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Sitta ajiingiza BoT

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by August, Jan 30, 2008.

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    August JF-Expert Member

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    Sitta ajiingiza BoT
    ::Aitetea CCM dhidi ya ufisadi wa mabilioni
    ::Asema wahukumiwe waliokula, na si chama
    ::Aapa Bunge kutokuwa uwanja wa ‘vibomu’

    na nathaniel limu, singida

    SPIKA wa Bunge, Samuel Sitta, amesema ufisadi ndani ya Benki Kuu ya Tanzania (BoT) ni suala la mtu binafsi na kamwe lisitafsiriwe kuwa ni la Chama Cha Mapinduzi (CCM).

    Sitta ambaye ni mlezi wa CCM Mkoa wa Singida na Mjumbe wa Halmashauri Kuu (NEC), ametoa kauli hiyo wakati wa matembezi ya mshikamano na maadhimisho ya miaka 31 ya uhai wa chama hicho.

    Akihutubia wananchi katika ukumbi wa CCM mjini Singida, alisema wapo viongozi wa upinzani ambao wanalihusisha suala la ufisadi BoT na chama tawala.

    Alisema suala hilo lingekuwa sera ya CCM, isingekuwa rahisi kwa Rais Jakaya Kikwete kuchukua hatua ya haraka kwa watu wanaotuhumiwa kuhusika katika ufisadi huo.

    Kutokana na hali hiyo, alisema wananchi hawana haja ya kuwa na wasiwasi kwa kuwa serikali ya awamu ya nne itaendelea kuwachukulia hatua sitahili watu wote wanaojihusisha na vitendo hivyo, bila kujali itikadi za vyama au nyadhifa zao.

    Alisisitiza kuwa hatua hizo zitachukuliwa kulingana na taratibu, kanuni na sheria za nchi, na si kwa kufuata baadhi ya watu wanaotaka Bunge ligeuzwe kuwa sehemu ya kujibu alichoita “vi-bomu” au tuhuma zisizokuwa na miguu wala kichwa.

    Alisema baadhi ya viongozi wa upinzani hutafuta umaarufu bandia bungeni.

    Alisema lengo ni kuhakikisha kuwa kila suala linashughulikiwa kwa kutoa haki kwa kila upande, na si kuwakandamiza baadhi ya wasio na uwezo wa kwenda kujitetea bungeni.
     
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    August..tunashkuru kwa taarifa...next time ni vyema kuwapunguzia kazi Ma-Mods...tuweke link sehem husika. Pia unavyoweka news weka source kama wewe ndio source onyesha ktk statement zako...
     
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    hivi hili lizee lina maana gani linaposema tuhuma zisizo na kichwa wala miguu na bunge sio sehemu ya vibomu,hili lizee lifisadi naona limejisahau na linafikiri lenyewe ni lifalme,bila kuiondoa mijizee kama hii tutaendelea kuwa maskini maana linafikiri Bunge ni nyumba yake binafsi..jinga sana hili(sorry kwa lugha mbovu lakini linaudhi sana)
     
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    Idimi JF-Expert Member

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    Nampa pole sana Mzee Sitta, kwa kutetea sisiemu.
    Watendaji wa sirikali wakifanya mema, sisiemu juu! Wakivurunda, sisiemu haihusiki! Tumweleweje?
    Vioja kwa kwenda mbele.
     
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    Bowbow JF-Expert Member

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    Wekeni kumbukumbu hayo maneno yake iko siku atayakana kama alivyokana skendo aliyoipeleka bungeni Dr. Slaa. Time will Tell ngoja Balali azungumze
     
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    Sitta ana kichwa cha panzi . Yaani panzi anaweza kuwa anataka kuelekea Morogoro mizigo anapakia gari za Mombasa na yeye anapanda la Mtwara . Ndiyo Sitta .
     
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    Sijui kuhusu mengine aliyosema Spika, lakini kwa haya juu ninamuunga mkono kuwa si CCm yote iliyokula hela hizo.
     
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    Koba, nilikuwa nipo kwenye "not so good mood", lakini loooh, lugha uliyotumia imenifanya nimecheka saaaana. You can really work with words. Lugha uliyotumia sidhani kama ina matatizo yoyote, you have made my night!
     
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    ES un ataka kusemaje ?
    Unawezake kumtofautisha Rais JK akiwa Ziarani na Uenyekiti wake wa CCM . Chama ni ni nani na wali iba kwenye BOT wametumia nguvu gani ? Serikali iliyo madaraka ambayo imeiba ni ya Chama kipi . Unataka kusemaje hasa ? Hebu niweke sawa mzee wangu
     
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    mtambo Senior Member

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    Nyerere alikufa na CCM yake. Hawa wasanii ilibidi waunde chama chao na wakiite "Chama Cha Wasanii" tujue moja maana yanayotokea na yanayosemwa na hao wanajiita wana chama tawala mbona yanatisha?.

    Zee zima mvi mpaka kope za macho bado linaongea utumbo ambao hata mtoto wa miaka mitatu hawezi kuongea hivyo. Hao vigogo walichota mapesa yetu BOT ni kutoka chama gani?. Meremeta na Deep Green ni kampuni za nani kama si CCM?. Mizee kama hii inajiona miungu watu lakini muda wao umefika ni kuwachapa bakora za migogo mpaka warudishe mapesa yetu.
     
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    Mkuu waliooza CCM ni wengi mno! kiasi ambacho ni vigumu mno kuchagua yupi ni fisadi na yupi ni mwadilifu hata hao wachache waadilifu wamekaa kimya kabisa katika kuupigia kelele ufisadi basi na wao tunawaweka katika kundi hilo la mafisadi.
     
