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Plasma TV au LCD TV

Discussion in 'Tech, Gadgets & Science Forum' started by Zhule, Feb 11, 2010.

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    Zhule JF-Expert Member

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    Wanajamii naomba msaada wenu.Maswala haya ya electronics sina ujuvi navyo.Nilienda dukani kununua hizi TV kubwa za flat.kwa kawaida naziitaga LCD ingawaje sijui maana yake.Kufika dukani nikaambiwa kuna Plasma na LCD za brand nyingi karibia zote zipo.Nikaulizwa nataka ipi.Nikashindwa kuchagua kwaiyo sikununua.Nauliza mwenye utaalam anielemishe na anishauri ipi ni nzuri kwa hapo nyumbani. Nimegoogle pia nikashindwa kuelewa.Asanteni
     
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    Wacha1 JF-Expert Member

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    Hii topic ipo mahali flani humu angalia digital tv thread.
     
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    Kitia JF-Expert Member

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    Siku hizi kuna LED tvs ambazo ni more energy efficient na picha yake ni nzuri zaidi.

    'LED TVs use LED backlighting and deliver breakthrough picture quality in an energy-efficient, eco-friendly design. You'll enjoy an incredible range of brightness and color in an ultra-slim style. LCD TVs work well in both dark and brightly-lit rooms. Space-saving LCD TVs are also very lightweight so you can hang them on the wall or place them almost anywhere. Plasma TVs deliver realistic action scenes because of their high contrast ratios. You'll also see the deepest blacks, brightest whites and sharpest details from virtually any angle.'
    http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/index.idx?pagetype=subtype
     
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    Balantanda JF-Expert Member

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    Soma hapa [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display[/ame] na hapa [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display[/ame] utaona tofauti ya vitu hivo viwili

    Ila kwa kifupi tu ni kwamba Plasma zina life span(mara nyingi masaa 60,000) na yakiisha masaa hayo inakuwa ndo kwisha habari yake(haina kazi tena)........LCD yenyewe haina life span...So kama vp ni bora ukachukuwa LCD badala ya Plasma,pia waweza chukua LED TV(Ni aina ya LCD) maana ndo inatamba sokoni kwa sasa
     
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    Maverick JF-Expert Member

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    LCD ni bora kuliko plasma. Plasma ni teknolojia ya zamani kidogo katika nchi zilizoendelea. Kwa sasa nchi zimeanza kutumia LED, lakini kwetu teknolojia inaweza kuchukua muda kufika. Lakini kama uko nje ya nchi. LED might be a better option ingawa bei yake nayo itakuwa imeshiba pia...
    Kama ni Plasma na LCD, chagua LCD........
     
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    Marigwe JF-Expert Member

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    Plasma inadumu miaka 10. Kama unataka kurithisha na wajukuu nunua LCD ndiyo Tanzania friendly.
     
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    lcd ndio bora zaidi mkuu.
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    hivi ni lini mtaacha kudanganya watu nyie watanzania wenzangu?Plasma is hands down way better than LCD.YOU NEED A VERY EXPENSIVE LCD TO EVEN COMPARE IT WITH PLASMA IN TERMS OF PICTURE QUALITY.

    get this in terms of picture quality..,

    LCD<Tube CRT<LED<PLASMA..,

    picture quality of plasma is so superior compare to a normal LCD that manufacturers had to invent LED just to bridge the gap in quality.even with all the market masquerades an LED TV costing $5000 is not as good as a plasma costing $3000..,don't even compare a kuro,or a respectable panasonic to a sony..,
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    don't be stupid and focus on buying a TV based on lifespan..,60,000 hour is around 10 hours of consecutive watching..,who does that?ever imagine dthe electric bill for doing that?!watching TV for 10 consective years must be nuts!we are talking about 20 years of shelf life here under heavy use..,10 hours a day watching(even this is not good-there is life outside the TV).

    plasma TV & LCD TV's lasts just the same..,dont listen to people who have no idea about what they say.
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    lcd's usability extends only to 42" anything more than that on an LCD screen is jut lame.

    sasa kama huyu mtu ataitumia hiyo TV jikoni au ******,au kama computer screen sawa to LCD.

    kama itatumika sebuleni,chumbani(big rums) au ukumbini..,plasma all the way..,

    kama ataitumia tv kusomea word documents or surfing the web(static contents),that is ok.buy LCD.

    if you want to watch movies,watch soccer,basketbal or any sport,play games or anything graphic intensive nunua plasma.upesi sana.

    sasa mnaosema LCD ni bora mnatumia kigezo gani?kwa sababu Patel posta kasema hivyo?

    my own experience..,any LCD below $2000(US market) is not worth buying you are just wasting money.go buy a plasma.ofcourse usitegemee kupata plasma kwa $700!!
     
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    Na wewe acha kudanganya watu....kuna plasma 50" niliziona zikiuzwa dola 700. Na sio watu wote wanapendelea plasma..teknolojia ya LCD imeboreshwa kwa sasa na zinatumia umeme wa wastani ukilinganisha na plasma.
     
