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Swali halijibu swali!

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Lugha' started by Mzee Mwanakijiji, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Unapoulizwa swali, Kinachotakiwa ni jibu,
    Usingoje mara mbili, na kutafuta sababu,
    Wewe useme ukweli, au bora uwe bubu,
    Swali halijibu swali, kinachotakiwa ni jibu!!!


    Wewe toa hilo jibu, usiulize maswali,
    Usipekue vitabu, jibu huna ukubali,
    Ujibu kwa taratibu, bila kufanya ukali,
    Swali halijibu swali, kinachotakiwa ni jibu!!


    Ee ndugu habari gani, hilo ni swali rahisi,
    Jibu lake siyo geni, akilini hulikosi,
    Usiulize “ kwa nini?”, wewe si Abunuwasi,
    Swali halijibu swali, kinachotakiwa ni jibu!!


    Kaka unakwenda wapi, akuuliza jirani,
    Unajibu “kwani vipi”, siyo jibu ni uhuni,
    Ukafanya chapichapi, mguu uko njiani,
    Swali halijibu swali, kinachotakiwa ni jibu!!


    Dada unaitwa nani, swali linataka jina,
    Unauliza “kwa nini?”, hilo si jibu bayana,
    Ni ujanja wa mjini, kwepa swali kiaina,
    Swali halijibu swali, kinachotakiwa ni jibu!!


    Hoja yangu nimeweka, swali halijibu swali,
    Ujumbe uje kufika, zikue zenu kauli,
    Na uhuni kuwatoka, mnapoulizwa swali,
    Swali halijibu swali, kinachotakiwa ni jibu!!


    Na. M. M. Mwanakijiji (Sauti ya Kijiji)
     
  2. Companero

    Companero Platinum Member

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    Ati unasema nini, swali halijibu swali?
    Mwana wa Manani, alijibu kwa maswali
    Hebu rejea msahafuni, ukaisome tena Injili
    Kisha utapata imani, swali litakujibu swali!
     
  3. Ngalikihinja

    Ngalikihinja JF-Expert Member

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    Jibu linaweza kuwa na alama ya kuuliza............ so long as linatoa information ya kitu kilichoulizwa
     
  4. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    mwisho wa swali ni jibu
    swali kwa swali si jibu
    Kama hauna jawabu
    Basi utoe sababu
     
  5. Companero

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    wakumuuliza masihi, ni vema kutalikiana?
    nae akawanasihi, kwani neno halijanena?
    kwa usahihi, mmesoma alichosema Bwana!
    dhamirayo haijawahi, toka kwa Maulana!

    (Mwanakijiji rejea Mathayo 19:3-12)
     
  6. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Masihi aliwajibu
    Swali likawa jawabu
    Akajibu kwa Kitabu
    Akatetea thawabu.
     
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    Yategemea nyakati,
    Na pia mkakati,
    Ikiwa si Hisabati,
    Yote yanawezekana.

    Kujibu swali kwa swali,
    Aghalabu ni halali,
    Hata iwe kwa methali,
    Yategemea na hali.
     
  8. Kiranga

    Kiranga JF-Expert Member

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    Hata kina Hippocrates
    Na falsafa za Socrates
    Masiha Yesu Kristo
    Mpaka Fidel Castro
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Kwenye njia Kisokrati
    Au kwenye hisabati
    Toka Pluto mpaka Plato
    Kuuliza kiambato
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Jibu lililo na swali
    Lafanya kuona mbali
    Kutambua iso mbari
    Kupata mpya habari
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Hata kina Galileo
    Walokejeli machweo
    Kunywa na Papa vileo
    Noa vioo vya peo
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Hata Buddha Gautama
    Yule nabii wa zama
    Tuli kuliko Obama
    Aletufundisha karma
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Waandishi wa Kirusi
    Na kina Shakispia
    Hata wachimba vifusi
    Na wanywaji laga bia
    Wana jibu kwa maswali

    Wasomi wa falsafa
    Na sayansi za kisasa
    Akili ziso kifafa
    Mawalii wa Arafa
    Wanajibu kwa maswali

