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Time 100 The Most Influential: Paul Kagame

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Rev. Kishoka, May 8, 2009.

  1. Rev. Kishoka

    Rev. Kishoka JF-Expert Member

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    Mwenzetu Kagame kapanda chati, Sultani Majinuni yuko wapi? Nahamia Rwanda na kuwa Banyamulenge!

    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1894410_1893847_1893843,00.html

     
  2. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Oh.. no!!! this is not fair.. where is our beloved President..? He should be in there after kuikoa Comoro!!
     
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    Interested Observer JF-Expert Member

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  4. Masanja

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    Tutabaki huko huko ku-whine! wakati wenzatu wanasonga mbele. Mkuu we have to build the future. Yaliyopita si ndwele...hata tukilaumu sijui ukoloni..sijui vita..name them...we are still in darkness. Perhaps tunahitaji kupigana kwanza (God forbid) ndo labda wakina Rostam wanaweza kuelewa..

    Ohh no..sisi tuna amani na umoja..Na mshikamano wa kitaifa..ambao warwanda hawana...
     
  5. Mchaga

    Mchaga JF-Expert Member

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    [.. where is our beloved President..?]

    our beloved!...mh
     
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    Belo JF-Expert Member

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    Tatizo watanzania wengi tunapiga kelele kuwa huyu jamaa aliua raia but baada ya yale mauaji jamaa kafanya mambo makubwa kuleta maendeleo kuliko hawa marais wetu kazi yao kuuza sura,KAGAME anastahili kuwepo kwenye hiyo list
     
  7. Kinyambiss

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    killing raia is a form of influence... lakini he is one thing that we dont have in Tanzania..
    SERIOUS
     
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    MzalendoHalisi JF-Expert Member

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    Unamaanisha JK sii serious??
     
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    JokaKuu Platinum Member

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    ..yaani huyu Kagame alivyokunywa damu ya mamilioni ya wa-Congo leo ni kati ya viongozi "influencial" toka Afrika?!!

    ..nimeuliza mara nyingi lakini sipewi majibu. Msumbiji waliathirika kiuchumi[kilimo,miundombinu,elimu,nguvu kazi yenye elimu] kutokana na vita kwa kiwango kikubwa kuliko Rwanda. sasa kwanini Msumbiji hawasifiwi kwa kujikwamua anasifiwa huyu muuaji-mnyonya damu Kagame?

    NB:

    ..wa-Tanzania mara nyingine wananishangaza sana jinsi wanavyofikiri.

    ..yaani hii kero ya viongozi mafisadi haitoshi, sasa tunatamani madikteta na wauaji kama Kagame.
     
  10. Kinyambiss

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    I think he is incapable of understanding the nature of the Human being and he lacks the intellect required to appreciate the uncertainty that the future holds and fails to make adequate plans to ensure that we are in a good position when the situation changes.. Because every after a few decades, things change.. and after a century, nations are enslaved, culture and identity is taken away by stronger forces, unless: You are that strong force or at least have the technology and economy to stand a chance.. There is not a day in his life that he has run that thought through his head. DO you know why? Because he is concerned with more trivial matters such as hot chicks, the next election, his new house, his next trip to Washington and Dubai and Geneva. That is the problem with most African leaders and people.. We are concerned with trivial issues..

    OK.. You tell me, for all the money that the state has, why has it not done enough to ensure a brighter future for us by being more of a Patron to science and technology..??

    What would it cost to train engineers and buy the equipment required to build an assembly plant for tractors and all related tools... To ensure that every village has at least one or two small ones.. To put more money in seed research and exploit water resources to ensure that we produce more food than anyone else in the region..? Could we really afford a 300million dollar BOT building and not afford this?

    Special schools in every region to ensure that the brightest minds in the country get the best education free and scholarships in areas of interest especially engineering, theoretical physics, agricultural technology, medicine... It takes DANIDA and WB and USAID and DFID... to even bring these ideas into our thick skulls... Rais ndio kwanza ananunua motorcade.. Fool.. MPs wanataka pay rise to 12million..lol DO you see where I'm going?

    I said this before and I repeat, the biggest problem in Tanzania is not corruption or Rostam, its our trivial way of thinking. We are simply either stupid and asleep or just asleep.. Sasa sijui tutaamka vipi.. Ha hawa upinzani nao its the same bull.. We need a new idea..no a new IDEAL
     
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    Vasco nasikia yupo tu anachonga nchi za nje!! Full talalila, Kudos Kagame!!
     
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    Hicho kiwanda chao cha simu kinatoa malighafi yake toka vita ya congo huyu sio mtu wa kumvumilia
     
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    Namsapoti kagame wa Rwanda hata kama yeye ndiye alianzisha mauaji ya rwanda kama watu wengine wavyo dai .Kama kuua wachache wazembe ili uendeleze walio wengi hiyo model ya kagame inafaa watu waige kwani tanzania wakina ombaomba wanatakiwa waondolewe au tupate mtu kama kagame kwani angalau tujifunze.
     
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    MzalendoHalisi JF-Expert Member

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    More than 50% budget Rwanda ni externally financed!
     
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    Zungu Pule JF-Expert Member

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    Hata Bernard Madoff yuko kwenye hiyo list. I mean, the list includes criminals as well.
     
  17. MwanaFalsafa1

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    The Time most influential person is not voted by a panel or by following a strict code of criteria. The person is chosen through votes which are open to anyone. So really it's not an honor but more of a popularity contest but you have to give it up to the guy, he was able to get the vote of some people thats why he won.
     
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    Nafikiri kuna njama za kumkweza huyu bwana..hivi ndiyo viongozi wengi wa Kiafrika wanavyotaka kuonekana!!! naanza kujiuliza pia kuhusu uhuru wa vyombo vya habari kule Rwanda..inaelekea vimefungwa midomo kusema neno lolote against Kagame! vilevile aache kuwabambikia wapinzani wake kesi za genocide..maana ukimpinga kagame basi moja kwa moja unaaambiwa ulishikiri kwenye genocide...yetu macho...
     
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    Koba JF-Expert Member

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    ...Kagame hakuanzisha genocide kama mnavyotaka kuamini,ila kama mnataka kuandika upya kilichotokea 1994 ni ruksa,jasusi matatizo ya Congo sio kagame na ukumbuke nchi tano na factions nyingi sana zilipigana Congo ila naona lawama hapa ni kagame tuu,na kwa taarifa yako kina kagame wasingepigana Congo leo rwanda isingekuwepo au ingekuwa somalia nyingine tuu,kagame kaokoa mamilioni ya watu ila wengine mnataka tuamini yeye ndio chanzo cha matatizo,nafikiri mlikuwa mnataka kina kagame waendelee kuwa wakimbizi milele na dikteta mobutu kuendelea kuitawala Congo...kagame ndio waliomwondoa Mobutu ila bahati mbaya wakakosea step na wapuuzi kama Kabila,jungu pigeni tuu ila wanaume wako busy wanajenga nchi yao!
     
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    Wengi wanaodai Kagame alianzisha genocide hawaijui vizuri historia ya Rwanda nani victim wa propaganda za wafaransa! kwa kifupi Kagame hakuanzisha genocide bali alifanya kinyume chake(kuzuia).
     
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