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On father's day, Obama non too happy: Life without a father was no cakewalk!

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  1. Kuhani

    Kuhani JF-Expert Member

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    Wamarekani huwa kawaendekezi Mababa wanaokimbia watoto. Babake Obama aliwaacha na Mama yake akiwa mtoto wa miaka miwili, na Obama hajasahau!

    Obama Sharply Assails Absent Black Fathers

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    Senator Barack Obama took part in Sunday services at the Apostolic Church of God on Chicago’s South Side.

    Nytimes.com
    By JULIE BOSMAN
    Published: June 16, 2008


    CHICAGO — Addressing a packed congregation at one of the city’s largest black churches, Senator Barack Obama on Sunday invoked his own absent father to deliver a sharp message to black men, saying “we need fathers to recognize that responsibility doesn’t just end at conception.”

    Senator John McCain and Iraq’s foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, met Sunday in Arlington, Va., to discuss the war in Iraq and the likelihood of a future American military presence there. Mr. Zebari planned to meet with Mr. McCain’s Democratic rival, Senator Barack Obama, while in the United States.

    In an address that was striking for its bluntness and where he chose to give it, Mr. Obama directly addressed one of the most delicate topics confronting black leaders: how much responsibility absent fathers bear for some of the intractable problems afflicting black Americans. Mr. Obama noted that “more than half of all black children live in single-parent households,” a number that he said had doubled since his own childhood.

    “Too many fathers are M.I.A., too many fathers are AWOL, missing from too many lives and too many homes,” Mr. Obama said to a chorus of approving murmurs from the audience. “They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.”

    Accompanied by his wife, Michelle, and his daughters, Malia and Sasha, who sat in the front pew, Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, laid out his case in stark terms that would be difficult for a white candidate to make, telling the mostly black audience not to “just sit in the house watching ‘SportsCenter,’ ” and to stop praising themselves for mediocre accomplishments.

    “Don’t get carried away with that eighth-grade graduation,” he said, bringing many members of the congregation to their feet, applauding. “You’re supposed to graduate from eighth grade.”

    His themes have also been sounded by the comedian Bill Cosby, who has stirred debate among black Americans by bluntly speaking about an epidemic of fatherlessness in African-American families while suggesting that some blacks use racism as a crutch to explain the lack of economic progress.

    Mr. Obama did not take his Father’s Day message to Trinity United Church of Christ, where he resigned as a member in May after a series of disputes over controversial remarks by the church’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Instead, he chose the 20,000-member Apostolic Church of God, a vast brick structure on the South Side near Lake Michigan. The church’s pastor, Byron Brazier, is an Obama supporter.

    The address was not Mr. Obama’s first foray into the issue. On the campaign trail, Mr. Obama has frequently returned to the topic of parenting and personal responsibility, particularly for low-income black families. Speaking in Texas in February, Mr. Obama told the mostly black audience to take responsibility for the education and nutrition of their children, and lectured them for feeding their children “cold Popeyes” for breakfast.

    “I know how hard it is to get kids to eat properly,” Mr. Obama said at the time.

    The remarks Sunday were Mr. Obama’s first since he claimed the nomination that have addressed the problems confronting blacks in a comprehensive and straightforward way. While Mr. Obama’s remarks were directed at a black, churchgoing audience, his campaign hopes they resonate among white social conservatives in a race where these voters may be up for grabs.

    On Friday, Mr. Obama said he would co-sponsor a bill, with Senator Evan Bayh, Democrat of Indiana, that his campaign said would address the “national epidemic of absentee fathers.” If passed, the legislation would increase enforcement of child support payments and strengthen services for domestic violence prevention.

    “We need families to raise our children,” he said at the service on Sunday. “We need fathers to recognize that responsibility doesn’t just end at conception. That doesn’t just make you a father. What makes you a man is not the ability to have a child. Any fool can have a child. That doesn’t make you a father. It’s the courage to raise a child that makes you a father.”

    Mr. Obama spoke of the burden that single parenthood placed on his mother, who raised him with the help of his maternal grandparents.