    Hata Nebukadneza
    Falme kabla mungereza
    Mwenye tanuru na fedha
    Ambazo hazijagezwa
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Aleksanda jemedari
    Wa majeshi na magari
    Kifani cha uhodari
    Usohesabu urari
    Walijibu kwa mawali

    Hata Mao wa Uchina
    Alojijengea jina
    Alowateka kwa kina
    Toka watoto na nina
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Hata Mwalimu Nyerere
    Mbeba vigelegele
    Vya vifijo na kelele
    Adui kuona gere
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Hata majinga yamini
    Bokassa, Nduli Amini
    Yaliuliza kwanini?
    Bila ya yamini dini
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Swali ni kitu johari
    Pana kuliko bahari
    Zito kuliko bohari
    Sitahi kama mahari
    Walijibu kwa maswali

    Linapoishia swali
    Jibu huanza nambari
    Jibu kugeuka hali
    Siyo jambo la hatari
    Walijibu kwa maswali
     
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    Kazi ipo...mashairi haya yanaturudishia fikara za mbali nyuma.
     
  10. Companero

    Companero Platinum Member

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    Da huu ubeti umetulia sana:

    Hata Buddha Gautama
    Yule nabii wa zama
    Tuli kuliko Obama
    Aletufundisha karma
    Walijibu kwa maswali


    Nimeukubali!
     
  11. Companero

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    Kuna mstari mwembamba, kati ya swali na jibu
    Ukitaka mjinga kumbamba, akiuliza swali simjibu
    Muulize maswali sambamba, naye itamtoka aibu
    Atakujibu kwa kukuchamba, nawe utabaki bubu
     
  12. Anyisile Obheli

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    Vibaya tumezoea, kukwepa kutokujua,
    Kusema ninachelea, kweli tunajiumbua,
    Ujinga kusogelea, kwa kijifanya twajua,
    Kama tumbo kwa chakula, hata swali lake jibu.

    Twajifanya wazoefu, wa kuingunga lugha,
    Na kuiga ya mtukufu, na adhimu yake lugha,
    Tumejivisha upofu, na kuidhofisha lugha,
    Kama tumbo kwa chakula, hata swali lake jibu.

    Eti huo ni ujanja, wa vijana kujidai,
    Wa kutanua uwanja, na pia kujikinai,
    Kwa nini wapaka wanja, he kwani unanidai,
    Kama tumbo kwa chakula, hata swali lake jibu.

    Lugha tumeiharibu, kufanya ya mitaani,
    Tumeletea ububu, na sasa iko shakani,
    Asiliye kuharibu, na radhaye ishimoni,
    Kama tumbo kwa chakula, hata swali lake jibu.

    Mwanakijiji hongera, lugha kuisimamia,
    Tumekuwa kama chura, kuruka hatua mia,
    Na kamwe hatutong’ara, lugha mbovu kwegamia,
    Kama tumbo kwa chakula, hata swali lake jibu.
     
  13. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Kujibu swali kwa swali
    Ni kupindisha kauli
    Hata msipokubali
    Utasimama ukweli.

    Tangu zama za zamani
    Ukiulizwa ni nini
    Haujibu wewe nani
    Hilo si jibu uhuni!

    Gautama yeye nani
    Swali ni gumu kwani
    Jibu siyo ni "kwanini"
    Elezea yeye nani.

    Nebukadneza ni wapi
    Unauliza wewe vipi?
    Majibu wapi na wapi
    Wapepea kama kapi.

    Warumi na Wagiriki
    Falsafa walishiriki
    Maswali yao ya haki
    Mpaka jibu kuafiki

    Hawakuuliza maswali
    Ili kukwepa ukweli
    Walitumia kauli
    Ili jibu ukubali.

    Na wale waloandika
    Elimu tuloishika
    Maswali yalopangika
    Majawabu tukafika

    Mtu akikuuliza
    Lengo wewe kumjuza
    Kwa swali wamfukuza
    Ujinga kuendeleza

    Swali likijibu swali
    Kama mwisho sikubali
    Jawabu ndiyo kauli
    Yenye kulijibu swali.