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    Mkuu ES,

    Madhambi ya viongozi wakuu wa chama hata siku moja hayawezi kutenganishwa na chama.

    Nitakubali akisema hawawezi kuhukumiwa wanachama lakini kama viongozi wa chama wanavuruga ni lazima chama kilaumiwe. Pia ni chama hicho hicho ambacho kinatakiwa kuwa cha kwanza kuwachukulia hatua na kujisafisha.

    Watu kama Sitta inatakiwa wafike mahali na wakubali kulipa bunge makali ili kuweza kupambana na haya maovu ambayo kila siku yanajitokeza kwenye nchi zetu.
     
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    Mkuu Bubu,

    Unajua kuwa ninaheshimu sana hoja zako maana huwa zimetulia, na ninafahamu kuwa una one important skill ya siasa yaaani unaweza kusikiliza, mimi ni mwanachama wa CCM tena hai, lakini sijaiba hela ya serikali wala ya chama,

    Ninasema kuwa ni haki ya wananchi kukasirishwa na yanayoendelea kuhusiana na viongozi wabovu wachache, kama ripoti ya BOT inavyowasema, na kama ripoti ya Dr. Slaaa inavyowataja kwa majina pia, sasa hao wachukuliwe hatua za kisheria,

    Lakini kutuita wanachama wote wa CCM, wezi au mafisadi politically na katika any civilization, ni lugha nzito sana mkuu, maana Kenya sio wa-Kikuyu wote walioiba uchaguzi mkuu!
     
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    FME,

    Pmaoja na kujitetea kote, Leo hii jambo jema lolote litaitwa la CCM hata kama limefanywa na makamba peke yake. mfano muafaka wa maalimu sefu na Mangula uliitwa wa CCm na CUF.

    Iweje baya ni la wachache na zuri ni wengi? Tuachane na maswala ya Kenya tutakimbia mada
     
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    Mkandara Verified User

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    Bowbow,
    Naungana nawe ktk hili kwani tatizo limeanza na viongozi wa CCM wenyewe wanapotangaza mazuri kuwa ni ya CCM.
    Hata hilo la Amani na utulivu hupewa wao credits na sio wananchi wote.
    Mzee Es mzee wangu samahani leo hii tunatumia msemo wa Myahudi kuwa rafiki ya adui yako siku zote ni adui yako! nje ya hapo ni kujidanganya wenyewe kama wanavyofanya waarabu.
     
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    Field Marshall ES JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu Bow Wow,

    Heshima mbele, hivi kuna muafaka ulifanikiwa kati ya CUF na CCM?

    Mkuu nimekusikia maelezo yako, lakini bado hayatoshelezi kuwaita wana-CCM wote sisi ni mafisadi, kama vile ambavyo sio wananchi wote wa bongo walioipigia kura CCM, maana kama maana yake ni hiyo mnayoisema, basi wananchi wote bongo tuliiichagua CCM na kwa hiyo wananchi wote wa Tanzania ni mafisadi, au?
     
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    Mungu awape nini wapinzani?

    Hizi ndio 'talking points' wanazotakiwa kuzikusanya na kuzifanyia kazi ipasavyo. Kazi ya wapinzani kuwaeleza wananchi wakiwa na vielelezo vilivyo wazi kama hivi inaweza kuwa rahisi sana kueleweka.

    Keep going Mr Sita, you are doing a commendable job indeed.
     
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    Watu wenye msimamo kama wako ndani ya CCM ni wachache mno! Nakuvulia kofia kwa kuweka mbele maslahi ya Tanzania kabla ya yale ya CCM lakini kundi lenu ni kama tone moja la maji katika bahari. Hao wasio mafisadi wako wapi waikomboe CCM toka mikononi mwa mafisadi, wako wapi wawakemee viongozi wanaowakumbatia na kuwalinda mafisadi. Kama ndani ya CCM kungekuwa na watu wengi wenye msimamo kama wako, basi CCM ingekuwa safi kabisa mafisadi wangeiogopa CCM. Lakini ukweli ni kwamba mafisadi wote miaka ya karibuni wamekuwa wakikimbilia CCM ili na wao wakafanishe ufisadi wao na wewe unalijua hili. Samaki mmoja akioza....:)
     
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    Mkuu ES, Heshima yako mzee. Kweli najua sio wanachama wto ni mafisadi bali mko wachache safi ila nao wako kimya kabisa.

    Mnenikumbusha kila jambo jema basi CCM wanatakaga kujisiafia kuwa ni kazi yao hata kama linamhusu mtu binafsi.

    Nakumbuka Richard (ambaye sijui hata kama ana kadi ya chama) baada ya kushinda mashindano ya ngono (BBA). CCM na mijinguo yao ya kijani walijazana Airport kumpokea na Kiongozi wa CCM akasema nimatunda ya malezi mazuri ya CCM.

    Sasa linapokuja hili swala la ufisadi ambalo lina wagusa viongozi wakubwa tuu ndani ya chama wao wanasema ni mambo binafsi na hayahusiani na chama. Hizi si ndio double standard jamani? Nadhani mzee Sitta chama kingewawajibisha na ikiwezekana hata kiwanyang'anye kadi za uanachama na sio kuongea mambo ambayo naona ndio hayana kichwa wala miguu.
     
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    Heshima mbele mzee, unasahau kuwa ukichafuka mguu wako huwezi kusema sio mimi, ni mguu wangu. Viungo vya mwili wako ni sehemu ya mwili wako. Same as watu walioingia kwenye nyadhifa za serikali kwa tikiti ya CCM, au walichota mapesa BOT kwa kutumia jina la deep green bado CCM inahusishwa moja kwa moja, hapo hawawezi kukwepa kwa njia yoyote, we should never lose track of that!
     
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