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Pirates In Indian Ocean: Seizing armory ship, oil tanker, etc & ransom demands

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Mkenya, Sep 27, 2008.

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    Pirates who seized a Ukrainian ship off the coast of Somalia have warned against any attempt to rescue the vessel's crew or cargo.

    One of the pirates said they would speak to Kenyan authorities about a ransom for the ship, which is carrying 33 battle tanks destined for Kenya.

    Pirates have seized dozens of ships near Somalia's coast in recent months.

    A Russian Navy vessel is heading to the region and the US says it is monitoring developments in the area.

    Ukrainian Defence Minister Yury Yekhanurov earlier confirmed 33 Russian T-72 tanks and "a substantial quantity of ammunition" were aboard the captured cargo ship, called the Faina.

    Ukraine's foreign ministry said the ship had a crew of 21 and was sailing towards the Kenyan port of Mombasa.

    The ship's captain had reported being surrounded by three boats of armed men on Thursday afternoon, it said.

    'Global security problem'

    Earlier reports suggested that the cargo had been destined for south Sudan, but Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua confirmed the tanks were heading to Kenya.

    "The cargo in the ship includes military hardware such as tanks and an assortment of spare parts for use by different branches of the Kenyan military," he said.

    Security analyst Knox Chitiyo told the BBC the latest incident showed the waters off Somalia's coast had become a "global security problem".

    "Piracy has become big business and there seems to be no concerted response to the problem," said Mr Chitiyo, from the London-based Royal United Services Institute.

    Authorities in Somalia's semi-autonomous region of Puntland say they are powerless to confront the pirates, who regularly hold ships for ransom at the port of Eyl.


    Senior UN officials estimate the ransoms pirates earn from hijacking ships exceed $100m (£54m) a year.

    Pirate "mother ships" travel far out to sea and launch smaller boats to attack passing vessels, sometimes using rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs).

    Last week, France circulated a draft UN resolution urging states to deploy naval vessels and aircraft to combat such piracy.

    France, which has troops in nearby Djibouti and also participates in a multi-national naval force patrol in the area, has intervened twice to release French sailors kidnapped by pirates.

    Commandos freed two people whose boat was hijacked in the Gulf of Aden earlier this month and in April, six arrested pirates were handed over to the French authorities for trial.

    Russia announced on Friday it would start carrying out regular anti-piracy patrols in the waters off Somalia to protect Russian citizens and ships. A warship had been sent to the area earlier this week, it said.

    Somalia has been without a functioning central government for 17 years and has suffered from continual civil strife.
     
  2. Nkamangi

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    Could someone please send me a photo of these somali pirates? i wonder what they look like, their courage must be humongous!! Isipite meli? Halafu mbona watu hawakomi kupita huko? mpaka yatchs zinadhubutu kusogelea hiyo territory? Au ndo kusema watu ulaya hawako informed kuhusu mambo ya Afrika, au wanadharau wakifkiri pirates wa kiafrika hawana lolote? Sasa wameteka meli yenye vifaru....UUwi. Wamarekani wanavyowahaha wasomali sijui kama watazubutu kuisogelea
     
  3. Mwana wa Mungu

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    kwanini wanapita huko mara kwa mara wakati wanajua kuwa hakuna usalama? don't they anticipate that? what is that business kwenda kwenye hatari wakati kuna njia nyingine za usalama? lazima walijua wanachokifanya, walishatarajia kitakachoweza kutokea na wakawa tayari kwa lolote litakalo wapata, so they should not start crying now wanapokumbwa na matatizo, kwasababy they were reckless of themselves. may God rescure them, but they should not repeat again.
     
  4. Kang

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    Jamani mnaosema wasipite huko, inabidi mpitite pitie ramani kidogo, wanapita huko kwasababu Suez canal ndio the only way through. Otherwise ingebidi wazunguke chini ya Africa!!
     
  5. Rev. Kishoka

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    Just imagine kama kuna vi missile kadhaa na hawa Pirates wanawasiliana na Columbian Cartel au Al Quaida!
     
  6. BAK

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    US destroyer nears Somali pirates
    BBC News Online

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    The USS Howard is one of several vessels in the area

    A US navy destroyer has made visual contact with a Ukrainian ship which was seized by Somali pirates last week and is now moored off the town of Hobyo.

    There is no indication that the USS Howard is about to approach the MV Faina, which is carrying 33 T-72 battle tanks destined for Kenya's government.

    A Russian navy vessel is also heading towards the region.

    The pirates have reportedly demanded a ransom of $35m (£19m) to release the Ukrainian vessel and its crew.

    But the Kenyan government has cast doubt on the report, saying it had not been issued with ransom demands.

