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Somali women beaten for violating Islamic law

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  1. October

    October JF-Expert Member

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    Militants who control parts of Somalia's capital city are beating women in broad daylight for violating their radical brand of Islamic law, according to local officials and witnesses in Mogadishu.
    "Just today, Al-Shabaab dispatched men with whips to the streets around Bakara market and they are flogging any woman who is found not wearing socks," according to a female maize trader at the Mogadishu market, who spoke Thursday.

    She did not want to be named for security reasons.
    In the past two days, more than 130 people, including women who were not wearing headscarves and men chewing dried khat leaves, have been detained for violating Al-Shabaab's interpretation of sharia, or Islamic law, according to witnesses and officials.

    Hooded Al-Shabaab gunmen rounded up 50 women on Wednesday from Mogadishu's Bakara market for not wearing the veil that is required for women under some interpretations of Islamic law, according to the maize trader.

    "Most of these women were vegetable traders, so they are poor and can't afford to buy veils for 600,000 shillings [about $23 U.S.]," she said.
    She said she saw more women being detained Thursday.
    Another 80 Somali civilians were detained in the southwestern town of Luuq, near the Kenyan and Ethiopian border, "because they turned deaf ear to orders we imposed on the town," said the local Al-Shabaab commander Sheikh Hussien al-Iraqi.

    Al-Shabaab is considered a terrorist organization by the United States because of its ties to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network.
    It has been imposing stricter rules on Somali civilians living in the areas it controls.

    Earlier this month, Al-Shabaab militants whipped women for wearing bras in an area of northern Mogadishu that they control, shocking residents who have been besieged by the ongoing insurgency. The militants believe the female undergarments are a deception to men

    Source CNN


     
  2. PakaJimmy

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    Hivi umekosea kuandika/kukopi au ndo ukweli wenyewe...
    Are you serious with the red up there?

    Vinginevyo these Al-Shabaab-thing are having a hidden agenda, not just conserving Islam...!

    I go half-crazy in just a mention of this word!
     
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    Khabari ndio hiyo,
    Check the link i provided for verification of the story
     
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    lol CNN is the reliable source?
    Unachotuambia ni kuwa ukiulizwa ushahidi utatoa kipande cha habari kutoka CNN kuwa ndio ushahidi wako!
    Ushauri wangu wa bure kwako, nenda ukamuone daktari.
     
  5. October

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    Kawaida ni kubisha kila kitu kinachoelezea matendo mabaya ya waisilamu.
    Unawatetea wa nini hawa maharamia wauaji wakubwa?

    Pole sana, huu ndio ukweli wenyewe, hata ukikataa haibadilishi ukweli wenyewe.

    Nakushauri uende huko ukawashauri waache kuonea wanawake.
     
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    Kama CNN sio reliable, basi naona uwe wa kwanza kwenda huko kwa daktari.

    Zaidi ya hapo, don't you know islamic women are half a person/human persuant to koran?
    O believers, when you contract a debt one upon another for a stated term, write it down, and let a scribe write it down between you justly, and let not any scribe refuse to write it down, as God has taught him; so let him write, and let the debtor dictate, and let him fear God his Lord and not diminish anything of it.....And call in to witness two witnesses, men; or if the two be not men, then one man and two women, such witnesses as you approve of, that if one of the two errs the other will remind her; and let the witnesses not refuse, whenever they are summoned.....And fear God; God teaches you, and God has knowledge of everything. (emphasis added) (Q. 2:282)
     
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    Ama kweli hakukosea aliyewapa Watanganyika jina la Wadanganyika!
    Please explain!
    But in Jewish laws and regulations concerning menstruating women are extremely restrictive. The Old Testament considers any menstruating woman as unclean and impure.
    Moreover, her impurity "infects" others as well. Anyone or anything she touches becomes unclean for a day:
    "When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. Whoever touches her bed must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whoever touches anything she sits on must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whether it is the bed or anything she was sitting on, when anyone touches it, he will be unclean till evening" (Lev. 15:19-23).
    Due to her "contaminating" nature, a menstruating woman was sometimes "banished" in order to avoid any possibility of any contact with her. She was sent to a special house called "the house of uncleanness" for the whole period of her impurity.
    Furthermore,the Talmud considers a menstruating woman "fatal" even without any physical contact:
    "Our Rabbis taught:....if a menstruant woman passes between two (men), if it is at the beginning of her menses she will slay one of them, and if it is at the end of her menses she will cause strife between them" (bPes. 111a.)
    Moreover, the husband of a menstruous woman was forbidden to enter the synagogue if he had been made unclean by her even by the dust under her feet. A priest whose wife, daughter, or mother was menstruating could not recite priestly blessing in the synagogue.
    No wonder many Jewish women still refer to menstruation as "the curse."
    Islam does not consider a menstruating woman to possess any kind of "contagious uncleanness". She is neither "untouchable" nor "cursed." She practises her normal life with only one restriction.
    A married couple are not allowed to have sexual intercourse during the period of menstruation. Any other physical contact between them is permissible.
    A menstruating woman is exempted from some rituals such as daily prayers and fasting during her period.
     
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    Msaada wa bure kwa Sadiki:

    The Father SENT His Son to redeem us from the curse of the law. Galatians 4:4-5, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."

    Gal 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for ... dominion of the curse even though Jesus went to great lengths to redeem us from it. ... Jesus came preaching deliverance to the captives (Luke 4:18)
     
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    Afadhali wewe umepewa role rahisi (muulize "Barubaru na Hafif").
    Haya angalia kitabu chenu Talmud kinavyosema:
    Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
     
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    How are/will they?
     
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    Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
     
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