambia!!! Oh my poor TZ!

Hivi ni kitu gani nyie mnakipinga hasa hizi figures za uchumi kukua za uongo, kiwango cha uwekezaji nchini ni cha uongo? Mapato ya nchi kuongezeka ni ya uongo au mna jengine mnalolipinga? Hembu tupeni basi figures zenu nyie kuwa uchumi haukui tujifunze? Vile vile sijazungumzia income distribution nchini kwani unalolieleza kuhusu sukari na gharama ya maisha hata Kenya they face a similar problem, Uganda pia. India is the 9th LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD but 70% of the population in India are living with less than 1$ a day kama Tanzania. Mmejiuliza kwanini? Lakini India tunawasifu Tanzania mnawabeza mna wivu nyie loh!!!!
 
Hivi ni kitu gani nyie mnakipinga hasa hizi figures za uchumi kukua za uongo, kiwango cha uwekezaji nchini ni cha uongo? Mapato ya nchi kuongezeka ni ya uongo au mna jengine mnalolipinga? Hembu tupeni basi figures zenu nyie kuwa uchumi haukui tujifunze? Vile vile sijazungumzia income distribution nchini kwani unalolieleza kuhusu sukari na gharama ya maisha hata Kenya they face a similar problem, Uganda pia. India is the 9th LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD but 70% of the population in India are living with less than 1$ a day kama Tanzania. Mmejiuliza kwanini? Lakini India tunawasifu Tanzania mnawabeza mna wivu nyie loh!!!!

Ingesaidia wewe kama ungekuja na kutuelezea government home initiated programmes ambazo zimezaa matunda na sio kuja kutujengea economical zones halafu kujakutuletea wamalasia waje kuwekeza. Tunataka uje utuambie sera za serikali ambazo zipo aimed fully kuwanufaisha watanzania kwa upande mkubwa na si hadithi za shule na vyuo vilivyojengwa kupitia donors conditions. Uchumu unakuwa kwa kuwa tunagawa kila kitu hovyo hovyo lakini si kwa sera za watu kuona mabadiliko kule alipo mjomba wangu mzee Mkandawire, uko mjomba noma tukianza kusikia hata sasa jamaa mlo mmoja tu si kasheshe la vile hapo sasa tunaweza kumsifia JK. Lakini si kwa gdp figure hizo azilishi watu kaka.
 
By peter Nyanje
The Citizen Reporter
Dar es Salaam. Tanzania is set to overtake Kenya as East Africa’s biggest economy by 2030 if the current Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth rate remains the same, according to Standard Chartered Bank forecast.

Currently, at GDP value of $36 billion, Kenya is the largest economy in East Africa and it ranks as sixth in Africa, according to Razia Khan, the Standard Chartered Bank regional head of research in Africa, who also projected Kenya’s GDP growth rate at 6 per cent.

At the same time, Ms Khan shows in her presentation that Tanzania is the second largest economy in the region and ninth in the continent with its GDP measuring $23 billion. With a GDP growth rate of seven per cent, Ms Khan’s projections put Tanzania in the sixth largest economy in the continent and first in East Africa at $230 billion.

By then, Kenya would have retarded to seventh position in Africa, one position behind Tanzania, with $217 billion GDP, Ms Khan’s projections show.

While in 2011, South Africa leads as the strongest economy in the continent with its GDP at $555 billion, but come 2030, with constant GDP growth rates, Nigeria, which holds second position currently, would overtake it.
By then, Nigeria, whose current GDP is estimated at $415 billion and growth rate of 7.5 per cent would lead the continent economically with a GDP of $1,640 billion followed by South Africa with $974 billion.

In his quick reactions, the minister for Finance and Economic Affairs told The Citizen yesterday that the projections were true, noting that the economic figures in Tanzania would be much better than projected by the bank.

“In fact, our projections put Tanzania at a mid income economy between 2010 and 2025. Currently, Tanzania is the fifth fastest growing economy in the region. There is no way we are going to take all those years to 2030 to achieve what the bank projects. We are going to achieve it before that time,” said Mr Mkulo.

Asked how the government was going to ensure that the plans are implemented effectively, Mr Mkolo said in June this year the government baled the five years economic plan, which puts priorities on what should be done to spur the economic growth.

“And the plan is only at its first phase of the 15-year economic plan. We would continue to ensure that we capitalise on the economic gains to make the economy even stronger... what the bank says about Tanzania’s growth is true but tell them that our data is much better than what they project,” the minister said.

