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Rostam amvaa Dr. Slaa lakini utetezi wake wamweka pabaya

Discussion in 'Uchaguzi Tanzania' started by Rutashubanyuma, Nov 5, 2010.

  1. Rutashubanyuma

    Rutashubanyuma JF-Expert Member

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    Rostam Aziz amejitetea huku akimnyanyapaa Dr. Slaa kuwa ni mzushi na anazeeka vibaya lakini utetezi wake Bwana Rostam ya kuwa alikuwa Afrika ya Kusini wakati tarehe za hicho kikao cha kupanga mikakati ya kuchakachua matokeo ya uchaguzi ambacho Dr. Slaa alidai kilifanyika Mwanza chini ya uenyekiti wake JK............

    Tatizo kwa Rostam Aziz ni utetezi wake ndiyo unamweka pabaya sana...........

    Bw. Aziz ametoa nakala ya pasipoti yake ikionyesha muhuri wa uhamiaji kwa tarehe ileile ambayo ilidaiwa alikuwa Mwanza...lengo hapa ni kuonyesha ya kuwa alikuwa safarini siku hiyo akielekea Afrika ya Kusini.......sasa tatizo ni nini?

    Mapungufu ya utetezi wa Mheshimiwa Mbunge wa Igunga ni kuwa ushahidi wake haujitoshelezi hata kidogo kwa sababu zifuatazo:-

    a) Pasipoti yake haikuonyesha mihuri ya uhamiaji ya Afrika ya Kusini wakati akiingia huko na akitoka jambo ambalo linaashiria pengine muhuri wa Tanzania kwa siku ya kuondoka ulikuwa umewekwa baada ya hizo tarehe ambazo yadaiwa alikuwa Afrika ya Kusini............

    b) Hana ushahidi wa hoteli alizofikia kule Afrika ya Kusini kwa maana ya nakala za risiti ili watakaotaka kwenda kukagua hizo hoteli waweze kufanya hivyo na kujihakikishia kuwa yumo kwenye orodha ya wageni wa hoteli hizi kwenye vitabu vyao vya kumbukumbu..kwa tarehe husika....kama ameghushi vitu hapo atakamatwa............................................................

    c) Rostam anadai alikwenda kukutana na wafanya biashara wenzie huko Afrika ya Kusini lakini hajaambatanisha hati za viapo za hao jamaa zake ili kuweka uzito kuwa kweli kuna watu aliokutana nao Afrika ya Kusini na kwa kutofanya hivyo ushahidi wake wa kusemea watu wengine ni ."hearsay".......ambao tunalazimika kupuuza kabisa kuwa ni majungu aliyoyapika yeye mwenyewe.......

    d) Mbaya kulikoni yote kwa Mheshimiwa Rostam Aziz hakuonyesha kwenye nakala za pasipoti yake mihuri ya Afrika ya kusini na Tanzania kuonyesha tarehe alizotoka Afrika ya Kusini na kurejea nchini................Tatizo hapa ni nini?...............Kulingana na ushahidi wake mwenyewe Rostam Aziz alipaswa awe bado yuko Afrika ya Kusini lakini sasa yupo nchini hili linawezekanaje?

    e) Rostam atuonyeshe nakala za tiketi za ndege ambazo aliondoka nayo hapa nchini kwenda Afrika ya Kusini na ile iliyomrudisha nchini...........hapo ndipo kizazaa kilipo Mheshimiwa............

    Yaani anavyo vielelezo vya uhamiaji vya kutoka hapa nchini lakini hana vya kurudi nchini hii ni nini kama siyo uhamiaji imeshiriki kuchakachua kumbukumbu zake kwenye pasi yake ya kusafiria ili kutoa mwanya wa kutoa utetezi wa kumbeza Dr. Slaa ambao hata haonyeshi ya kuwa utetezi huo ulienda darasa lolote...............

    Bado tunamwomba Mheshimiwa Mbunge wa Igunga kujibu hizi hoja za kimsingi na kadri atakavyokuwa akiendelea kuzijibu atajifunza ya kuwa....the devil of "pack of lies" is always on the details.................Make my day Mheshimiwa Rostam Aziz.......and be my guest......This rebuttal of yours is no smoking gun, at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    miye hata maswali nimechoka kujiuliza..
     
  3. Nyambala

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    Hivi huo uhudhuriaji wa kikao hicho umetajwa kwamba ni physical pekee au? Ina maana telephone na video conferencing haziwezi kumuhesabu mtu kama alihudhuria?

    Just curious!
     
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    furahi JF-Expert Member

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    Kama ni video conference huo muhuri kwenye pasi wa nini?
     
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    Kila kitu kina mwisho wake. Hata hivyo, ni kile tu ambacho kina mwanzo
     
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    Haya maswali vilevile huyu Ridhiwani aliyedai alikuwa nje ya nchi wakati wa kikao hicho anapaswa kutoa vielelezo vya ushahidi vinavyojitosheleza haitoshi yeye kudai kuwa alikuwa nje ya nchi kwenye hizo tarehe halafu akaishia hapo............We need concrete evidence and alibi.......we are not fools as they deign us we are.................................
     
