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Tujikumbushe: Dr Kamala aitetea PhD yake!

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    Minister defends his PhD

    The minister for East African Cooperation, Dr Diodorus Kamala, yesterday defended his doctorate degree in the wake of reports that a number of ministers and MPs have dubious academic qualifications.

    Dr Kamala acquired his doctorate degree from the Commonwealth Open University, which the Tanzania Commission for Universities (TCU) does not recognise.

    "It's true that I got my PhD from the Commonwealth Open University, which is recognised by the UK Naric," the minister told The Citizen by telephone.

    UK Naric is Britain's national agency which provides information and advice on�vocational, academic and professional skills and qualifications from all over the world.

    Dr Kamala's statement came just days after TCU reiterated that Tanzanians should be wary of universities abroad offering distance learning courses, saying most of them were non-existent.

    While Dr Kamala defended his academic credentials, the deputy minister for Defence and National Service, Dr Emmanuel Nchimbi, whose curriculum vitae posted on the parliament website shows that he too got his PhD from the Commonwealth Open University, declined to comment on the issue.

    Dr Nchimbi said when reached by telephone that he was not ready to comment on anything other than defence and national service matters.
    "I'm attending a soccer match. If you want to talk to me make sure it is about my ministry and not anything else," he said.

    Dr Kamala said he was "deeply disappointed" with TCU's stance, but added that he had not committed any criminal offence like forging a certificate.
    "My brother, I know that forgery is a criminal offence.

    I haven't forged certificates for my doctorate," he said. He said the system used in the United Kingdom was different from the one used in the US and even Tanzania, noting that whereas others spent most of their time in lecture rooms, "I did my PhD through coursework and research."

    He added: "You don't have to sit in a lecture room fulltime to obtain a PhD. It also depends on what field you pursue your PhD in," Dr Kamala said. He stressed that distance learning was not a new or bizarre thing, adding that he was currently undertaking another doctorate programme at Mzumbe University through distance learning.

    "I'm in my second year, and things are going on smoothly," he said.
    When asked why he had decided to join Mzumbe University for a second PhD, Dr Kamala said education had no end and that there was no need to inform the public when he enrolled.

    Dr Kamala said the university from which he obtained his first doctorate degree was genuine and "it is entirely another matter when TCU says it does not recognise it."

    Eight ministers and several MPs have reportedly acquired dubious degrees from foreign institutions that are not recognised internationally.

    They include the Commonwealth Open University where Dr Kamala and Dr Nchimbi acquired their doctorate degrees, according to their CVs on the parliament website.

    TCU has already warned Tanzanians to be on the lookout for foreign institutions offering "bogus" degrees.The TCU executive secretary, Prof Mayunga Nkunya, has advised Tanzanians seeking degrees abroad to first check with his commission on the status of universities they intend to join.
    He said that Tanzanians could also check with Tanzanian embassies in countries where such institutions claim to be based.

    After TCU listed the Commonwealth Open University as among institutions it does not recognise, Dr Kamala referred The Citizen to the UK Naric website which shows the agency has registered over 20 universities, including the Commonwealth Open University.

    The list also includes the London Reading College (UK), London School of Business (UK), London School of Law (UK), American University of London (UK), ST. Albert's College & Graduate School (USA), Daffodil International University (Bangladesh) and Corporation of Executives and Administrators (UK).

    UK Naric also recognises the World Information Distribution University (Belgium), University of Enterprise (Ghana), University of NorthWest (USA), European Continental University (USA), British American University (USA), University College of Hospitality & Care (USA), International Board of Registered Chaplains, Mental Health Therapists & Practitioners (USA) and London Executive Schools (UK).

     
  2. Kishongo

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    This is recycled rubbish aimed at achieving character assassination.
    You could post something better.
     
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    This story is OUTDATED ,it should be in a recycle bin.I think its a story of 2008.
     
  4. VUVUZELA

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    The American University of London (AUOL) is a for-profit unaccredited educational institution offering undergraduate and graduate degrees in Business, Information Technology, Law, Education & Liberal Arts, Humanities and English, solely by distance learning.[SUP][1][/SUP] It should not be confused with the American University in London, which is also unaccredited.[SUP][2][/SUP]

    The institution has no campus and does not award British qualifications. According to its website, it is incorporated in St. Kitts and Nevis. The website lists mailing addresses in Londonand Houston, Texas.[SUP][1][/SUP] Bear's Guide and the unaccredited schools lists maintained by three U.S. states indicate that the institution is associated with the Anacrusis Institute (an unaccredited institution based in Greece and the United Kingdom); Bear's Guide also links it to Trinity College of London.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP]


    The university's website[SUP][1][/SUP] states that it is accredited in the United States by agencies specializing primarily in distance learning" and by the World Association of Universities and Colleges, which is an unrecognized accreditation agency. The website also says that it "...has an agreement with a renowned agency in the USA (considered to be one of the leading professional foreign credential evaluation agencies in the country, for the issuance of Equivalency Certificates to AUOL graduates)".


    The American University of London was listed by the Higher Education Commission of Pakistan as an institution that was operating illegally in Pakistan and that would, therefore, be closed down in 2006.[SUP][6][/SUP] It also appears on lists of unaccredited colleges and universities maintained by the U.S. states of Maine[SUP][3][/SUP] and Oregon.[SUP][4][/SUP]

    The Arab News called American University of London a diploma mill.[SUP][7]

    Weekipedia[/SUP]
     
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    Nyumbani kwako kuna kalenda. Hii kitu imepitwa na wakati.
     