Commenting on the revelations, the shadow minister for Finance and Economic Affairs, Mr Zitto Kabwe, said it was possible for Tanzania to beat Kenya economically if the country focuses on three sectors, which are agriculture, mining and energy.

“Agriculture in Tanzania forms 26 per cent of the whole economy while almost 70 per cent of the population depends on it for a living. This makes agriculture a crucial sector for poverty reduction,” he said.

However, Mr Zitto, who is the Kigoma North MP (Chadema), said that for agriculture to act as a basis for a robust economic growth in the country, it must grow at 6 per cent annually for the economic growth of 8 per cent.
He noted that if economic growth is to be at 10 per cent, the country must ensure that agriculture grows at the rate of 8 per cent.

“All these are achievable. It requires a strong leadership and commitment. Investment into the rural economy in rural energy, rural water supply, rural roads and rural social services like education and health would spur growth and integrate the rural economy with the rest of the economy,” stressed the shadow Finance minister.

But a leading local entrepreneur, Mr Ali Mufuruki of Infotech group, warned that double digit economic growth is not going to happen simply because people wish it. “We need to work hard, very hard and most importantly, we would require a very strong leadership,” he said when responding to Mr Zitto’s comments online.

He noted that implementation of Kenya’s Vision 2030, which was already underway, shows that the country might exceed their own very ambitious expectations.

“If you go to Kenya today and see the amounts and quality of works being rolled out be it in IT (information technology) infrastructure, roads, ports, airports, industrial parks, tourism infrastructure, shopping malls, horticulture, large scale farming, commodities and securities markets, human resource, etc, you will understand that theirs is not just a story or rhetoric as is commonly the case with us. They will attain the 10 per cent GDP growth long before we up ours to 7seven,” he stated adding:

“We need to drastically up our act as a nation and we are looking up to leaders like Mr Zitto to take us to that promised land of Tanzania.”

The online comments also attracted the immediate former East Africa Community secretary general, Mr Juma Mwapachu, who noted that attaining the Standard Chartered bank’s projections need committed leadership.
He said that Tanzania needed a ‘mindset’ that can embrace the Vision 2025 and implement it.

Source: The Citizen.

Mtazamo:

Mwenye wivu na ajinyonge but huo ndio ukweli na economic figures zipo. Kwa kuongezea tu GDP per capital income according to World Bank/IMF inshallah tutakuwa tumeshawapita Kenya by 2015 (Hivyo pia hata GDP ya nchi tukawapiku Kenya by 2015). Tunakupongeza mheshimiwa rais na tunakuombea kila la kheri kanya twende na gari letu. Vile tunakuomba mheshimiwa mkuu wa kaya utatue tatizo la umeme, ajira kwa vijana na ufisadi ili tupate kupiga kasi kuwa nchi ya pato la kato. Vile vile suala la EAC hatulitaki kwa sasa kwani litaharibu kila mipango iliyowekwa na serikali na kuturudisha tulikotoka mwaka 1977 (ilipovunjika EAC kwa mara ya kwanza). Tuwe kama Britain tunaungana na wenzetu kwa vitu vyenye manufaa na sie vyengine tunawaachia wenyewe.

Hongera! Kweli bila CHADEMA kusumbua na vurugu zao uchumi wetu ungekuwa kwa 10%. Vurugu za CHADEMA zimerudisha uchumi kwa 3%, hiki ni chama hatari sana kwa maendeleo ya Tanzania.

Swali ni vipi tufanye ili tuwaengue kisiasa ili tufanikishe lengo letu la kuipiku Kenya? Chama hiki kinatafuta point kwa serikali kushindwa kiuchumi na sio chama kinachosaidia kukuza uchumi.

Uchaguzi wa 2015 tuwaengue hawa watu hatari.
 
Hongera! Kweli bila CHADEMA kusumbua na vurugu zao uchumi wetu ungekuwa kwa 10%. Vurugu za CHADEMA zimerudisha uchumi kwa 3%, hiki ni chama hatari sana kwa maendeleo ya Tanzania.

Swali ni vipi tufanye ili tuwaengue kisiasa ili tufanikishe lengo letu la kuipiku Kenya? Chama hiki kinatafuta point kwa serikali kushindwa kiuchumi na sio chama kinachosaidia kukuza uchumi.

Uchaguzi wa 2015 tuwaengue hawa watu hatari.
Nilidhani unazungumzia CCM!
 
