Pressure piles on EAC to go slow on political union

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Tanzania, long seen as the obstacle to a fast-tracked political union of the East African Community partner states, has finally broken out of isolation as prominent voices in the region break ranks with politicians to urge a more gradual and people-centred process.

Questioning the viability of creating a political federation exclusively driven by politicians and bureaucrats while citizens are given a ringside role, retired judge of the Ugandan Supreme Court Prof George Kanyeihamba says that the EAC in its present form is at best a gentleman's agreement between the leadership elites of the respective states with little, if any, input from citizens.

Alongside dons from Tanzania, Prof Kanyeihamba was speaking during a high level policy dialogue on regional and socio-economic integration in the East African Community organised by the Advocates Coalition for Development (ACODE) in Kampala earlier this month.

Kenya was not represented at the Kampala dialogue.
"The campaign for the East African Community and a possible EA federation are the preserve of the ruling classes in the region. It can be said therefore that the EAC is the result of a gentleman's agreement between the leadership of the respective states with little, if any, input from the people of East Africa. I question the sincerity and viability of creating a political federation," said Prof Kanyeihamba.

Authoritarian approach
In a heated debate between scholars, the EAC Secretariat staff and legislators of the EA Assembly, the top-bottom approach to achieve the political federation - which was said to be authoritarian in the first place - came under attack, with the Tanzanians warning that they would abandon the Community altogether.

"Downplaying or ridiculing the concerns of some people or partner states on certain aspects relating to the establishment of the East African Federation should stop. For instance, when you ask Tanzanians to choose between the EAC and SADC, the answer is obviously SADC because it was Nyerere's brainchild.

There are no East Africans in the EAC and they won't be created by a treaty," said Prof John Kabudi the Dean of the School of Law at the University of Dar es Salaam.
"It appears the five countries are not ready for the political federation yet we continue to invest our resources in that process. We should invest somewhere else. Let's focus on co-operation instead of this federation business, Prof John Mugabe from Uganda reiterated.

Prof Mwambutsya Ndebesa, a lecturer in History and Development Studies at Makerere University, said, "There is no common ideology in East Africa. The issue of fast-tracking political federation should therefore be halted. In history a federation has never succeeded without the use of force, apart from Israel."

Analysts have observed that a political federation would be unattainable until issues of ethnicity in partner states, discrepancy in economic benefits, a conducive environment for acquisition of land and free movement of people and capital within the region have been addressed.

"Most of the fighting is about how much one is selling. We should review the Kampala agreement and move away from trade integration to production integration. Our integration should be more out of necessity than a choice, gain or power," Prof Mwesiga Baregu of the University of Dar es Salaam's Department of Political Science observed.

Civil society groups have also asserted that the continued disregard of a people-centred principle enshrined in the Treaty in the campaign for the federation has denied the process legitimacy.

Source: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/-/2558/830986/-/view/printVersion/-/7698p3/-/index.html
 
I have been very gullible before but thank God i have interacted with Tanzanians a lot this year. 80% of Kenyans have a very wrong perception of a Tanzanian. That he can not hurt a fly, he is honest, he sees you has a brother etc but to the contrary he is not.
I don't like generalizing people and their traits but i did a small research. Highly learned guys were very supportive of EAC but the average Tanzanians is totaly opposed to it. If you look EAC with the lens of what kenya is getting from it and not what You as an individual is going to get from it then there will no benefits.
The political federation is unnecesary at the moment when EU reaches there we can also follow. I hurge Kenyans to interact with Tanzanians with a bit of caution. View them like any other person in the world.
 
I have been very gullible before but thank God i have interacted with Tanzanians a lot this year. 80% of Kenyans have a very wrong perception of a Tanzanian. That he can not hurt a fly, he is honest, he sees you has a brother etc but to the contrary he is not.
I don't like generalizing people and their traits but i did a small research. Highly learned guys were very supportive of EAC but the average Tanzanians is totaly opposed to it. If you look EAC with the lens of what kenya is getting from it and not what You as an individual is going to get from it then there will no benefits.
The political federation is unnecesary at the moment when EU reaches there we can also follow. I hurge Kenyans to interact with Tanzanians with a bit of caution. View them like any other person in the world.
Now you are talking, when Kenyans view us with respect we will have no guddles with you.
 
Now you are talking, when Kenyans view us with respect we will have no guddles with you

Haimaanishi kila mtanzania anawaona wakenya nyang'aus. Please respect kaka kama wao wanatutukana haimaanishi na sie tuwatukane.
 
Tanzania, long seen as the obstacle to a fast-tracked political union of the East African Community partner states, has finally broken out of isolation as prominent voices in the region break ranks with politicians to urge a more gradual and people-centred process.