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    .................................the truth shall never go away!!
     
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    Well this is a disclaimer issued by NARIC few months ago. Now, lets see if it is also "aimed at achieving character assassination" or is "OUTDATED, it should be in a recycle bin" or the Minister was lying.

    Disclaimer - UK NARIC News: UK NARIC and non-accredited education providers

    It has been suggested that UK NARIC recognises a number of non-accredited institutions; this is not the case. In an article that appeared on The Citizen Newspaper website it was stated that UK NARIC recognised some non-accredited education institutions.

    UK NARIC is the UK's national agency for providing information and opinion on academic, vocational and professional qualifi cations from outside the UK. As such we are able to ascertain whether an education provider has the necessary accreditation to award recognised qualifications. We provide information to individual wishing to come to the UK to work or study and to organisations worldwide that need to understand more about different education systems throughout the world.

    UK NARIC does not list the institutions within the recognised education providers, nor does UK NARIC itself recognise these institutions:

    Commonwealth Open University
    International University (USA)
    Post Graduate Institute of Business Mgt (Sri Lanka)
    Society of Sales & Marketing (UK)
    Business Management Association (UK)
    London Churchill College (UK)
    London School of Business (UK)
    London School of Law (UK)
    American University of London (UK)
    St. Albert's College & Graduate School (USA)
    Corporation of Executives and Administrators (UK)
    World Information Distribution University (Belgium)
    University of Enterprise (Ghana)
    University of NorthWest (USA)
    European Continental University (USA)
    British American University (USA)
    University College of Hospitality & Care (USA)
    International Board of Registered Chaplains
    Mental Health Therapists & Practitioners (USA)
    London Executive Schools (UK)
     
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    kwa style yoyote ile iwe character assassination or whatever, Kihiyo ni Kihiyo. Hata kama certificates zako ni nzuri kama kichwani na perfomance yako haviendani, you are who you are.
     
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    Kwa hiyo kama imepitwa na wakati basi inakuwa right sio? Huyo waziri kwanza alidanganya The Citizen kuwa hicho chuo kinatambuka Naric Uingereza. Kama huyo Minister anadai kuwa Naric inakitambua hicho chuo anaweza kuonyesha certificate aliyopewa na Naric ikimdhibitishia kuwa wanatambua hicho chuo?

    Whether or not the news are outdated, the naked fact is that the so so-called "degree" from the so called "Commonwealth Open University" are not and will not be recognized in the United States, Canada, Europe (including United Kingdom), Africa and even Tanzania. However, if you happen to be in the Caribbean you will not have any problems with acceptance and recognition.

    Apart from that, this is a fake and horrible "university" offering "fake" degrees. The "degrees" are not worth the paper they are printed on. This "university" is truly a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. It is funny we have ministers in Tanzania who proud themselves to have studied "masters" and "P.h.D" degrees from this "university". Kama mnataka degree za uhakika, mkaumize vichwa kwenye accredited and reputable institutions na sio kwenye vyuo feki.
     
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    Naona Nchimbi na Kamala wanaonewa

    Mbona mkulo ana degree feki na hamlalamiki?
     
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    The fact kwamba Mkulo ana degree feki (if this is true) haina maana kuwa hao wengine wasisemwe. Wrong plus wrong does not make it right. Let's face it. The world hates this "university" and their fraud "degrees". It is now documented that the United States, Western Europe, Africa and even Tanzania reject this piece of crap "university". Still in Tanzania, we have even ministers who got sucked into this scam intentionally or unintentionally and they can still stand out there and defend this scam.

    BTW degree ipi ya Mkulo ni feki?
     
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    Kumbe Permanennt Head demage (PhD) ni deal eeh?

    Huyo Nchimbi alianza kujiita Dr, hata kabla Mzumbe ahwajampa hiyo Doctorate?
    Kumbe siku hizi Mzumbe wanagawa PhD?

    Hii ni kuonyesha kuwa Dr. John Pombe Magufuli ni kichwa: No one question his doctorate degree.
     
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    Ipo thread ya Mkulo lakini waheshimiwa waliomba ihamishwe kwani ilikuwa inamtia aibu sana mheshimiwa waziri
     
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    Mwaacheni kamala asimamie magest houses yake Morogoro. Bila kusahau mke wa mtu aliyemwiba pale kihonda. Sitayari sasa hivi si waziri wala mbunge, sasa mwahangaika naye wa nini? Hangaikeni sasa na akina nchimbi, nkulo, matayo, lukuvu et al.,
     
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    phd fake hata ka story ipo outdated
     
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    jamaa anaenda zake BRA-SELLLLL S
     
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    you can do that as well
     
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    Mkuu mmechukuliana mademu na yule tapeli wa elimu nini........... maana naona uko bize kweli na Mkulo... please start a thread tuchangie aisee ili roho yako ipone!!!!!:ballchain::ballchain:
     
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    Ongea mkuu. Kama rais wa nchi haoni kuna taztizo la kuteua cabinet ministers wenye phony PhD's sasa hii nchi sio ndio maana ipo ipo tu
     
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    Doesn't matter if is no longer a minister or an MP. This is a fake "university" that issues worthless degrees. The "degrees" it offers are not recognized in the United States, Western Europe and even in Africa. Even Tanzania (TCU) does not recognise the "degrees" from this "university". Don't even try to defend such a trashy establishment as Commonwealth University. Some people have had their lives ruined by this "university".
     
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