Nani amekuambia Kenya wako constant but Tanzania uchumi wake unakuwa kwa kasi, unapanuka kwa kasi na vile vile foreign investors wanawekeza kwa wingi nchini kuliko Kenya. Kama hufahamu uliza ndugu sio kubeza tu.
Mkuu, hao unaowaita foreign investors wanakuja kwa wingi Tz zaidi ya Kenya wanasaidia nini economy ya nchi zaidi ya kusomba utajiri, sitaki kupinga huo utabiri ila nadhani utatimia tu kama kutakuwa na change of policy kwenye sekta zote ikiwa pamoja na kuangaliwa upya kwa kodi...nchi haijengwi kwa kodi za wafanyakazi pekee
 
Mdondoaji [B said:
wenye wivu na ajinyonge but huo ndio ukweli na economic figures zipo. Kwa kuongezea tu GDP per capital income according to World Bank/IMF inshallah tutakuwa tumeshawapita Kenya by 2015 (Hivyo pia hata GDP ya nchi tukawapiku Kenya by 2015). Tunakupongeza mheshimiwa rais na tunakuombea kila la kheri kanya twende na gari letu. Vile tunakuomba mheshimiwa mkuu wa kaya utatue tatizo la umeme, ajira kwa vijana na ufisadi ili tupate kupiga kasi kuwa nchi ya pato la kato. Vile vile suala la EAC hatulitaki kwa sasa kwani litaharibu kila mipango iliyowekwa na serikali na kuturudisha tulikotoka mwaka 1977 (ilipovunjika EAC kwa mara ya kwanza). Tuwe kama Britain tunaungana na wenzetu kwa vitu vyenye manufaa na sie vyengine tunawaachia wenyewe. [/B]

@Mdondoaji, Hivi unaelewa ni kwa nini wananchi wanalalamika maisha magumu lakini serikali ikisaidiwa na wewe mnahuburi kuwa GDP inakuwa?
Madini na Telecommunication ndio zinaongoza kwa kuchangia kwenye ukuaji wa GDP.Tatizo kubwa (hasa kwenye madini) serikali inaambulia tupu - Capital outflow ni kubwa sana. Pili hakuna linkage kati ya madini kwa na local economy. Unakuta wana-outsource karibu kila kitu sisi tunabakia kuuza nyanya. Kwa hiyo huu uchumi utaendelea kuwa wa kinadharia kwa watanzania weng, sadly!
 
Hongera! Kweli bila CHADEMA kusumbua na vurugu zao uchumi wetu ungekuwa kwa 10%. Vurugu za CHADEMA zimerudisha uchumi kwa 3%, hiki ni chama hatari sana kwa maendeleo ya Tanzania.

Swali ni vipi tufanye ili tuwaengue kisiasa ili tufanikishe lengo letu la kuipiku Kenya? Chama hiki kinatafuta point kwa serikali kushindwa kiuchumi na sio chama kinachosaidia kukuza uchumi.

Uchaguzi wa 2015 tuwaengue hawa watu hatari.
kila soko linaye hata kama ni mmoja so sishangai wewe kuwa hapa, nwy ni mwisho wa mwaka na kila mtu anaonyesha bidii yake ili ongezeko liwe kubwa, mwisho nashindwa kuelewa kwa nini bongo tunashindana sana na kenya wakati wao wenyewe wana matatizo kibao...kwa hiyo gdp ya TZ ikiwa juu zaidi ya kenya na bado tunapata mlo mmoja kwa siku bado utasifia magamba...kwa kweli itakuwa vigumu sana kuipiku kenya kwa kutegemea akili za watu kama wewe
 
@Mdondoaji, Hivi unaelewa ni kwa nini wananchi wanalalamika maisha magumu lakini serikali ikisaidiwa na wewe mnahuburi kuwa GDP inakuwa?
Madini na Telecommunication ndio zinaongoza kwa kuchangia kwenye ukuaji wa GDP.Tatizo kubwa (hasa kwenye madini) serikali inaambulia tupu - Capital outflow ni kubwa sana. Pili hakuna linkage kati ya madini kwa na local economy. Unakuta wana-outsource karibu kila kitu sisi tunabakia kuuza nyanya. Kwa hiyo huu uchumi utaendelea kuwa wa kinadharia kwa watanzania weng, sadly!

