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The Uganda Vs Bashir Circus.

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Ab-Titchaz, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    Wakuu,

    hii najua ni kwa sababu ya support of the Ugandan regime towards the
    folks in southern Sudan.At the same time we are still wondering what
    killed Col. Garang?

    Uganda may act on Bashir ICC warrant


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    Sudanese President Omar Hassan al- Bashir. Uganda says it will consider arresting him if he attends an international conference at the end of the month.

    KAMPALA, Monday (Reuters)

    Uganda said on Monday it would consider acting on an International Criminal Court (ICC) warrant against Sudan's President Omar Hassan al-Bashir if he comes to Kampala for an international conference at the end of the month.

    But Bashir -- whom the ICC has indicted over crimes in Sudan's western Darfur region -- is not a "chicken-thief" to be pursued unceremoniously, added Okello Oryem, a junior foreign minister responsible for international relations.

    "So until Bashir is here, I cannot tell you if or not he will be arrested," he said at a news conference together with ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo.

    Media in the region say Bashir has been considering attending a global affairs meeting, called Smart Partnership Dialogue, along with other heads of state, at the end of July.


    Uganda is a signatory to the ICC, so a visit by the Sudanese leader would force Kampala to decide if it implements or ignores the arrest warrant, which has stirred controversy across Africa.

    Moreno-Ocampo said Uganda would be obliged to arrest the Sudanese president, and cited the case of South Africa where he said the possibility of detention stopped him attending President Jacob Zuma's inauguration in May.


    "LEGAL OBLIGATION"

    "South Africa informed Bashir that he could be invited to President Zuma's inauguration, but if he is there he could be arrested," the ICC prosecutor said.


    "It's a legal obligation not a political decision, it's a court decision and Uganda, South Africa and the 30 African (member) state parties have this legal obligation, it's clear."

    The Ugandan official, Oryem, said Kampala had an "unwavering" commitment to the ICC statute.

    DAILY NATION- Uganda to mull arrest if Sudan's Bashir comes
     
  2. Nyaralego

    Nyaralego JF-Expert Member

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    They should first arrest Kony...
     
  3. Buchanan

    Buchanan JF Diamond Member

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    Huyu jamaa, Al-Bashir, akamatwe akajibu mashtaka ya mauaji ya wana-Darfur ambapo serikali yake inawaunga mkono Janjaweed!
     
  4. MwanaFalsafa1

    MwanaFalsafa1 JF-Expert Member

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    Kamata huyo & the rest like him. Tumechoka na viongozi wa Africa wanaofanya madhambi kibao and the worst that happens to them is they get a house arrest in their big mansions and huge compounds.
     
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    Nchi changa ni changa katika kila kitu, hata concept ya "equal protection under the law" hatujaielewa bado. Waziri mzima anasema Bashir " sio mwizi wa kuku." Kana kwamba mwizi wa kuku ndio anastahili kuwa arrested bila thorough deliberation. Nilidhani mass murderer ndio angetakiwa kukamatwa haraka kuliko aliyeiba kuku.

    Museveni na Jacob Zuma wameonyesha good leadership kwa kutishia kumkamata Bashir maana nchi zao zilisaini mkataba wa ICC hiari yao wenyewe. Ila wangekuwa wana mean business wasingekuwa wanamshtua mapema.
     
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    Sudan President Omar El Bashir faces arrest if he visits Uganda

    Angelo Izama & Risdel Kasasira

    Kampala
     
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    Angelo Izama & Emmanuel Gyezaho
    Kampala

    The official Sudan News Agency [SUNA] yesterday reported that President Museveni called his Sudanese counterpart, Gen. Omar El Bashir, to apologise for comments by senior government officials that the Sudanese leader would be arrested if he visited Uganda in execution of an international arrest warrant.

    According to SUNA, Mr Museveni is said to have told Gen. Bashir that comments attributed to State Minister for Regional Cooperation Henry Oryem indicating that the Sudanese leader would be arrested, were not the position of the Uganda government. The news came in as MPs insisted that Uganda has a moral and legal obligation to arrest Gen. Bashir when he comes to Kampala for the SMART partnership conference, even though the government was non-committal on the matter and said it was “diplomatically engaging” Sudan to avoid a possible diplomatic incident.

    The latest government stand, which joins a series of conflicting positions expressed by the Ugandan government, suggested that Kampala was telling Khartoum that Gen. Bashir should not visit the country later this month to avoid embarrassment for both nations.