    The pirates also warned against any attempt to rescue the crew or cargo of the ship.

    The US 5th Fleet is patrolling the area.

    Deputy spokesperson Lt Nathan Christensen told the BBC USS Howard was within five miles (8km) from the stricken Ukrainian vessel, but refused to say whether an intervention was likely.

    He said negotiations were continuing between the pirates and the owners of the Faina.

    International concern

    In an interview with the BBC, one of the pirates, Januna Ali Jama, claiming to be speaking on their behalf, said they were prepared to negotiate with the Kenyan government, but that would not release the MV Faina unless the ransom was paid.

    "We are warning France and others who are thinking of carrying out a rescue that we have the power to reach them wherever they are," he said.

    "We are demanding a ransom of at least $35m."

    Later, in a tersely-worded statement, a spokesman for the Kenyan government said they had not received any credible demands for a ransom to release the ship.

    He went on to say that the government would not negotiate with what it called international criminals, pirates and terrorists, and said efforts to recover the hijacked ship and its cargo would continue.

    The BBC's Karen Allen, in Nairobi, says there is constant monitoring of the international waters off the coast of Somalia - considered some of the world's most dangerous waters.

    'Big business'

    On Friday, Ukrainian Defence Minister Yury Yekhanurov confirmed that 33 Russian T-72 tanks and "a substantial quantity of ammunition" were aboard the MV Faina.

    Ukraine's foreign ministry said the ship had a crew of 21 and was sailing towards the Kenyan port of Mombasa.

    Authorities in Somalia's semi-autonomous region of Puntland say they are powerless to confront the pirates, who regularly hold ships for ransom at the port of Eyl.


    The MV Faina was carrying a shipment of battle tanks destined for Kenya

    Senior UN officials estimate the ransoms pirates earn from hijacking ships exceed $100m (£54m) a year.

    Pirate "mother ships" travel far out to sea and launch smaller boats to attack passing vessels, sometimes using rocket-propelled grenades.

    Last week, France circulated a draft UN resolution urging states to deploy naval vessels and aircraft to combat such piracy.

    France, which has troops in nearby Djibouti and also participates in a multi-national naval force patrol in the area, has intervened twice to release French sailors kidnapped by pirates.

    Commandos freed two people whose boat was hijacked in the Gulf of Aden earlier this month and in April, six arrested pirates were handed over to the French authorities for trial.

    Somalia has been without a functioning central government for 17 years and has suffered from continual civil strife.
     
  7. Ab-Titchaz

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    Now the Russians will be so upset with this death!!!!

    US destroyer nears Somali pirates


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    Pirates in small boats sail close to the MV Faina ​

    A US navy destroyer has made visual contact with a Ukrainian ship which was seized by Somali pirates last week and is now moored off the town of Hobyo.

    There is no indication that the USS Howard intends to approach the MV Faina, which is carrying 33 T-72 battle tanks destined for Kenya's government.

    The pirates' ransom demand has fallen from $35m to $5m (£2.7m), a US navy spokesman has said.

    A man on the ship also told the BBC that one of the crew members had died.

    The man, who the pirates said was its captain, was speaking via satellite phone after being given it by one of the pirates.

    The man said the dead sailor was a Russian and had died as the result of an illness.

    He also said the other crew members were fine and that he could see three ships about a mile away, including one carrying an US flag.

    International concern

    In an earlier interview with the BBC, a spokesman for the US Navy's 5th Fleet, Lt Nathan Christensen, said the USS Howard was within 8km (5 miles) from the Ukrainian vessel, but refused to say whether an intervention was likely

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    The USS Howard is one of several vessels in the area

    "The USS Howard… [is] currently on station, in visual contact and is monitoring the situation there," he said.

    "The motor vessel is anchored off the Somali coast, near the town of Hobyo, along with, actually, a couple of other pirated vessels that are also anchored in that location."

    Lt Christensen said the USS Howard had been in contact with MV Faina using VHF radio, and that negotiations were continuing between the pirates and its owners.

    "The [ransom] demands are now down to about $5m," he said.

    On Saturday, a man claiming to be one of the pirates, Januna Ali Jama, said they were prepared to negotiate with the Kenyan government, but that would not release the MV Faina unless a ransom of $35m (£19m) was paid.

    "We are warning France and others who are thinking of carrying out a rescue that we have the power to reach them wherever they are," he said.

    Later, in a tersely-worded statement, a spokesman for the Kenyan government said they had not received any credible demands for a ransom to release the ship.

    Lt Christensen said the ship's cargo made it a particularly worrying situation.

    "We're concerned that this might end up in the wrong hands, such as terrorists or violence extremists," he said.

    The BBC's Karen Allen, in Nairobi, says the waters off the coast of Somalia are considered some of the world's most dangerous.

