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President Obama makes final push for Healthcare Reform...and it passes!

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    Obama, Democrats lobbying hard for health vote


    By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer


    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama and Democratic leaders lobbied intensively for historic health care legislation Friday, striving to resolve a last-minute dispute over Medicare while gaining another precious "yes" 48 hours ahead of a climactic vote.

    With a showdown set for Sunday on the House floor, Democratic leaders still didn't command the 216 votes they needed, so every undecided lawmaker was the focus of personal attention from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the White House, and every "no"-to-"yes" conversion was trumpeted by party leaders.

    Obama, who delayed an overseas trip to help ensure passage of the legislation, planned to meet with Democratic lawmakers at the White House Saturday afternoon.

    In an 11th-hour pitch, the president spoke to an enthusiastic crowd at George Mason University in Virginia, lobbing attacks at the insurance industry with his coat jacket off and sleeves rolled up.

    "The only question left is this: Are we going to let the special interests win once again, or are we going to make this vote a victory for the American people?" he said.

    Obama described the stakes in stark terms, using words uttered so rarely out of the White House that they seem all but banned: "If this vote fails." What then? "The insurance industry will continue to run amok," the president said, pointing to rising rates, denials of coverage and limits on care.

    Meanwhile on Capitol Hill, the vote-counting spotlight swung to Rep. John Boccieri, D-Ohio, who announced that he would support the bill despite voting against an earlier version. "I'm not worried about the election," he said. "I'm worried about doing what's right."

    Boccieri became the fourth House Democrat to switch from "no" to "yes." Shortly after he announced his decision, Pelosi predicted: "When we bring the bill to the floor, we will have a significant victory for the American people."

    The good news aside, the White House and Democratic leaders faced a last-minute snag as some lawmakers complained about a provision in the bill on how health providers are paid under Medicare. Pelosi and senior White House officials raced to find a solution.

    "I'm a 'no' unless they fix it," said Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore. "We spent months working this out. If we don't get it in this bill, we will never get it."

    The conversation was all about how Democrats would vote because Republicans have formed a virtually impenetrable phalanx of opposition for the past several months.

    Retiring Rep. Bart Gordon, D-Tenn., and first-term Rep. Betsy Markey, D-Colo., announced their support Thursday; liberal Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, did so earlier this week.

    The momentum wasn't all in the right direction for Democratic leaders. Some rank-and-file Democrats who backed sweeping health care legislation when it passed the House in November showed signs of defecting. Weaker restrictions on federal funding of abortion was a concern, but not the only one.

    Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., a former union activist, said even a one-on-one meeting with Obama on Thursday hadn't convinced him that the legislation did enough to reform the health system and rein in insurers and drug companies.

    "I'm still currently opposed," Lynch said in an interview Friday. "But the president asked me to think about it, and if there were some type of measure that might move me to a better place on the bill, then he wanted to hear about it."

    As rumors flew around the House chamber of more possible opponents-turned-supporters - and also of previous "yes" voters who might withdraw their support - Pelosi worked her members, seeking out lawmakers individually or in small groups on the House floor to try to win them over.

    Obama postponed until June a planned Asia trip that was set to begin Sunday, allowing him to stay in town for the House vote and action next week in the Senate. He's playing host to individual lawmakers seeking favors or reassurance. House Democrats were also hoping to get a letter of support signed by enough Senate Democrats to guarantee passage of the package of changes in that chamber, something leaders hope will reassure rank-and-file House members that they won't be left hanging out to dry.


    Rep. Bart Stupak, a Michigan Democrat who has led a dozen House Democrats in opposing the bill because of the abortion issue, reiterated Friday that his group may vote no when the final vote comes.

    Party leaders doubt Stupak controls even half the dozen votes he claims.

    With the addition of the 153 pages of revisions, the bill would expand health care to 32 million uninsured, bar the insurance industry from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and trim federal deficits by an estimated $138 billion over the next decade.

    Beginning in 2014, most Americans would be required for the first time to purchase insurance or face penalties if they refused. Large businesses would face fines if they did not offer good-quality coverage to their workers. Millions of families with incomes up to $88,000 a year would receive government help to defray their costs.

