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Secret of JK’s visit to the White House

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  1. BAK

    BAK JF-Expert Member

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    Secret of JK’s visit to the White House

    -And how Kenya seems to have got it all mixed up

    THISDAY REPORTER
    Dar es Salaam ​

    IT has now emerged how and why President Jakaya Kikwete got invited to the White House in Washington DC for a meeting with US President Barack Obama.

    According to Stephanie Engle, director of Water for Life Global which is a US non-profit organisation that hosted an event in honour of President Kikwete, the White House extended the invitation to the visiting Tanzanian president on learning of his presence in the American capital.

    ’’He was invited to meet President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and (IMF Managing Director) Dominique Strauss-Kahn when the same entities became aware that he was the guest of honour at an event hosted by us in Washington DC,’’ Ms Engle told THISDAY.

    The event was to be marked by President Kikwete being presented with new-technology water purification equipment by the US organisation for use in Tanzania.

    The latest clarification by Water for Life Global officials has been made in the wake of reports that neighbouring Kenya was not happy with Kikwete becoming the first African president to be invited for a meeting with the still relatively-new US president at the White House � despite the fact that Obama’s ancestral home is in Kenya.

    According to various sections of the Kenyan media, the gesture by Obama amounted to a snub of Nairobi in favour of Tanzania.

    ’’Tanzania elbows Kenya to become darling of the US,’’ asserted a headline in the Kenyan English-language newspaper Daily Nation, which went on to claim that the honour given to Kikwete ’’will further highlight Kenya’s diminished status on the international scene.’’

    Another leading Kenyan daily, The Standard, intimated that Obama held secret talks with Kikwete on the subject of Kenya.

    Stated The Standard article: ’’And even as the US increasingly lumps Kenya with failed states in the region, the disturbing aspect of the unfolding drama is this country’s inability to tap and take advantage of the US president’s roots....’’

    ’’The one man who is running away first with possible political and economic advantage from Obama, is Kikwete,’’ it added, asserting further that Kikwete had also enjoyed ’’closer ties’’ with Obama’s predecessor George W. Bush.

    ’’Tanzania’s clout and fortune (in this regard) have correspondingly risen as Kenya’s plummet,’’ the newspaper said.

    But in her statement to THISDAY, Ms Engle revealed that her organisation had also sought to gift Kenya with the same (water purification) technology ’’via President Obama’s ancestral village of Kogelo, Kenya.’’

    Explaining further, she said: ’’When it became apparent that White House representation was not forthcoming, Water for Life Global staff revisited the Kenyan embassy (in Washington), asking the staff there to send representation to accept the unit.’’

    �’’Despite our effort, we were told that no one in the (Kenyan) embassy was available as much of the staff would be in Chicago and others on holiday. No one? No one was available? Perhaps...but I wondered if the quietly escalating ’coolness’ between the US and Kenya was part of the reason for the unavailability of any staff members to participate for just a few moments in an event that was minutes away from the (Kenyan) embassy on R street, NW, WDC,’’ Ms Engle said.

    A statement issued by the White House on the Obama-Kikwete meeting said the two presidents ’’had a valuable discussion on a range of issues’’, including approaches to enhancing the US�Tanzanian partnership; improving development policy in health, education, and agriculture; and ’’working with other partners in the region to solve some of the most pressing conflicts on the African continent.’’
     
  2. Superman

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    Mwache Vasco Dagama atese jamani. Do more on what you are good at. Kama home kumemshinda, basi wacha afanye anachoweza ingawa hapaswi kuwa hivyo.
     
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    Superman!
    Criticism can also be positive. Being cynical, which you are, does not help anybody.
    Tuko kwenye matatizo, no question about it. Tuna leadership crisis, no question about that too. But we need to be realistic, and criticize bearing facts in mind. Otherwise, tunakuwa politicians, for the benefit of nobody.
    Just think, what JK is gonna learn from reading your post? Which he might!
     
  4. Kinyambiss

    Kinyambiss JF-Expert Member

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    JF can only be taken serious in its criticism if it acts in a manner which demonstrates the comprehension of how government works otherwise tunaonekana genge tuu. Hii cynicism yenu kwakweli saa nyingine inaonyesha kuwa this place is filled with ignorant bafoons who dont even understand the things they seek to critique. Inasikitisha kidogo..

    K out.
     
