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Saudi Arabia bans Valentine's Day!!!

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    MaxShimba JF-Expert Member

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    Saudi Arabia has asked florists and gift shops to remove all red items until after Valentine’s Day, calling the celebration of such a holiday a sin, local media reported Monday.

    “As Muslims we shouldn’t celebrate a non-Muslim celebration, especially this one that encourages immoral relations between unmarried men and women, ” Sheikh Khaled Al-Dossari, a scholar in Islamic studies, told the Saudi Gazette, an English-language newspaper.

    Every year, officials with the conservative Muslim kingdom’s Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice clamp down on shops a few days before February 14, instructing them to remove red roses, red wrapping paper, gift boxes and teddy bears. On the eve of the holiday, they raid stores and seize symbols of love.

    The virtue and vice squad is a police force of several thousand charged with, among other things, enforcing dress codes and segregating the sexes. Saudi Arabia, which follows a strict interpretation of Islam called Wahhabism, punishes unrelated women and men who mingle in public.

    Ahmed Al-Omran, a university student in Riyadh, told CNN that the government decision will give the international media another reason to make fun of the Saudis “but I think that we got used to that by now.”

    “I think what they are doing is ridiculous,” said Al-Omran, who maintains the blog ‘Saudi Jeans.’ “What the conservatives in this country need to learn is something called ‘tolerance.’ If they don’t see the permissibility of celebrating such an occasion, then fine — they should not celebrate it. But they have to know they have no right to impose their point of view on others.”

    Because of the ban on red roses, a black market has flowered ahead of Valentine’s Day. Roses that normally go for five Saudi riyal ($1.30) fetch up to 30 riyal ($8) on February 14, the Saudi Gazette said.

    “Sometimes we deliver the bouquets in the middle of the night or early morning, to avoid suspicion,” one florist told the paper.

    Saudi Arabia has often come under criticism for its treatment of women, most recently in a United Nations report that blasted the kingdom for widespread discrimination. Under Saudi law, women are subject to numerous restrictions, including a prohibition against driving and a requirement that they get a man’s permission to travel or have surgery.

    A businesswoman told the Times of London this month that she was detained and strip-searched by the religious police for holding a meeting in a coffee shop with male colleagues.

    Two years ago, a teenager was raped by seven men who found her alone with a man unrelated to her. The government sentenced the 19-year-old woman to 200 lashes and six months in prison for being in the company of a man who wasn’t a family member or her husband. She was later pardoned. The seven rapists were sentenced to two to nine years in prison.




     
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    According to Shariah, it is a sin to celebrate your love for someone. Unless of course that love is between a 50 year old man and a 9 year old(be it a girl or boy). Then it’s ok. But buying that special someone red roses or heart shaped chocolates? That’s a fatwa.

    As you read the following quote, remember it was the Saudis who hosted an interfaith dialogue last year: “As Muslims we shouldn’t celebrate a non-Muslim celebration, especially this one that encourages immoral relations between unmarried men and women.”

    In line with that logic, we should not celebrate a single damned muslim holiday, if that is how they see ours. So from now on, during Ramadan, or any other muslim holiday, be sure to voice your opposition to being forced to cater to muslims, provided you aren’t living in a muslim country. They will not honor our holidays, but if you do not honor theirs, they will throw you in jail. This is the tolerance afforded the infidels, by the religion of peace, islam.

     
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    Max kwani Valentine's Day ina historia gani? Jee iko attached na Ukristo?
     
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    Umeuliza maswali mazuri sana na ya kifikra.

    Sharia laws inasema kuwa Muslema are not allowed to celebrate any and all non muslems celebrations.

    Kuhusu attachment ya shere hiyo na Ukristo, I don't recall any ralation between SIKUKUU YA WAPENDANAO NA UKRISTO, ingawa Ukristo unabase kwenye LOVE. Kama Yesu alivyo sema love covers the maltitude of sins. Unless if there is no love in Islam Nation, then, there will be a relation.
     