    To address concerns of House Democrats, those subsidies were raised by an estimated $25 billion over a decade in the package of changes offered Thursday. Seniors who experience a gap in coverage in the Medicare prescription drug program would receive a $250 rebate this year - an election-year bragging point for Democrats as they look toward the fall campaign with control of Congress at stake. A special deal giving extra Medicaid money to Nebraska was struck in exchange for more Medicaid money for all states, though other special deals decried by Obama stayed in the bill.

    The changes also included another of Obama's top priorities: Federally guaranteed student loans would now be made only by the government, ending a role for banks and other for-profit lenders who charge fees. The savings, an estimated $60 billion over a decade, would increase Pell grants for needy college students as well as support for programs such as aid to historically black colleges, a priority of the Congressional Black Caucus.

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  2. Ab-Titchaz

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    Mkuu, my prediction... this bill will not pass.
     
  4. Ab-Titchaz

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    Oh yeah, we're 48hrs away and I hope this blue dog Democract will make up their mind.
     
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    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    BAK,

    heshima yako mkuu.

    Je, what are you basing your predictions on so that we can argue them out.
    Personally nadhani itatoboa. Watu kama kina Kucinich wako on board na
    endorsements kibao zimeanza kuingia kutoka AMA na AARP. Cha mno ni
    itoboe in The House kisha ikiingia Senate kuna mambo na ku-force the
    vote through reconciliation.

    Lets wait and see hapo kesho.

    Regards.
     
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    BAK JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu wiki hii nilikuwa nimebanwa mno na kazi hivyo hata nafasi ya kufuatilia nini kinachoendelea katika juhudi za O kupitisha hii bill muhimu sana katika awamu yake nilikuwa sina, hivyo prediction yangu ni ya wiki mbili au tatu nyuma nilipokuwa nafuatilia yaliyojiri wakati huo kwa karibu sana.

    Kama itapita basi itakuwa ni achievenent kubwa sana kwa O na chama chake at least they will have something to show off in November 2010.
     
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    Hofstede JF-Expert Member

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    This thing is 50-50. GOP wanachofanya hivi sasa ni divide and rule kwa kuwatisha wawakilishi wanaotoka GOP leaning states kuwa hii issue imetengezwa kumnufaisha Obama and leaders. Ila hata GOP nao wapo kwenye panic mode wanajua kuwa Bill ikipita uongo wao utadhihirika na kuwaathiri kwa muda mrefu kwani itachukua muda kwa wamarekani kuwaamini especially kama itaonekana kuwa walivyokuwa wakisema si kweli. Ila Ikipita isipite Democrats wao ndiyo wapo kwenye hali ngumu zaidi, the only thing ni kuipitisha bill.

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    End in sight, health care battle tilts Obama's way


    By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent

    WASHINGTON – One by one, House Democratic fence-sitters began choosing sides Friday, and the long, turbulent struggle over landmark health care legislation tilted unmistakably in President Barack Obama's direction.

    In full campaign mode, his voice rising, the president all but claimed victory, declaring to a cheering audience in Virginia, "We are going to fix health care in America."

    With the showdown vote set for Sunday in the House, Obama decided to make one final, personal appeal to rank-and-file Democrats, arranging a Saturday visit to the Capitol. Republicans, unanimous in opposition to the bill, complained anew about its cost and reach.

    ZAIDI HAPA.
     
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    Hotsfede,

    Jaluo kaamua kila undecided democrat atapigiwa simu personally from
    the Commander In Chief. Wanaoniudhi ni hao wanao-vote no
    because they are facing an election. The fact is the Republicans
    will not help them in way in their relection campaign no matter what
    side they take. Obama is telling them afadhali u-vote yes then you
    will have something to show during the campaign. Hii kitu ikipigwa
    chini its a double whammy for them.

    Enjoy picha...


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    And I am praying for him to succeed.
     
  12. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    Me too, maana there are other pressing matters that need to be addressed
    including Immigration Reform...hii itakua kali kweli na naisubiri kwa udi na
    uvumba.
     