United Kingdom is the fifth largest economy in the World behind 1. USA, 2. China, 3.Japan, 4. Germany. Unahabari uchumi wa UK 60% unategemea sekta ya huduma kama Telecommunication, Banking, Food and Tourism?? What is wrong with that? Anyway nafahamu kuna matatizo katika uchumi unaotegemea service sector but niwaulize swali uchumi tanzania unakua au haukui nini hasa tatizo lenu katika economic performance ya JK? Tuzungumzie kwanza GDP halafu tuhamie katika structure ya GDP na matatizo yake.
 
kila soko linaye hata kama ni mmoja so sishangai wewe kuwa hapa, nwy ni mwisho wa mwaka na kila mtu anaonyesha bidii yake ili ongezeko liwe kubwa, mwisho nashindwa kuelewa kwa nini bongo tunashindana sana na kenya wakati wao wenyewe wana matatizo kibao...kwa hiyo gdp ya TZ ikiwa juu zaidi ya kenya na bado tunapata mlo mmoja kwa siku bado utasifia magamba...kwa kweli itakuwa vigumu sana kuipiku kenya kwa kutegemea akili za watu kama wewe

Kama umezaliwa jana ni vigumu kuelewa, lakini kama una umri wangu nitakushangaa kuuliza swali hilo. Fuatilia historia.

Kifupi, Kenya haikuwa miongoni mwa nchi Tano za mstari wa mbele ktk ukombozi wa Afrika. kwa hiyo waliweza kufanya biashara na S afrika na nchi nyingine wakati wote wa harakati. Kenya imekuwa sikio la Uingereza, Israel, Marekani na nchi zote za Ulaya toka uhuru mpaka leo hivyo kufaidika na mikopo mingi na kuuza bidhaa zao huko kwa muda mrefu.

Hizo ni sababu chache tu za kuzitaja ambazo kama mwana uchumi unaelewa impact yake. Rejea South na North Korea kuhusu mahusiano na uchumi.
 
Nilidhani unazungumzia CCM!

Ni CHADEMA wala sijakosea. Mnatuharibia sana nchi yetu.

Kwa watoa hoja wengine wa CHADEMA wameshaanza kuzungumzia VITA TANZANIA, mkimzingizia LOWASA Eti ndie anayetabiri vita TANZANIA.

Mnajua thamani ya vita nyie, ile ya UGANDA imetuacha chali mnataka vita nyingine.

Libya inadaiwa $480 bilioni, mnaonaje ndio taarifa nzuri hizo. Achani ujinga tuachieni nchi yetu.
 
Hatudanganyiki. Haiwezikani kwamba tunaipiku Kenya as if wao wamelala tu. Hiyo ni vice versa.

Tanzania has got the potential to be aguably one of the largest if not the largest economy in Africa.Emphasis here being potential.
potential is very much like talent if you don't develop it,it would never be fully expressed.
If we r serious about economic growth that is not all about data but actual translation in improved living conditions for the citizens,then we must take concrete steps to develope those potentials.

1.Invest in improved and quality education.
2.Power generation
3.Sustainable political system
4.Qualitative health care delivery
5.Infrastructural development.
6.Security




hivi mtoto akitembea baada ya miaka mitano utajisifu? kwa rasilimali tulizonazo kama tungepata viongozi wazuri baada ya Nyerere tulitakiwa tuwe tushafika huko wanakotabiri hao watabiri!! kwa hiyo hakuna cha kujisifu.

I would like to remind jf members that in most instances the GDP does not reflect human development, instead of using Gross Domestic Product (GDP) we should use the what David Cameron termed as General Human Wellbeing (GHW)

GDP does not measure economic strength, only the size of the economy. It is generally positively correlated to economic strength but the strength of correlation varies from country to country depending on their population growth, spread of wealth etc. There is no single neo-classical method for measuring economic strength, but there are various indicators that inform analysts of the strength of the economy.

It depends on the country in question's method of calculating consumer spending. Consumer spending is the variable in the GDP equation for which population may be factored in. The effect of wrong population figures on GDP is somewhat nuanced in developing countries where Consumer Spending will only make up a small percentage of GDP - less than 20%.

Compared with Yankee where 70% of GDP is from Consumer Spending, the effect of having wrong census figures in Tanzania is not pronounced. It only becomes pronounced when we calculate GDP per capita, where our overinflated census figures reduces our GDP per capita putting us at the bottom of any development index.
 
tutabaki kuambiwa uchumi unakua lakini hatuoni afadhali yeyote

Hawa CHADEMA wanatafsiri mbaya sana ya neno 'UCHUMI KUKUA'. Inabidi waelimishwe maana ya neno hilo duniani.