    The President’s Office could not confirm nor deny the reported phone call and said Mr Museveni would make a statement over the matter soon. “His statement will include all those details,” said Presidential Press Secretary Tamale Mirundi yesterday.

    However, Regional Cooperation Minister Isaac Musumba yesterday presented to Parliament a statement explaining the government’s official position over the controversy that has surrounded the invitation extended to Gen. Bashir, who is wanted by the International Criminal Court for his role in the Dafur crisis.

    While Gen. Bashir is yet to confirm his attendance for the July 26-28 meeting, debate has raged over whether Uganda should effect a warrant of arrest for the first sitting head of state to be indicted by The Hague-based court in the event he makes the international trip to Kampala.
     
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    This guy is hysterical na mkurukupukaji
     
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    Duh... Alama kubwa sana ya mshangao.

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    at him before he opens his mouth.
     
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    Huyu waziri atakuwa ni mshakaji wake Kony...
     
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    Ameshatangaza kuwa hatahudhuria mkutano huo wa Kampala.
    Kumbe na yeye pamoja na kujitutumua ni mwoga kama nini. Sasa haya ndiyo maisha ambayo si mema. Kuishi ukikimbia huku na kule ukiogopa kukamatwa wakati wewe ni head of state.
    Iko siku moja atawekwa mikononi mwaw hawa jamaa maana wakinuia huwa hawashindwi. Ndege mjanja unaswa katika tundu analoamini ni salama.
     
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    kwa maoni yangu museven amtafute kony first ndo amkamate bashir, aaah yupo sudan nawao uganda so what? kony first
     
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    AU wamekubaliana hawatomkamata Bashir kumpeleka ICC, na M7 pia alikubali kwasababu yeye mwenyewe ataelekea hukohuko, sasa kulikoni waganda wakati wamekubaliana na waafrika wenzao wamkamate Bashir?


    Waganda wako kigeugeu wanabidi waangaliwe sana, Kama mnakumbuka kikao cha WTO, waafrika waliungana kulaumu Developed countries kuhusiana na agricultural subsdies, waganda baadae wakageuka na kuwasakama emerging market countries kama brasil, India, nk. Hii ilitokea baada ya waganda inasemekana walikatiwa kitu kidogo. tokea hapo nchi nyingi zimeanza kuwadharau waganda

    Jamaa nivigeugeu sana, wanaweza kukusaliti kwa kitu kidogo, wanaofuatilia mambo ya afrika na uganda wanayomifano mingi kama hii. East African wengine wamesha mshtukia, stay tune mtajionea msio amini.
     
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    Charles Mwanguhya Mpagi
    Kampala

    President Museveni yesterday said the fighting groups in Sudan’s Darfur region can meet in Kampala and make peace. Launching the African SMART Partnership Peace Hub at Speke Resort Hotel Munyonyo, Mr Museveni also warned the International Criminal Court (ICC) against frustrating efforts to bring peace to the troubled area.

    The Peace Hub, formed at the SMART Partnership Dialogue that ends today, according to Mr Museveni will provide an opportunity to anyone to discuss peace.

    “Even if they don’t agree with us, even if we are not of the same ideological thinking we shall allow them to meet here and negotiate at the peace hub,” the President said. “Like this situation in Darfur, we shall invite them to come and negotiate and I hope the ICC does not come and tell us to arrest anyone.”

    The comments were Mr Museveni’s first after a near diplomatic crisis two weeks ago when the government sent conflicting messages about how it would act had Sudanese President Omar Bashir decided to honour an invitation to attend the dialogue.
    President Bashir stayed away from the conference after the ICC Chief Prosecutor, Mr Louis Moreno Ocampo, said Uganda had an obligation to execute the arrest warrants.

    While the Minister for Foreign Affairs Sam Kutesa had said Bashir would not be arrested, his junior, Okello Oryem said the onus was on the Inspector General of Police to execute the warrants.

    At Munyonyo yesterday, Museveni, accompanied by colleagues Jakaya Kikwete (Tanzania), Rupia Banda (Zambia), King Mswati (Swaziland), Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe) and former President Sir Ketumile Masire (Botswana), waved symbolic white spears as they launched the peace hub noting that peace was a key ingredient to realisation of national visions.

    Contributing to a debate on “Transformation: National Visions under threat”, Mr Mugabe lashed out at western powers for refusing to lift sanctions against his country yet the coalition government was working well. Mr Mugabe, who was forced into a government of national unity after a disputed election, said his country has a unique a tripartite government with three key parties.

    Mugabe used the dialogue yesterday to continue his classic berating of the western powers and their effort to dictate to Africa how to manage their affairs.
     
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