Questioning the viability of creating a political federation exclusively driven by politicians and bureaucrats while citizens are given a ringside role, retired judge of the Ugandan Supreme Court Prof George Kanyeihamba says that the EAC in its present form is at best a gentleman’s agreement between the leadership elites of the respective states with little, if any, input from citizens.

Alongside dons from Tanzania, Prof Kanyeihamba was speaking during a high level policy dialogue on regional and socio-economic integration in the East African Community organised by the Advocates Coalition for Development (ACODE) in Kampala earlier this month.

Kenya was not represented at the Kampala dialogue.
“The campaign for the East African Community and a possible EA federation are the preserve of the ruling classes in the region. It can be said therefore that the EAC is the result of a gentleman’s agreement between the leadership of the respective states with little, if any, input from the people of East Africa. I question the sincerity and viability of creating a political federation,” said Prof Kanyeihamba.

Authoritarian approach
In a heated debate between scholars, the EAC Secretariat staff and legislators of the EA Assembly, the top-bottom approach to achieve the political federation — which was said to be authoritarian in the first place — came under attack, with the Tanzanians warning that they would abandon the Community altogether.

“Downplaying or ridiculing the concerns of some people or partner states on certain aspects relating to the establishment of the East African Federation should stop. For instance, when you ask Tanzanians to choose between the EAC and SADC, the answer is obviously SADC because it was Nyerere’s brainchild.

There are no East Africans in the EAC and they won’t be created by a treaty,” said Prof John Kabudi the Dean of the School of Law at the University of Dar es Salaam.
“It appears the five countries are not ready for the political federation yet we continue to invest our resources in that process. We should invest somewhere else. Let’s focus on co-operation instead of this federation business, Prof John Mugabe from Uganda reiterated.

Prof Mwambutsya Ndebesa, a lecturer in History and Development Studies at Makerere University, said, “There is no common ideology in East Africa. The issue of fast-tracking political federation should therefore be halted. In history a federation has never succeeded without the use of force, apart from Israel.”

Analysts have observed that a political federation would be unattainable until issues of ethnicity in partner states, discrepancy in economic benefits, a conducive environment for acquisition of land and free movement of people and capital within the region have been addressed.

“Most of the fighting is about how much one is selling. We should review the Kampala agreement and move away from trade integration to production integration. Our integration should be more out of necessity than a choice, gain or power,” Prof Mwesiga Baregu of the University of Dar es Salaam’s Department of Political Science observed.

Civil society groups have also asserted that the continued disregard of a people-centred principle enshrined in the Treaty in the campaign for the federation has denied the process legitimacy.

Source: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/-/2558/830986/-/view/printVersion/-/7698p3/-/index.html

Said and done. the idea of EAF (East Africa Federation) should be burried. What we should center on is the option of having an EAC for sake of our own development. It is high time we need to share and transfer to knowledge to every common mwananchi on self development and being innovative in various ways. It is true that we need each other but at same time we need to find better ways to cooperate for the benefits of the local mwananchi in their respective countries. Rwanda has scrapped out visa for East African long time ago and today is one of the leading country when it comes to I.T sector and it is also considered to become one of the leading ICT Hub in East Central & Southern Africa if not Africa. Rwanda is very small country and they depend on ports from either Kenya and/or Tanzania. When we talk of our country Tanzania then we should be working harder and have efforts geared towards improvements starting from the village level coming inside to towns.
 
Hawa watu lazima watengeneze ajira kwao, siyo kuja kuzengea vibarua vya watu maskini ambao wamechuuzwa na wanasiasa kusaini mikataba isiyozingatia mahitaji wa mtanzania maskini. Waje lakini tutawaponda ponda kama nzi. Wanasiasa wao wana-lobby na kutrick wa kwetu ili watafutia watu wao ajira na watanzania wafe njaa na wasisomeshe wattoto wao. Watakiona cha moto, mbaya zaidi hawaji kufanya kazi kazi za kitaalamu ni ulinzi, kuuzan kwenye ma super market na kufanya kazi mahotelini. Watu waamke.

Nashangaa zile ajira milioni 1 za Vasco Da Dagama anaamua kuzigawa kwa hawa wakora, ingawa nazo hatujui kama zimetimia! Sudan wameonyesha mfano, mauaji ya Wakenya kule ni matokeo ya treachery! Hivi ni haki kwa watu waliosuffer miaka yote hiyo kama wasudan wa kusini kwenda kuwapora vibarua vyao eti kwa misingi ya competition, hatuhitaki ushindani wa wabeba zege. Watuletee ma-doctor na waalimu world class waone kama kuna mtu ataongea! (and they don't have!) Wajifunze kukaa kwao! Waje na watakiona!

Smatta, heard me?
 
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