    “I know the toll it took on me, not having a father in the house,” he continued. “The hole in your heart when you don’t have a male figure in the home who can guide you and lead you.
    So I resolved many years ago that it was my obligation to break the cycle — that if I could be anything in life, I would be a good father to my children.”

    But Mr. Obama also acknowledged his own flaws as a father, citing the breakneck schedule of the campaign and the rare days he spends with his children.

    “I say this knowing that I have been an imperfect father,” he said, “knowing that I have made mistakes and I’ll continue to make more, wishing that I could be home for my girls and my wife more than I am right now.”

    Representative James E. Clyburn, Democrat of South Carolina and an Obama supporter, said he welcomed not only the message the speech sent to black Americans, but also how it laid bare Mr. Obama’s own struggles growing up and, now, as the father of two children.

    “I have been saying for some time now that he needs to talk more about his life experiences and what it means to be raised by a single mother,” Mr. Clyburn said. “He opened up.”

    The Rev. Al Sharpton called the remarks on absent black fathers “courageous and important,” but cautioned that Mr. Obama’s words would not be embraced by all segments of the black community.

    “There are a lot of those who will say that he should not be airing dirty laundry, those that will say he’s beating up on the victims,” Mr. Sharpton said in a telephone interview. “This will not be something that will be unanimously applauded, but I think that not discussing it is not going to make it go away.”

    The Obama campaign added the speech to Mr. Obama’s schedule on Saturday, when he returned to Chicago after a campaign swing through Pennsylvania and Ohio. Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, took the day off from campaigning, but met privately in Washington with Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi foreign minister.

    The church did not publicize Mr. Obama’s visit in advance, and carried no mention of it on the its Web site.

    But word had clearly gotten out, and by 11 a.m., as a musician warmed up on the timpani, thousands of people had filed through metal detectors at the church entrance and filled the pews, saving seats for latecomers with pocketbooks and hymnals. Even those who arrived an hour before the service milled around the church searching for empty seats.

    Mr. Obama sprinkled his roughly 30-minute address with moments of levity. He said that when he asked his wife why Mother’s Day produced so much more “hoopla” than Father’s Day, she reminded him of his special status.

    “She said, ‘Let me tell you, every day is Father’s Day,’ ” he said. “ ‘Every day you’re getting away with something. You’re running for president.’ ”
     
  2. NaimaOmari

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    This guy deserves not only a big hug for this but also the presidency of america ... may God grant him this post
     
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    Mwikimbi JF-Expert Member

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    obama speech will touch more peoples despite the growing altitude of modernisation of families
     
  4. 黄锡麟

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    Obama is a vigorous cob,will do more for internal changes in China?
    Bush is torpid?
    The CCP autarchy like whom?
     
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    黄锡麟,

    I like the name... I doubted if you could be good at English m8!

    You're welcome aboard
     
  6. Nyani Ngabu

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    Hell no!!! He doesn't deserve it. The American Hero John Sydney McCain deserves it. He put his life on the line for this country. Obama growing up without a daddy makes him deserve the presidency? You must be snorting some serious crank to make such a statement.
     
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    Modernised families ndio zikoje, hazina Wazazi?
     
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    Nyani Ngabu Platinum Member

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    Women that go to sperm banks and gay couples.....
     
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    Kuhani JF-Expert Member

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    Nimekukamata.

    Mimi ningekuwa na Mababa wawili ningesikitika sana. Na ningeambiwa nimetoka kwenye vimbegu alivyo nyunyuziwa Mama yangu kutoka kwa mtu asiyejulikana nayo ingenisikitisha.

    Nadhani Mjaluo senior aliharibu kukikimbia kitoto Barack. Leo hii tungekuwa na pride ya kusema Barack alipata malezi na utamaduni wa Kiafrika.

    Waafrika tusishangilie saaana mwanetu wa kuchangia mbegu alivyokuja kuwa Mkuu. Barack hayuko proud saaaaana ma Mjaluo senior!
     
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    Nyani Ngabu Platinum Member

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    Umenikamata kivipi tena braza?
     
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    Kuhani JF-Expert Member

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    Nimemaanisha nimekupata.

    Ni lugha za mitaani. Samahani.
     
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    Some in the black community excoriated Bill Cosby when he aired out similar dirty laundry......
     