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    Hiyo ndo valentine hukooo kwa wakuu
     
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    umeongelea yesu alisema love covers the maltitude of sins lakini hukubainisha ni mapenzi yepil yaliyo kusudia hakuna sehemu hata moja ndani ya bible iliyo ruhusu zina ya aina yoyote ile ikiwa mvilana na msichana au msichana na msicha au mvulana na mvulana leo angalia hata makanisa husikii kukemea hilo badala yake limefanywa ni miongoni ya mamrisho ya ukristo tukija Pombe Bible imekataza leo hii angalia tukienda zaidi Nguruwe wakristo hatukuruhusiwa leo imekuwa sehemu ya ukristo kula nguruwe tuangalie hawa sister leo wanaenda uchi miaka ya nyuma walikuwa wakifunika zile sehemu za mvutio sasa wapi tunakwenda hao waislamu wao wanachunga wanachokiabudu kwa upande wa wakristo tunatakiwa turudi katika basic za ukristo badala ya kutafuta watu fulani wanazuwia mambo fulani hawafanyi hivi wanafanya vile leo vyombo vya habari ulaya namarekani vimekuwa mstari wambele kupromoti usagaji na mambo ya ugay huku kwetu nasi tunafuata kidogo kidogo ipo siku tutamka tumekuwa na hali kama hiyo mungu aepushe maovu hayo yaliyokatazwa ndani ya Bible kupitia jesus
     
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    Kituko JF-Expert Member

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    black jesus
    nahisi wewe ni mkristo lakini maskini ya mungu naona biblia imekupitia kushoto kabisa, na kanafasi cha humu ni kadogo sana vinginevyo tungekufafanulia hizo hoja zako ulizoweka hapo juu,
    kingine naomba hicho ukiweke akilini kinachofanywa na marekani na uingereza huo sio ukristo japokuwa ukristo ndio dini kuu huko lakini wapo kinyume kabisa na mafundisho ya ukristo, kwa hiyo hayo mambo ya kishoga si ukristo,
    mzee angalia sana hayo mambo ya mihadhara inaonekana hauko strong kabisa kwenye imani yako kwa sababu unajideny kwa vitu ambavyo ni pointless
     
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    Padri Robinson Marekani amejitangaza wazi kuwa ni shoga na anaendelea kuongoza ibada bila matatizo,dini nyengine bwana
     
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    valentines has pagan origins and this is contrary to Islam so I dont see the issue. There is no rule that one culture has to see eye to eye with another on any issue as a matter of fact.
     
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    Laiti mgezingatia hiyo para yako ya mwisho hizi PUMBA zenu msingezileta.
     
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    Hivi naomba kueleweshwa kutokana na kauli yako inayosema hivi ( kinachofanywa na marekani na uingereza huo sio ukristo japokuwa ukristo ndio dini kuu huko lakini wapo kinyume kabisa na mafundisho ya ukristo)kwani walioleta huo ukristo hapa afrika ni kina nani ??ni wao. hebu tujalie ule wakati wanaleta ukristowalikuwa tayari wamesha yaweka mambo haya ya ushoga na baadae wakatuletea hii dini kama walivyo fanya na kutwambia kuwa mambo haya ni miongoni mwamambo ya kimaisha naimani yangefuwatwa
     
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    ...........mmmmmmmmmmh sas ushoga kwenye thread hii unatoka wapi mbona unatuchanganya mkuu!!
     
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    Toka lini zinaa ikawa LOVE? Naona hujuwi maana ya love au unachanganya au changanyikiwa unapotafsiri neno LOVE/UPENDO.

    Msukumo wa damu unapokusukuma na kwenda kuchuwa kimada kama uanvuo sema hiyo si love bali ni uzinzi. Love sio maana yake ngono kama unavyo fikiria. Love ni zaidi ya ngono.

    Waislam unao wapigia debe kwa kuvaa nguo za kininja ndio wanao ongoza kwa ngono. Angalia, dini yao, inaruhusu kuoa wake wangapi?

    Hivyo basi, valentine haina uhusiano na ngono bali ni kwa wale uwapendao, kama Mama yako, Baba yako, Kaka yako, Dada yako, etc. na sio boy friend na girl friend kama ulivyo tafsiri wewe kutokana na upeo wako.
     
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