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    Mapinduzi JF-Expert Member

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    Hapa inakuwaje bwana Kimweri? Je kuna uwezekano kuwa na wewe unapotosha members humu, kwamba unaongopa, hujui ila umesikia Patel wa posta kasema 60000 hour ni around 10 hours of consecutive watching nawe ukakremisha?
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    please provide me with MSRP price link ya 50" plasma ya hiyo bei hapo juu.to make it simple if i give you $700 will you be able to produce such TV set?!natumai sio ile mitumba yenu ya kariakoo inayookotwa huko dubai,china etc.

    wewe nani aliyekuambia LCD ni more energy efficient ukilinganisha na Plasma?!hiyo ilikuwa early 2000's when both technologies were new...,plasma used to have it's fare share of disadvantages.marketers/manufacturers are only pushing for LCD's because they are cheap to produce..,you are just being sold a $300 worth of an LCD panel dressed in a bigger frame for $800.what is better than that?!i hope unajua tofauti ya panel na TV set.

    Watu wana-prefer LCD kwa sababu the manufacturers/brands had them choose between what was cheap(poor) and what was expensive(good).the market choose cheap and poor because that was all they could afford.

    unajua 3 premium TV sets brands in terms of picture quality ni zipi?please do not say Sony as many other would say!it's not even close(sorry it chose to mass produce instead of quality)

    after you answer that question go on ask yourself why do they make expensive and way better plasma?why aren't there any el cheapo LCD makers only?why has sony lost its CRT era brand superiority?can you answer this questions?

    who buys a 50" TV and worry about electricity bills?that must be same as counting MPG's in a ferrari.it's ok but irrelevant.
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    kwanza nitake "radhi" kwa "kunituhumu" kuwa Patel kaniambia plasma inakaa 60,000 hours..,"patel" wowuld be very proud if i happen to buy from his joint for he/she knows selling to the uneducated,un-informed masses is his best weapon.

    Do you know that CRT mnazotizama sasa hivi life cycle yake ni 25000 hours max?nani aliyewahi kumaliza masaa yake?don't be naive guys..,

    let me give you a background check kidogo uelewe..,back in 1998-1999 when plasma was the 3D-TV of our time.the most nagging question about it was it's display lifespan,rated at just over 30000 hours back then.although irrelevant panasonic went on to produce a set that could last for 60000.this was a very important step for panasonic to de-thron sony as the king of premium TV sets as we knew it.While sony and others focused on LCD and content(hd-tv).panasonic,hitachi and the like kept their feets on the ground to develop Plasma's into what it is today.

    fast foward 10 years later,today plasma's are just too superior to the current LCD's technologywise and picture wise,if you understand about refresh frequency,black levels,and knows what a good contrast is then you know what i mean here.

    Go ask any videophile today and they would tell ya besides the mighty Kuro,the panasonic new lineup of plsma TV sets is the worl of magic(an absolute joy to watch)..,although a bit pricey starting at $3000 for the cheapest ones..,

    nafahamu kwa wengi wetu TZ picture quality doesn't really matter,BUT for some that's about the only reason we buy TV.to not have to watch those crappy LCD TV pictures.


    USHAAURI kwa watanzania..,ni ngumu sana kwa mhind kuleta the best plasma available...,ni aghali sana kwake,inamcost kusafirisha zaidi,inakodi kubwa(pricey) and profit margins are smaller..,

    plasma's are best enjoyed in countries that makes them,or in countries where logistics are good.

    "patel" hataacha kukuambia LCD ni bora kwa sababu ndio inayompa faida!
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    kama unaweza kununua nje ya nchi,nunua panasonic plasma's(they are expensive than most).kama unataka LCD,nakushauri nunua Samasung 2010 models..,na kama ukienda mwenyewe dukani na hutaki plasma utagundua ni bora ununue LED.i would buy samsung's latest LED 8000 series,it goes anywhere from $2000 to $5000.but this is the closest LCD technology has gotten to plasma yet!

    kama budget ni tatizo na umeamua kununua LCD,na uko TZ.,jiandae kupata kimeo.ila u might find a gem somewhere(very low probability though).
    order of merit ya LCD iweke hivi,
    1.Samsung,(wanatengeneza panels wenyewe,procesing yao ya video ni nzuri and build quality is ok for TZ-price is good as well)
    2.Toshiba,(very well rounded-kama wewe ni audiophile get these)
    3.LG,,(featurewise,no one beets these koreans,they have the most buck for the bang,do not expect samsung quality though)
    4.Sony(pricey-very poor quality for low end)
    5.Hitachi(LCD is not their strongest suit)
    6.chinese brands(Hisense,haier,Skyworth,Changhong)
    7.fekifeki(ukifika hapa ni muda muafaka wa kurudi nyumbani kupumzika-usinunue
     
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    Oxlade-Chamberlain JF-Expert Member

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    mkuu tofauti inakuja kutokana na events unazoangalia,kweli plasma ni nzuri kwenye sports event lakini wengine hatununui tv for sports events peke yake.

    kuangalia vigezo vya mda wa kudumu pia ni muhimu mkuu.kwanini lcd ni more expensive kushinda plasma? na kama huamini taja brand unayo hipa heshima nikuletee bei ya plasma na lcd huone hipi ni expensive?

    nani aliokuambia lcd below $2000 is not worth buying? taja brand hapo ndio tunaweza kujudge quality.