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    Ab, Immigration reform itakuwa ngumu sana kupita katika kipindi hiki ambacho unemployment iko juu sana. Immigration reform inachukiwa na hata na baadhi ya liberals, sasa changanya tea party people na watu wengine ambao huwa hawako animated na kitu kingine chochote, lakini wanapinga immigration reform, changanya pia kuwa O angependa kupata kipindi cha pili cha urais, hapo pana kazi. Kama Obama atapitisha Immigration reform, itabidi atumiie executive order na hawezi kufanya hivyo sasa atasubiri kama atapata kipindi cha pili, halafu atoe hiyo order mwishoni mwa urais wake. Hali ilvyo sasa hivi ni ngumu sana.

    Faidi weekend.
     
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    Me too Wakuu. Jana nilifanya jitihada za kufuatilia CNN kwa karibu hasa kipindi cha AC360 na discussion katika magroup mbali mbali Online. Baada ya ufuatiliaji huo conclusion yangu ni kwamba, the vote is too close to call, advantage Obama. Republicans wameshasema hata ikipitishwa kesho watafanya kila wawezalo ili kuikwamisha bill hiyo.
     
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    Republicans are afraid that their lies will be exposed when the bill comes into effect, that's what they are fighting for.

    Obama to Dems law makers, "DO IT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"

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    I PREDICT THE BILL WILL PASS
     
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    Hivi nyinyi mnajua kilichomo kwenye hiyo bill au basi tu mnashabikia bila hata kujua kuwa usipokuwa na bima utatozwa faini? Hiyo bill inalazimisha watu wawe na bima. Mambo gani ya kulazimishana bana...yaani kama vile kila mtu alazimishwe kuwa na bima ya gari hata kama hana gari? Stupid.
     
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    God bless Barack Obama
     
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    Obama urges Dems to come together for health care