Wewe kijana hebu sikia, unajua Duniani CHINA ni ya pili kwa ukubwa wa uchumi. Wananchi wake ndio unaowaona Manzese na wametawanyika nchi nzima. Hivi unajiuliza kama uchumi kwao umepanda na wanashika nafasi ya pili kwanini wahangaike huko manzese. Hii ni kwa vile wanaelewa ni nini maana ya uchumi kupanda kwa nchi masikini. Halikathalika Urusi.

Hii ni longterm program, matokeo yake kwa mwananchi wa kawaida si sawa na kufanya biashara asubuhi na kupata mapato jioni.

Nyie CHADEMA NI WATU WA BIASHARA KWANINI MNAJIFANYA KAMA HAMUELEWI? Kazi kweli kweli vijichama vya KIUKOO.
 
Hongera! Kweli bila CHADEMA kusumbua na vurugu zao uchumi wetu ungekuwa kwa 10%. Vurugu za CHADEMA zimerudisha uchumi kwa 3%, hiki ni chama hatari sana kwa maendeleo ya Tanzania.

Swali ni vipi tufanye ili tuwaengue kisiasa ili tufanikishe lengo letu la kuipiku Kenya? Chama hiki kinatafuta point kwa serikali kushindwa kiuchumi na sio chama kinachosaidia kukuza uchumi.

Uchaguzi wa 2015 tuwaengue hawa watu hatari.

Stop being over-jubilant for nothing my dear!
 
Kuipita Kenya kiuchumi haina maana kwamba uchumi wetu ni mzuri......... Kujiringanisha na Kenya ni kujidumaza kiakili......maana ninavyoijua kenya is an ailing state..... halafu sisi tunasema eti tutaipita...... ni upupu huo..... hiyo si akili..... bali ni matope......
Binafsi ningeona labda tunakaribia nchi ya Botswana, Namibia au hata South Africa kwa kusimamia vizuri maliasili zetu...... walau ningepongeza .....

Labda niulize....... kuizidi Kenya kwa GDP kuna TIJA kiasi gani kwa mwananchi ambaye anahitaji matibabu bora, elimu bora, maji safi, barabara, pembejeo za kilimo, masoko ya mazao, ajira n.k.....
 
Mdondoaji,

..wanasema tutawapita Kenya by 2030, which is 19 yrs away!! in my opinion that is not good enough.

..vilevile mchango wa sekta za kilimo,uvuvi,ufugaji,na manufacturing, utakuwa kiasi gani ktk growth hiyo?

..growth yoyote ile ambayo haigusi sekta hizo nilizozieleza hapo juu inaweza kuwa "laana" na tishio la amani kwa nchi yetu.

..kama ni growth/neema basi ni vizuri ikaonekana across the board, na umasikini nao ni hivyo hivyo.

..hii amani unayoiona Tanzania ni kwasababu wengi wanaamini kila mmoja wetu ni masikini, that we are all in the same boat.

..sasa masikini kule vijijini wakizinduka na kuona kwamba kuna wenzao ni matajiri wa kutupwa, tena at the expense ya wao masikini, basi nchi haitatawalika wala kukalika.
 
Kwa nini tunajivunia kwa kuipita Kenya? kwani ktk rank za economic growth Kenya ni namba ngapi?
yawezekana twajisifu kumpita mgonjwa mwenzetu kunywa uji?
Ningempongeza rais kama uchumi wetu ungekuwa walau 75% ya uchumi wa Africa Kusini by 2030.
 
Suruma!
hukuelewa response yangu kwa mdonoaji!! isome tena!!
kuhusu cooked data probably you are rite! especially when it comes to Americans protected their interests [migodi na mipango ya muda wa kati kwa TZ] they will praise even democracy!!!

Kama unatumia COOCKED DATA sawa! Kiukweli we are heading down the drain kama serikali haistuki na kufanya jitihada mahsusi za kuokoa uchumi wetu unaopumulia msaada wa mashine!

Huhitaji kuwa Prof wa uchumi kuona jinsi uchumi wetu unavyofariki-bei za kila kitu zinapaa; hakuna ajira za kutosha; biashara za wananchi wa kawaida kamma mantiloe zinachukuliwa hatamu kwa serikali; hatuuzi nje bidhaa kuwiana na tunavoingiza toka nje; tunaagiza toka nje hadi toothpicks na toilet paper! Mrolongo no mrefu ila kiukweli wewe uutakaye kulinganisha VIPOFU WAWILI (wachovu Tz na Kenya) huna la maaana!
 
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