    [​IMG]
    Samsung 42'' Class 720p 600Hz Plasma HDTV, PN42B400 $628.00

    • 720p resolution
    • 2,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio
    • .001-ms. response time
    • Two HDMI inputs
    Model#: PN42B400P3DXZA



    hapa arguement yako itakuwa kwenye resolution 720p ambayo sio nzuri unatakiwa uchukue 1080p resolution.
     
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    [​IMG]
    Panasonic 46" Class Viera 1080p Plasma HDTV, TC-P46U1 [​IMG]
    $788.00

    1080p full-HD resolution
    Contrast ratio: 30,000:1 native
    600Hz subfield drive
    Three HDMI inputs Model#: TC-P46U1
     
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    Oxlade-Chamberlain JF-Expert Member

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    bei za plasma,lcd zimeshuka sana mkuu kamweri sasa hivi.

    nakuunga mkono kwenye LED .
     
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    Majibu yaliyotolewa yana conflict in between hivyo hatujamsaidia mtoa mada, what is the conclusion then?
     
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    Kimweri JF-Expert Member

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    in judging TV ability we actually use fast action movements to illustrate its refreshing ability.
    mfano gaming computers are undoubtedly one of the fastest and most efficient,most powerfull computers available in the industry.
    mtu yeyote anayetaka kununua a powerfull computer to run non gaming applications but still needs the power would be advised to buy a gaming laptop.Please don't say a macbook is a gaming laptop!!hapo juu najaribu kuonesha kitu kinaitwa benchmark.
    so in HDTV benchmark ya best performing TV are the ones that can handle Sports,fast moving action well.Kama hukubaliani na hili basi no need ya kubishana hapa.we are not on the same page at all.
    nimeshasema huko nyuma,kama unahitaji the best and you can afford it why buy the second class?
    mh si umeshaambiwa kuwa masaa 60,000 ni miaka kumi ya matumizi ya masaa 24 kwa kila siku?
    si umeshaambiwa kuwa kwa matumizi ya kawaida y afamilia zetu ya kutazama TV kwa 10 hours hiyo TV itakaa miaka 20?
    unaijua TV ya miaka 20 iliyopita ikoje?ni ile iliyonunuliwa 1989!who watch/use this sh**t now.it's too old in technology,so it's safe to say 60,000 hours should not be a reason to not buy a TV!!it's like asking a guy to not buy a car because it will only last 40 years!that's a joke..,of course a salesman will tell you such bullshit..,but i wont because i am trying to help.

    kwa sababu LCD yenye quality ya Plasma inagharama kubwa kuliko plasma..,
    kila mtaalam wa AV anashauri TV ya 42" and above at least think plasma.sasa katika context hiyo unamaanisha kuwa tunalinganisha >42" plasma and >42" LCD.
    sasa ndio hapo sasa ujue kuwa >42" LCD is just not worth a buy..,better buy LED!!which is an enhanced LCD technology..,LCD could not deliver same quality as plasma so they created an enhanced version of it called LED.kama hujui hili,know that now.how much will this cost you!well you know them malls..,go check yourself.
    so i can BOLDY SAY A GOOD LCD WILL COST MORE THAN A PLASMA.
    unamaanisha nini hapa?brand si nilishataja huko nyuma?just scroll back bana

    becuase i am an audiophile,a videophile,,i used to design chips/processors for a living,where we had to do loads of simulations to be able to tell how efficient/powerfull can it work in real life,and i can honestly tell you..,>42" LCD/LED at the current panel prices is just not worth buying..,from the engineering point of view,of course tunatofautiana kwenye requirements za quality.kuna watu humu naona wanasifia Toyota chaser qx110 kuwa ni gari bomba imara(technology ya 1980's!!phew..,nachoka kabisa.)..,kuna watu wanakaa kubishana nokia/blackberry line 2 ni feki au original,watu wa samle hii ni kazi kuwaambia maneno hayo juu wakakuelewa.kama na wewe ni mmoja wao samahani.read from here..,(you can get a perfectly normal good tv for less than $1,000)..,
    you probably wont notice the difference if i put an LCD panel beside the plasma one..,

    that is a really cheap plasma..,phew..,it must be out of stock by the time you get there!!run and get it please..,don't forget to check where the catch was thou!

    Nashukuru kwa kunisaidia hapa quality does not come cheap.hiyo 1080p is just a start the list goes on..,

    once i saw a TV set sold for 2.5M in dar,it was really a very bad TV,very mediocre picture.i asked the salesman why would people buy that TV!he said people have money in Dar.,and he sells many of those..,
    disappointed and angry i left there wondering of we can spend $2000 on a "bad" TV set why not spend it to buy something worthy?
    and that is what i was trying to help for..,helping those guys spending >2M to get good TV's
     
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