  7. Rutashubanyuma

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    Mr. Nyambala; my friend, video-conferencing ndiyo itamweka mahali pabaya zaidi ya kuwa kumbe alikuwa nchini na yeye Rostam Aziz anataka aonekane alikuwa Afrika ya Kusini na hivyo asingeweza kuhudhuria kile kikao cha kupanga mikakati ya kuchakachua matokeo cha jijini Mwanza........................
     
  8. Kishaini

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    Cha msingi ni kwamba kikao kilifanyika. Ila sasa watu wanataka kujitoa kwamba hawakuusika/hawakuhudhuria. Ukiweka ukuwaji wa tekinologia, inaniofanya niamini kwamba AZ alihudhuria kikao hiki (physical or via phone or video link or skype, etc) na he was awere of the said meeting. Hayo anayoyasema ni bla bla tu. :A S angry:
     
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    Huyu msukuma ambaye wasukuma wanaamini ni msukuma kutoka asia...........kweli wajinga ndiyo waliwao..............kwa nini wasukuma mnaruhusu watu wa namna hii wa kuliangamiza taifa na ambao hawawezi kuchukuliwa hatua zozote na rais mnawachagua?.......tutaanza kuilaumu mikoa inayotuchagulia wasia wakati wana vijana wao wamewasomesha kwa pesa nyingi na kwa kukamuliwa na ccm..........akina rostamu sisemi tuwafukuze ila tuwaruhusu waendelee na kilichowaleta yaani wafanye biashara zao halali walipe kodo na mambo ya nchi watuachie................wasukuma bado mnachagua rangi?....hamtaki vijana wenu wazawa waende bungeni kuwatetea?.......hata km mtu anauwezo kiasi ganiu lakini lazima muheshimu utu wenu kwa kujiheshimu wenyewe..........nawalaumu wasukuma kwa kuendelea kutuletea mafisadi......chenge,rostam na arusha wanatuleta lowasa................
     
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    Kwa mtu ambaye ana dead conscience mnadhani angesemaje? kama si kuendelea kukana tu wakati moyoni anajua alilolifanya!
     
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    wabejah sana
     
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    Kaka usitulaumu sisi wasukuma, laumu mfumo mzima wa Chama cha Mapinduzi kutetea mafisadi. tutake radhi.
     
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    Jana nilikuwa najaribu kupitia maandiko fulani kuona ni vp mwizi na jangili anvyoweza kutawala watu wasafi wamwaminio Mungu, nikakutana na mstari mmoja unasema MWENYE NACHO ATAONGEZEWA NA ASIYE NACHO HATA KILE KIDOGO ATANYANG'ANYWA(emphasis is mine). Kilichopo sasa tuangalie tu mbele kila mtu aokoe nafsi yake.
     
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    Mkuu Ruta, my curiousity kuhusu aina ya uhudhuriaji inakuja kutokana na kwamba barua imeeleza wahudhriaji kwenye kikao hicho. Lakini from what I know hata ukichangia mkutano thru teleconf. au videoconf. unakuwa ni muhudhuriaji and remember this can be done from anywhere in the world. Hivyo basi hawa watu kuibuka na kusema hawakuwa Mwanza siku hiyo si hoja yenye mashiko in this respect.
     
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    ujue hawa jamaa majinga sana, wanadhani kufoji ni kazi rahisi?koporay real situation is an at, am sure sasa wanatauta hai fasta fasta, na becaus ni vlaza hawawzi kujiuliza maswali muhimu kuhusu ulaghai wao, kwa taarifa yao, kulaghai is an art, huwezi kurupuka utadakwa tuu
     
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    Mafisadi kama hao tumeshawajua na kuwazoea kwani anaweza kufoji kila kitu na kujitakasa kwa kutumia pesa ila kila kitakachofanyika sirini kitafichuliwa, kama kweli hawahusili wakae kimya kila kitu kitawekwa wazi
     
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    Mtakafufa na vijiba vya roho!

    1.Hiyo barua ya Mwaanza aidha iliandikwa na wajanja wachache wa CCM ili kuwatisha wapiga kura

    2.Au imegushiwa

    3.Niemkuwa Mfuatiliaji na mshiriki wa siasa muda mrefu,Rais hawezi kuwa mjinga kiasi hicho cha kukutana na watu kwenye hoteli ya Lakairo na kupanga mipango mkibuwa kiasi hiki.Hell No

    Mwizi msemeni ili ukweli juu yake Mmsiupotoshe.Nina uhakika RA alikuwa afika kusini kipindi hicho na kuna watu wangu wa karibu walikuwa naye kwenye huo mkutano Jo 'berg!
     
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    jamani huyu Jamaa atatupoteza kabisa tuionee huruma Nchi yetu.
     
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    Alikwenda kumalizia course fee ya masters yako!
     
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    Asante, Hii imeandaliwa kisomi zaidi
     
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