  5. jmushi1

    jmushi1 JF-Expert Member

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    Kinyambisi,unafanya nini humu if you certainly feel that way?
    Are you about to join Mswahili who unleashed such unrelentless and unfair criticism about this forum due to baseless and unfounded claims?
    Ebu tueleze basi mkuu how we act in a manner that demonstrates the comprehension of our govt.
    Kusema kuwa this place is filled with ignorant bafoons minus you ni ukosefu wa hekima....Lakini Kinyambiss is possible,maana neno kinyambiss ni old school ikimaanisha kinyama,ama kibabe...Inasikitisha si kidogo,bali sana tuu.
     
  6. Pundamilia07

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    "To effectively communicate, we must realize that we
    are all different in the way we perceive the world and use
    this understanding as a guide to our communication with others."
    — Anthony Robbins: is an American self-help writer & professional speaker

    Let us promote uhuru wa kujieleza kwa kila mtu. Kinyambiss ametoa maoni yake kwa kadri ya uhuru wake. unachotakiwa kufanya ni kuipinga hoja yake bila ya kuingilia uhuru wake binafsi.
     
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    jmushi1 JF-Expert Member

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    Maoni na matusi ni mambo mawili tofauti Mr Punda,hilo uelewe,hajatoa maoni kuhusu hoja husika,ila amecritisize mebers wa JF ina the same way and manner Mswahili did on Michuzi's blog.
    Sasa ebu niambie hoja yake ni ipi inayohusiana na mada hii Mr/Mrs Punda? Na ni uhuru gani huo alioingiliwa ambao yeye kama mtu smart kuliko wana JF wote umemtatiza?
    Ni hayo tu.
     
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    Pundamilia07 JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu,
    Nadhani wote tunaamini kuwa JF is not perfect at all the times and it can never ever be so kwani utimilifu upo kwa yule aliyetuumba tu. Halikadhalika wanachama wake vilevile hawawezi kuwa perfect.

    Kwangu mimi hoja ya Kinyambiss ninaiona kama changamoto kwetu sisi wana-JF tuweze kujiangalia ni vipi watu wengine wanavyotuona. Na mirror hiyo inaweza kutokea hata hapa ndani kwa mwanachama mwenzetu.
    Kwa hiyo ndugu yangu let's accept what he observed and kukifanyia kazi kile kinachofaa na kukiacha kile ambacho hakitusaidii.

    In fact we need members like kinyambiss ambao wataweza kusema yale wanayoyaona tunahitaji kuyatazama kwa manufaa ya JF.
     
  9. jmushi1

    jmushi1 JF-Expert Member

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    Kwenye posting yako iliyopita,nadhani umeshasahu kuwa umesisitizia umuhimu wa communication,sasa kama thats the way Kinyambiss amechoose ku communicate na wewe unaona ni sawa then kuna problem na labda ni hypocricy ama blindfolded by your biasness hence unable to see the other side of the coin.
    So nothing personal,niliamua kumjibu kutokana na yeye alivyotoa maoni yake ambayo kwa namna flani hayakuwa ya kujenga ama kutaka hiyo unayoita uhuru wake wa kujieleza,based on freedom of speech criteria,nilionelea nimjibu accordingly,kwasababu hapa JF kuna vipaji vya aina nyingi na sikupendezwa na matusi yake.
    Ni hayo tu mkuu,sasa turudi tu kwenye issue kwasababu naamini Kinyambiss ameona posting niliyomjibu na kama akitaka kujibu atafanya hivyo,na kama ameelewa ameamua kunedleea kukata issue,basi acha iwe hivyo other than instigating the issue even further..
     
  10. Pundamilia07

    Pundamilia07 JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu,
    Hopefully you read what I wrote and you have fully understood.
     
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    jmushi1 JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu,narudia tena,sina muda wa malumbano,nachosema ni kwa based on your following post,umetoa msisitizo wa effective communication ukijaribu kutetea posting ya Kinyambiss,na ndio maana nikasema kama ume consider communictaion ya Kinyambiss kuwa very effective,then in opinion siwezi kushangaa why hatuelewani....
    Na kama hayo hapo chini wewe ndio unaita effective communication,then sishangai that we differ here,however ni bora Kinyambiss mwenyewe ajibu badala ya wewe ku create more misscomunications...

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    JF can only be taken serious in its criticism if it acts in a manner which demonstrates the comprehension of how government works otherwise tunaonekana genge tuu. Hii cynicism yenu kwakweli saa nyingine inaonyesha kuwa this place is filled with ignorant bafoons who dont even understand the things they seek to critique. Inasikitisha kidogo..

    K out.
     
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