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The ICC court accussed is a major land grabber from PEV's victims

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Geza Ulole, Mar 5, 2012.

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    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    Ruto to give back land to IDP

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    Photo/FILE Eldoret North MP William Ruto addresses a crowd during a rally in Bomet.
    By PAUL JUMA pjuma@ke.nationmedia.com
    Posted Monday, March 5 2012 at 15:15

    Eldoret North MP William Ruto has agreed to relinquish a 100-acre land he is accused of grabbing from a man displaced by Kenya's post-election violence.

    In an out of court agreement, Mr Ruto has offered to leave the land belonging to Mr Adrian Gilbert Muteshi by April 10.
    Mr Muteshi was displaced from the Uasin Gichu based farm in 2008.
    The Eldoret North MP said that he required two weeks to remove his properties including fences and hedges from the land in a concession filed in court on Monday.
    Relinquishing the land is part of an out-of-court settlement being negotiated by Mr Ruto and his accuser.
    The deal is yet to be fully agreed on. Mr Muteshi insists that the United Democratic Party (URP) presidential candidate must compensate him and bear the cost of the suit.
    Mr Muteshi filed the suit in 2010, two years after he fled for safety as violence rocked the Rift Valley and other parts of Kenya following a botched presidential vote.
    He says that he had been the owner of the land and farmed on it since 1989, having acquired it from a white settler.
    He told the court how he returned to the farm after the violence had subsided to find that Mr Ruto had not only taken over, but his workers had been kicked out too.
    Mr Ruto has denied grabbing the land.
    He said that it was sold to him by one Dorothy Jemutai Yator, but authorities later discovered that the title was not properly processed.
    Mr Ruto's lawyers informed Lady Justice Rose Ougo last month that the MP wanted a negotiated settlement of the dispute.
    The Judge had given them up to March 5 to negotiate.
    On Monday, the lawyers representing both parties filed the notice of concession in which Mr Ruto conceded being in possession and proprietorship of the property.
    The MP has also conceded title to ownership of the land.
    However, he stated that his concessions were not admissions of any wrong doing or culpability on his part.
    He also disclaimed any liability, damages or losses that may have been suffered by anyone as a result of transaction of the land.
    Mr Ruto also stated that he will not pay any costs, and that he reserved the right to seek claim compensation from individuals who misled him into acquiring the disputed land.
    The Judge gave him and his accuser two more weeks to try to settle the outstanding issue.
    If they fail, the issues will go to trial, the Judge said.
    Ruto to give back land to IDP*- Politics*|nation.co.ke



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    The kind of politicians in Kenya, God forbids! here HE is returning the land since he has sensed the court proceedings might derail his Presidential ambitions! It is interesting someone accused of PEV is also accused of owning a piece of land as a property he benefited/accrued out of the violence he is charged of! This is Kenyan politics we ought to know and be ready to counter wherever we decide to step in our feet and form the EA federation!
     
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    Kabaridi JF-Expert Member

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    Is it wrong to acquire and own a piece of land?!! The current chair, constitution, formation and proceedings of the east african community EAC, should give you a clue of how a fedaration will be in the event one will be formed. And according to my opinion the east african community was not formed yesterday
     
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    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    Oyeah esp. in the manner at which a thug like Ruto acquired! And now he is about to ascend to power
     
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    Kabaridi JF-Expert Member

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    Now you call Ruto a thug?! I would like you to distinguish what we are discussing, is it kenyan politicians or the possibility of how a federation can work?
     
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    The Quonquerer JF-Expert Member

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    Federation won't be there! Yes, without Tanzania! As for Ruto being a thug, yes he is! A mass murderer, and ICC knows it! We have thugs in power too, they only difference is that they have killed less in Tanzania. In Uganda, Kenya, Rwanda and Burundi, they butcher you like chickens and yet defend them them like you are doing! Funny! If u r not a Kalenjin, you must be his political ally!
     
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    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    So who do u think he is? instigated u people to fight Kikuyus then he grabbed the land of an Internal Displaced Person (IDP)! And he is vying for Presidency regardless of his indictment at the Hague! That is Kenya for u and they r expecting a neighbor to even think of forming a Federation with them!
     
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    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    when Kenya strike oil, am sure we will back peddle on this EAC thingy mpaka mshangae.. you dont know who you are messing with.. ours is a partnership of convenience.
     
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    Kabaridi JF-Expert Member

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    Now that is common sense even to a small child. Hon. Ruto has reached the end of the line in his political quest, so now what are you suppossing? and the ICC will not succeed on one the following grounds below.

    1.They do not have sufficient evidence (I am looking at it from a legal perspective and not commending anyones mistakes)
    2. Mr Ocampo has a great deal to uncover, the full-trial chamber is coming very soon, let us wait and see. In law is all about the evidence as I have told you.
     
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    Acha ndoto za mchana....nyie endeleeni kunufaika na mafuta ya SS....

    Btw, nimegundua kuna watu wanatetea maovu ya Ruto in this thread kwa sababu tu ni kabila moja...:A S-coffee:
     
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    The Quonquerer JF-Expert Member

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    You talk of Kenya as a super power, who do you think you can drag? When we beat shi.t out of you, maybe that's when you will stop that arrogance! Feed that starving kenyans in the north first. Who do you think can't strike oil, it's inches away in TZ. Gas is in abundancy! ..mad dogs just barking!
     
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    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    hahah keep dreaming u don't have even wax to light a candle put aside paraffin to light a lantern! Guess what u and Ruto share a common dream (greedy) and that's the reason why Tanzania is not interested in the Federation thing! Imagine u have the same leaders (that broke the first Community) in power today 50 years down the line! The likes of Kibaki (late Michuki and Karume) and the rest though some were not serving the top seats at the time they remained to be GOK seniors all along and therefore no new ideas! And if u look at ur leadership hierarchy, Kenya has had only two families that has been ruling the country ever since u got ur independence! If not Kenyattas then u have Odingas if not Odingas then u have Mois! Kibakis and Mois r as a result of circumstances (oyeah tribal politics to be specific) Odingas used Kibakis to stop Kenyattas from ascending to power and now Mois are using Kenyattas to stop Odingas! If u r a smart chap then u should ask urself where is ur name or be it clan standing among those dynasties!? do u have a shot on even as a council representative?
     
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    :lol: Telling it as it is since 1803!
     
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    You got me in stitches smatta! Nice one! These folks don't know of the Anza Basin, Lamu Basin, the Rift and what lies underneath. Add LAPPSET & main reason for Operation Linda Nchi and you get the real picture! :poa
     
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    bold, to loot in Somalia? annex potential oil fields? , thinking Somalians will tke it lightly? with that Somalians will be your nemesis forever and ever!
     
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