    'Big business'

    On Friday, Ukrainian Defence Minister Yury Yekhanurov confirmed that 33 Russian T-72 tanks and "a substantial quantity of ammunition" were aboard the MV Faina.

    Ukraine's foreign ministry said the ship had a crew of 21 and was sailing towards the Kenyan port of Mombasa.

    Authorities in Somalia's semi-autonomous region of Puntland say they are powerless to confront the pirates, who regularly hold ships for ransom at the port of Eyl.

    BBC NEWS | Africa | US destroyer nears Somali pirates
     
  8. Nkamangi

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    Wha does kenya need 33 tanks for???? Siku mjaluo na mkikuyu in high places wakigombana akina mama kayai watapona kweli? Au is a coup de tat brewing somewhere?
     
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    Tusubiri ili tuone kitakachoendelea.

    Ninawaombea wote watakaopoteza maisha yao.
    Mungu awapokee kwenye makao yake. Amen.
     
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    Labda wanataka kuiteka Tanzania au Uganda.
     
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    Inashangaza na mateknolojia yote ya western hawa wasomali wamewashinda!!
     
  12. Ab-Titchaz

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    Nd'o swali hilo...cheki hio picha ya hapo juu...jamaa kwenye vi-speed boat
    wanasimamisha ndonga kubwa inayobeba vifaru vya vita????
     
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    Cha kujiuliza maswali ni kuwa Kenya tokea lini wakanunua silaha/ spea parts kutoka Urusi? Silaha kubwa kubwa kiasi hiki ni kwa ajili ya maandalizi ya vita ipi? Sio ajabu tumedanganywa na pengine hizi silaha hazikuwa za wakenya.
     
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    Kenya wanakubali kuwa ni zao na wewe unasema kuwa si zao! sasa mkweli ni nani?
     
  15. Ab-Titchaz

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    Kubwajinga,
    Heshima yako mkuu.
    Wala hujakosea mjomba.Hebu soma hii article hapa chini unambie...

    US says hijacked arms headed to Sudan, not Kenya


    By BARBARA SURK – 1 hour ago

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — A U.S. Navy spokesman says a weapons shipment on a Ukrainian ship hijacked by Somali pirates was headed to Sudan, not Kenya.

    Lt. Nathan Christensen, a deputy spokesman for the U.S. 5th Fleet in Bahrain, says the buyers in Sudan are unknown.

    A 5th Fleet statement Monday says the ship was headed for the Kenyan port of Mombassa, but that "additional reports state the cargo was intended for Sudan."

    Kenya has claimed it was the buyer for the shipment, which includes T-72 battle tanks.

    The U.N. has imposed an arms embargo on weapons headed to Sudan's Darfur conflict zone. But the ban does not cover other weapons sales to the Khartoum government or the southern Sudan's autonomous government.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information.

    AP's earlier story is below.

    MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — An American military spokesman says several U.S. warships are surrounding an arms shipment hijacked by Somali pirates.

    Lt. Nathan Christensen of the US Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet says an unspecified number of destroyers and cruisers have joined the USS destroyer Howard within a 10-mile radius of the Ukrainian-operated ship.

    The Faina is carrying 33 tanks plus rifles and ammunition that the U.S. fears may fall into the hands of Islamic insurgents fighting the Somali government.

    Christensen says the American ships will remain in place to monitor negotiations between the pirates and the ship company and helicopters are conducting over flights of the hijacked vessel.

    Pirates seized the ship off the coast of Somalia on Thursday as it headed to Kenya

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igGm … gD93GCRC81
     
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    The Americans who are trying to rescue the ship are not any better.They are pirates themselves.Look at what they doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.In Iraq they are steeling oil,and in Afghanistan they are growing cocaine for sale all over the world!Crazy them.
     
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    tikkera, thank you! you made my day, I hadn't smiled since morning, except for the sarcastic smiling at a mzungu for whom I am still thinking of ways to cause an acute episode of diarhea
     
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    Americans are neither steeling crude oil from Iraq nor growing cocaine in Afghanistan, they are peacekeepers.
     
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    Wamarekani ni watu wazuri sana, tena ni walinzi wa mataifa yote ulimwenguni; wanatusaidia kupambana na Magaidi pamoja na Itikadi kali duniani.
    Wako Iraki wanajitahidi kuliwezesha lile taifa liwe la amani na sio la magaidi.
    Wako Afghanistani wanajitahidi kupambana na mafedhuli Alkaida na Talebani hadi damu ya mwisho.

    Big up Americans.
     
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    Mbona waziri Ongeri wa kenya alisikika bbc akisema ni silaha za kenya tena, mchanganyiko maalum hapa!
     
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