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Tanzania still does not recognise new Libyan Rulers

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    nngu007 JF-Expert Member

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    Wed, Nov 9th, 2011
    Wed, Nov 9th, 2011| Tanzania




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    Mahadhi Juma Maalim



    Tanzania
    has maintained its stance that it will not recognise the new Libyan rulers led by the National Transition Council (NTC) until it fulfils conditions set by the Africa Union (AU), the National Assembly was told here on Wednesday.

    The Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation, Mr Mahadhi Juma Maalim, saidTanzania will not recognise any regime that comes to power through unconstitutional means.

    He cited Madagascar as the example, saying after Marc Ravalomana was re-elected in 2006, his government was dissolved in March 2009, in a militarily-backed uprising led by Andry Rajoelina. He said the existing regime led by Rajoelina is still not recognized by
    Tanzania.


    He said further that Tanzania has not been convinced to recognise the Libyan government until it meets three criteria set by AU which include the formation of an inclusive transitional government, that will involve all segments and tribes in Libya.


    He also said that the transitional government should foster on reconciliation and unite all the Libyan people in an all inclusive government in line with the AU Road Map on Libya, which will culminate with holding a democratic, peaceful, free and fair elections in the North African nation.


    The Deputy Minister also added that the transitional government should ensure the existence of an independent Parliament and courts of law.


    "The above criteria does not mean for Libya only, it has always been Tanzania's stance not to recognize regimes that have failed to meet the existing international laws, rules and customs. It is the same criteria that Tanzania used not to recognize such regimes in Mauritania, Guinea (Conakry), Niger, and Madagascar," he said.


    However, he said after meeting the requirement for recognition, Tanzania now recognises regimes in Mauritania, Guinea and Niger but Madagascar has since failed to meet the criteria.


    "We cannot recognize NTC. We have always denounced similar events in other countries, any such motion will be seen as double standards. Unless we are sure of the participation of Libyans in its formation and the officials leading it, we will recognized it," he said.


    The Deputy Minister was responding to a question from Salim Hemed Khamis (Chambani-CUF), who had demanded to know criteria used to recognise or not to recognise the NTC-led government in Libya.


    The MP also queried whether the criteria used will be the same if any other nation in the world falls under the rebel regime.


    He said further that Tanzania strongly condemned last month's killing of former Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and hundreds of thousands of other Libyan people.


    He refuted suggestions that Tanzania government kept mum when NATO forces invaded Libya last February.


    "We never kept quiet … Tanzania's stance was very clear since the beginning of this war. We did not support the resolution. Khalifa Khalifa (Gando-CUF) questioned why the government did not react earlier on when NATO and NTC movement started in Libya way back in February this year.


    The MP condemned western countries, which through their equally imperial media outlets, are trying to blackmail the continent into blindly rubberstamping its ill-advised military escapade in Libya.


    Mr Christopher Ole Sendeka (Simanjiro-CCM) said western countries have the guts of installing their puppets in poor African countries and this should jointly be condemned in strongest possible terms. He questioned why Africa is failing to unite to fight and condemn such elements.

    By NASONGELYA KILYINGA, Tanzania Daily News

     
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    nngu007 JF-Expert Member

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    What Did Gadhaffi gave the Magamba CCM Government?

    It looks very Suspicious... is this because of free $$$ from Gadhaffi? so we are paying him back dearly?
    He build hotels, Mosques what else he did to this government rather than killing us in 1978?

    It seems Kikwete was not in the Military during the war with UGANDA

    We lived in Bukoba and Mwanza we suffered a lot i was a kid some of our neighbors perished
     
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    wana uchungu madini waliyokuwa wanamgaia qaddafi yameyeyuka bure.

    kama vipi si wamfuate huko aliko? one bullet on your head or chest, you are guaranteed to follow Qaddafi.

    R.I.P Mumammar Qaddafi.
     
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    Hawa viongozi wetu wanaugua ugonjwa wa ajabu. Eti Tanzania will not recognise any regime that comes to power through unconstitutional means.

    Huyu Naibu Waziri aliyesema hivyo anatambua kuwa Ghadafi aliingia madarakani kwa njia ya mapinduzi? Na kwa miaka yote 42 aliyokuwa madarakani hakuwahi kuitisha uchaguzi? Hakuna siku yoyote wananchi wa Libya walienda kwenye sanduku la kura na kumchagua Ghadafi wakati wa utawala wake!Hakuna! Sasa kama walimtambua Ghadafi kwa nini wasiwatambue hawa NTC?
     
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    Tanzania is insignificant to Libya, ofcourse Libya has nothing to lose or gain by being recognized to Tanzania.
     
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    nngu007 JF-Expert Member

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    Kagame -- Rwanda

    Museveni -- Uganda

    They did come to power through unconstitutional ways... we did recognize them... what's wrong with Libya? or we were are after their Dollars?
     
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    Zawadi Ngoda JF-Expert Member

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    Well done! Nyerere is back.
     
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    Zawadi Ngoda JF-Expert Member

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    Kalale kaka, naona usingizi umekuchosha.
     
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    Vipi serikali ya Misri? Vipi kuhusu Syria?
     
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    Kusapoti NTC ni sawa na kusapoti kurudi kwa sultan Zanzibar.
    Shame on Tanzania Government.
     
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    Wewe unasema kweli? Kwanini tunazisapoti serikali za Misri na Tunisia? Kwanini Sio Libya sababu ya kurudi kwa Usultani?
     
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    Noooo!!.... serikali ya libya ilikuwa kama serikali ya mapinduzi.
    Serikali ya NTC ni kama serikali ya sultani.
    Ndiyo maana Tanzania ina hesitate kuisupport.
    I don't agree with that decision, ila nadhani hiyo ndiyo itakuwa sababu, kiaina fulani. Sababu nyingine wanazotoa hazina msingi.
     
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    Who do they recognize then? Gadaff?
     
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    Sijakuelewa ulitaka kusema nini hasa hapa mkuu. Unakubali kauli ya serikali au unapinga?
     
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    Once a day dreamer always a day dreamer: yes that's what tanzania is, dreaming all the way while others are up and running.
     
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    Ngongo anaitambua serekali ya Libya tuchape kazi tuachane na warasimu uchwara.
     
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    Not only those things you get from Gaddafi but also borrowing from Africa Development Bank whose main contributor was Gaddafi
     
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    Acha ujinga hiyo ilikua pesa ya Libya,pesa za wananchi milioni 6 wa Libya siyo za Gaddafi na familia yake.
     
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    Hata mimi najiuliza ukiondoa ujenzi wa misikiti na hongo kwa baadhi ya watawala wetu Gaddafi ameisaidia nini nchi yetu? Ningetarajia majirani zetu kama Kenya na Uganda ambao aliwekeza na kwa hiyo wananchi wakapata ajira na makampuni yakalipa kodi ziwe na msimamo kama wa Tanzania. Lakini ni kinyume,kuna nini watawala wetu wanamlilia Gaddafi hivi?
     
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    Whether we recognize them or not wont change the fact that Qaddafi is gone, and never will he come back again.
     
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