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    Kuhani JF-Expert Member

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    Inasikitisha, kwa sababu ni Mababa Weusi ndio tunaongoza kukimbia watoto.
     
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    deserving is just a problem of history?
     
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    "Dear Mama"

    You are appreciated

    [Verse One: 2Pac]

    When I was young me and my mama had beef
    Seventeen years old kicked out on the streets
    Though back at the time, I never thought I'd see her face
    Ain't a woman alive that could take my mama's place
    Suspended from school; and scared to go home, I was a fool
    with the big boys, breakin all the rules
    I shed tears with my baby sister
    Over the years we was poorer than the other little kids
    And even though we had different daddy's, the same drama
    When things went wrong we'd blame mama
    I reminice on the stress I caused, it was hell
    Huggin on my mama from a jail cell
    And who'd think in elementary?
    Heeey! I see the penitentiary, one day
    And runnin from the police, that's right
    Mama catch me, put a whoopin to my backside
    And even as a crack fiend, mama
    You always was a black queen, mama
    I finally understand
    for a woman it ain't easy tryin to raise a man
    You always was committed
    A poor single mother on welfare, tell me how ya did it
    There's no way I can pay you back
    But the plan is to show you that I understand
    You are appreciated

    [Chorus: Reggie Green & "Sweet Franklin" w/ 2Pac]

    Lady...
    Don't cha know we love ya? Sweet lady
    Dear mama
    Place no one above ya, sweet lady
    You are appreciated
    Don't cha know we love ya?

    [second and third chorus, "And dear mama" instead of "Dear mama"]

    [Verse Two: 2Pac]

    Now ain't nobody tell us it was fair
    No love from my daddy cause the coward wasn't there
    He passed away and I didn't cry, cause my anger
    wouldn't let me feel for a stranger
    They say I'm wrong and I'm heartless, but all along
    I was lookin for a father he was gone
    I hung around with the Thugs, and even though they sold drugs
    They showed a young brother love
    I moved out and started really hangin
    I needed money of my own so I started slangin
    I ain't guilty cause, even though I sell rocks
    It feels good puttin money in your mailbox
    I love payin rent when the rent's due
    I hope ya got the diamond necklace that I sent to you
    Cause when I was low you was there for me
    And never left me alone because you cared for me
    And I could see you comin home after work late
    You're in the kitchen tryin to fix us a hot plate
    Ya just workin with the scraps you was given
    And mama made miracles every Thanksgivin
    But now the road got rough, you're alone
    You're tryin to raise two bad kids on your own
    And there's no way I can pay you back
    But my plan is to show you that I understand
    You are appreciated

    [Chorus]

    [Verse Three: 2Pac]

    Pour out some liquor and I reminsce, cause through the drama
    I can always depend on my mama
    And when it seems that I'm hopeless
    You say the words that can get me back in focus
    When I was sick as a little kid
    To keep me happy there's no limit to the things you did
    And all my childhood memories
    Are full of all the sweet things you did for me
    And even though I act craaazy
    I gotta thank the Lord that you made me
    There are no words that can express how I feel
    You never kept a secret, always stayed real
    And I appreciate, how you raised me
    And all the extra love that you gave me
    I wish I could take the pain away
    If you can make it through the night there's a brighter day
    Everything will be alright if ya hold on
    It's a struggle everyday, gotta roll on
    And there's no way I can pay you back
    But my plan is to show you that I understand
    You are appreciated

    [Chorus]

    Sweet lady
    And dear mama

    Dear mama
    Lady [3X]


    [Thanks to www.raulmora@msn.com, dikkevetteboer@hotmail.com for correcting these lyrics]

    [ www.azlyrics.com ]
     
  16. NaimaOmari

    NaimaOmari JF-Expert Member

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    See .. your are taking this personal ... huyu anatetea wanyonge ... and reminding fathers of their responsibility not because he is a victim but because its a common phenomenon today .... a lot of children are suffering ... what's bad with that statement ... whatever McCain did he may be your hero but not mine ... am looking at someone who is concerned by all categories of people in society and if that is what makes me happy then fine .... thats me otherwise you should try to convince me to change my mind about Obama .. and not giving me that snorting stuff of yours
     
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