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    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writers Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar And Alan Fram, Associated Press Writers – 1 hr 7 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – Victory within reach, President Barack Obama exhorted House Democrats on Saturday to stay true to their party's legacy and make history by bringing health insurance to millions of struggling families now left out. Leaders exuded confidence as they defused thorny problems in the countdown to a landmark vote.
    Obama evoked Abraham Lincoln's moral compass and extolled Democratic achievements such as Social Security and Medicare — once controversial, now an essential part of the social fabric — on a day marked by a frenetic hunt for votes inside the Capitol and angry tea party demonstrations at the door. Some protesters hurled racial insults at black members of Congress.
    "Is this the single most important step that we have taken on health care since Medicare?" Obama asked rank-and-file Democrats far from the chanting crowds. "Absolutely. Is this the most important piece of domestic legislation, in terms of giving a break to hard working, middle-class families out there since Medicare? Absolutely.
    "It is in your hands," Obama said, bringing lawmakers to their feet. "It is time to pass health care reform for America and I am confident that you are going to do it tomorrow."
    In a carefully orchestrated appeal to unity ahead of a career-defining vote, Obama and House leaders were joined by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who brought a pledge from more than 50 of his Democratic colleagues to promptly finish the bill after the House votes Sunday. House Democrats have been wary of being left in the lurch by the famously unpredictable Senate.
    A series of last-minute flare-ups threatened to slow the Democrats' march to passage, after more than a year of grueling effort.
    The most intense focus was on a small group of Democrats concerned that abortion funding restrictions in the legislation don't go far enough. Determined to avoid votes on such a charged issue, Democratic leaders raised the possibility of addressing the concerns of abortion foes through an executive order from Obama. It would reaffirm existing federal law barring taxpayer funded abortions except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.
    House Democratic leaders abandoned a much-challenged procedure for passing the legislation after an outcry from Republicans and protest from some of their members. According to the new plan, the House will vote up or down the health care bill passed by the Senate on Christmas Eve as well as a package of changes.
    The Senate bill would then go to Obama for his signature, the companion measure to the Senate, which hopes to pass it within the week.
    Minutes after the leadership's change of heart, Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his support for the health care legislation. Cardoza had criticized the planned maneuver.
    The 10-year, $940 billion measure represents the biggest expansion of the social safety net since Medicare was enacted more than 50 years ago. It provides health coverage to 32 million people now uninsured, bars insurance companies from denying coverage to those in poor health, and sets up new marketplaces where self-employed people and small businesses can pool together to buy coverage. Less certain is whether it will also deliver on Obama's promise to slow the punishing pace of health care costs.
    Republicans, unanimous in their opposition, complained anew about the bill's cost and reach. Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said a fuller analysis of the bill's long-term costs is needed, but Democrats have left no time to carry it out.
    Displaying a gritty confidence, House Democratic leaders said they were getting closer by the hour. "We are on the verge of making great history for the American people," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
    In a flashback to the day in 2007 when Obama announced his presidential bid in Springfield, Ill., the president repeatedly evoked Lincoln's perseverance in the face of divisions — "We are not bound to win, but we are bound to be true."
    Obama praised two first-term Democrats who switched from no to yes — Colorado's Betsy Markey and John Boccieri of Ohio — for staying true to Democratic principles.
    "I know this is a tough vote," the president said, adding he also believes "it will end up being the smart thing to do politically."
    He told lawmakers: "This is one of those times where you can honestly say to yourself, doggone it, this is exactly why I came here. This is why I got into politics. This is why I got into public service."
    Obama's appearance came on a frantic day bordering on the surreal and sometimes turning ugly.
    Inside the Capitol, Democratic leaders pursued the last few votes to reach the 216 needed to pass the sweeping legislation, sometimes in full view on the House floor. Several thousand demonstrators opposed to the bill swirled on nearby streets, with some surrounding lawmakers between the Capitol and their offices.
    Obama's motorcade was delayed, and as he rode up to Capitol Hill, many of the protesters booed and gave him a thumbs down.
    Scores crowded into one House office building entranceway booed loudly when liberal Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., walked by.
    Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., said that as he left the Cannon House Office Building with Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a leader of the 1960s civil rights movement, some among the crowd chanted "the N-word, the N-word, 15 times." Both Carson and Lewis are black. Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones also said the incident occurred.
    "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," Carson said.
    Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for Democratic Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., said a protester spit on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who is black.
    Clyburn, who led fellow black students in integrating South Carolina's public facilities a half century ago, called the behavior "absolutely shocking."
    "I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus," Clyburn told reporters.
    Democratic leaders and Obama focused last-minute lobbying efforts on two groups of Democrats: 37 who voted against an earlier bill in the House and 40 who voted for it only after first making sure it would include strict abortion limits that now have been modified.
    The pressure remained intense even for those who had decided. Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., who switched from yes to no, received a scathing letter from labor unions in his state.
    Lawmakers said House leaders settled one major issue complicating passage of the bill, concern from lawmakers in states with low health care costs that Medicare payments for hospitals and doctors are too paltry.
    It was unclear how the leaders would resolve the dispute over abortion, or if they could avoid it.
    Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., who succeeded last November in inserting strict anti-abortion language into the House bill, had hoped to do so again. Pelosi met Saturday with three undecided lawmakers who are part of Stupak's group and hoped to peel them off. She succeeded with at least one, Rep. Chris Carney, D-Pa.
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    Hofstede JF-Expert Member

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    Mbona unajichanganya wewe. Unajua maana ya Bima?, Kama ukiwa na gari unalazimishwa bima ya gari kwa nini ukiwa unaishi katika dunia ambayo one day utakufa na kabla hujafa utaugua na kutakiwa kutibiwa mara moja, mbili, tatu ukapona na kuendelea kuishi mpaka muda utakapofika ukafa usiwe na Bima ya kukufanya uwe healthy pindi afya inapoteteleka?. Kama hutaki kulazimishwa Bima ya Afya KUFA, uwe kwenye group la wasio na gari ambao hawalazimishwi kununua Bima ya gari.
     
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    Mambo ya kulazimishana ni udikteta, sio demokrasia. Kwa nini unilazimishe kitu kama sikitaki? Hebu anzeni mbele huko....ebo!
     
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