    Tujifunze kwa wakale
    Wao waliona mbele
    Wakaanzisha mashule
    Maswali yajibiwe kule
     
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    Haya mashairi yenu mazuri mazuri yana rejuvinate our lives! Tunajisikia kurudi tena utotoni maana kule wakati tunasoma, mashairi na ngonjera zilikuwa ndio kazi zetu!
     
  15. Ng'wanza Madaso

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    Nakumbuka tulivyokuwa shule mwalimu alikuwa anapenda kusema 'JIBU SWALI" na tulikuwa tunamchengua kuwa mimi najibu jibu, sijibu swali.
     
  16. Kiranga

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    One only needs to read the dialogues of Plato, or Galileo's "Dialogues on the Two Chief World Systems", The Dhammapada or some of Christ's utterances to realize that sometimes the most fulfilling answers are provided by some probing answers in the form of questions.

    Case in point, when Jesus was asked whether the Jewish people should pay taxes to Caesar or not, he did not reply with a ready made answer, rather he drove a point home by asking his audience to identify whose face was on the coin. This answer in a form of a question settled the matter decisively.

    One member pointed out earlier that it depends on the situation. I am certainly not advocating obfuscation in the form of vague questions given in place of answers as a means designed to evade questions, but I am all for the Socratic method and assuming a sort of the so called tabular rasa and arriving at the truth by probing everything, even to the point of answering a question by a question.

    Like the Swahili proverb that mostly has an opposites (e.g haraka haraka haina baraka vs ngoja ngoja huumiza matumbo) one must really know where to apply which version, where to answer a question directly and when to be a bit philosophical and answer a question with a more probing and perhaps more revealing question.
     
  17. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Kiranga.. the socratic method of which I'm fond of simply use the reasoning as a way of reaching to a certain truth but it also help form a person's mind to engage the mind the quest for the truth. So, questions used as a tool of teaching at the end leads one to find an answer. My problem in this situation is when a person evade answering a direct question by posing a question which does not help in finding the answer. The questions are not rhetorical at all but simply evasive.

    For example,

    How is the weather like in town today?

    Why do you want to know?

    If one doesn't know the temps one should admit as such. So, I totally understand when questions are used to lead to a certain answer that can become obvious by simply trying to answer the counter question.

    For example:

    What is the weather like in town today?

    I don't know. Why don't you check the weather channel?

    Now, in this instance the response though in question for is suggestive. It leads someone to try to find the answer independently.
     
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    Nami pia nimekariri
    Kujibu ki ushairi
    Mistari hii hariri
    Ladhaye kama sukari
     
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    Swali laweza kujibu swali, likitegemea na swali uliloulizwa, kama swali ni lakufikiri tu utapata jibu kwa kuulizwa na yeye aliyekuuliza,
    Hii Njia ya kuelimisha kwa Maswali Bwana yesu aliitumia sana

    Swali; ni halili kulipa Kodi kwa Kaisali
    Jibu; Hebu niambie hiyo sura ni ya nani kwenye sarafu

    Swali: Unafanya haya Mambo kwa Mamlaka ya nani
    Jibu: Nami nawauliza swali Ubatizo wa Yahana ulitoka kwa nani
     
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    Kiranga JF-Expert Member

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    I understand your frustration with evasive behavior, there is certainly a lot of that going around.

    But perhaps the reason he asks "Why do you want to know" is because he wants to give you an answer that is more tailored to your need. For example if you answer that question with more information suggesting that you are a farmer, with more interest in the rain than the wind, then he will be in a better position to provide information about rain.

    The point is, the question that answers a question, if employed in this preliminary manner, can prove to be a healthy way of gathering information to produce a better final answer.

    It's like asking a computer expert "I want to buy a computer, what is the best computer I can buy?" .The question does not have enough info to garner a satisfactory answer. A good expert will beg to answer with another question or even questions, what will you use the computer mainly for, what is your budget etc.

    Again, it all depend on the circumstances. In some instances this habit is truly aiding evasion, while in others it is a much needed tool for better calibrating the final answer.
     
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