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Omar Nundu is purposely misleading - on Wikileaks Airbus revelations

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Mzee Mwanakijiji, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    6th January 2011

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    Transport Minister, Omari Nundu


    Transport Minister, Omari Nundu yesterday described revelations by Wikileaks on corruption allegations in the Air Tanzania's jetliner-purchase deal as illogical and untrue.

    "The revelations do not make sense…they are totally untrue," said the minister in an exclusive interview with The Guardian yesterday.

    The minister reacting two days after whistle blower website, Wikileaks revealed massive corruption allegations that surrounded a multi-billion airplanes-purchase deal for Air Tanzania (ATCL) four years ago.

    According to the information sourced from US diplomatic cables, there were elements of corruption in ATCL's plan of purchasing ten airplanes - in a government concerted efforts to revamp the national flag carrier.

    In his response, the transport minister said although he was not in the ministry at the time the processes were being implemented, "simple logic would tell you that Wikileaks revelations are not true."

    "It does not make any sense to say Air Tanzania, which is financially constrained, could involve itself in negotiations for the purchase of airplanes worth billions of shillings. I was not there when these deals were being negotiated, but I know that even by that time, ATCL had no money to embark on large-scale purchasing," noted minister Nundu.

    He said Wikileaks corruption allegations in the deal were "illogical" because they cannot be proved, as ATCL had not managed to purchase new plane since then.

    "It would have been easier to substantiate the validity of Wikileaks allegations if ATCL had acquired new airplanes. But Air Tanzania does not possess any new plane…that's why I can say with certainty that the Wikileaks allegations are invalid, illogical and untrue, since they cannot be proved," said Nundu.

    The minister did not disclose specific measures for revamping ATCL saying he was working on a holistic approach to improve aviation sector in the country.

    He said his ministry was stepping up strategic measures to assist local and foreign investors enter the aviation sector with a view to improving services delivery.

    The country, he said, needed investors, insisting that in these moves, the government would not mind if the investors were foreigners and locals.

    "What we want are serious investors who will operate under the country's aviation framework, policies, laws and principles…it could be foreign-owned airlines, locally-owned or joint ventures, but committed investors who would be ready to operate under our aviation systems," explained the minister.

    Zitto Kabwe, former chairman of a parliamentary committee overseeing public organizations accounts, expressing ignorance of the purchase details, said although Air Tanzania was a public firm, its audited reports had not been submitted to the responsible parliamentary committee for the last five years.

    According to the Kigoma North MP, the parliamentary committee could not access its audited reports because of certain factors -one being that the national flag carrier was restructured in 2006 and later on, a special task force appointed to shape its operations.

    "Because of these factors, the parliamentary committee on public institutions did not manage to get audited reports of ATCL operations," said Kabwe.

    "On that basis, I cannot make any comment regarding suspected corrupt dealings in the processes of purchasing the said aircraft by Air Tanzania as revealed by Wikileaks. I cannot do that from a parliamentary perspective; I cannot do that from personal perceptive, because of I was not aware of these dealings," noted Kabwe.

    "I am still following up these unfolding issues and will comment later on," he added.

    "If an MP like me is not aware of this latest ATCL scam, ordinary people cannot understand anything," he said.

    On Monday, Wikileaks revealed diplomatic cables complaining of favouritism and suspicion of corruption in the manner Air Tanzania Company Limited (ATCL) went about shopping for jetliners for its ageing fleet four years ago.

    According to the cables, carried in the New York Times of Sunday, January 2 this year the US Embassy in Dar es Salaam fighting for Boeing then said: "As Air Tanzania shops for new airplanes for its ageing fleet, we remain troubled by separate press reports, quoting Air Tanzania leadership and most recently the Minister of Infrastructure that a decision has been made in favour of Airbus."


    SOURCE: THE GUARDIAN

    My Take:
    I can speak with absolutely certainty that there is enough evidence supporting the US's diplomatic cable on the airbus issue. I hope he will reconsider restating his ministry's position before this evidence becomes public next week on JF's own expose!!
     
  2. Abdulhalim

    Abdulhalim JF-Expert Member

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    ANother waziri kibogoyo wa JK after the likes of Kombani et al..

    Tuhuma haziwi kweli kwa sababu yeye hakuwepo na kwa sababu ndege hazijanunuliwa! Mashuzi matupu.
     
  3. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Sijui tumpe muda ajisahihishe au tumuoneshe kuwa amekurupuka bila kuchunguza kwa karibu; anafikiri kweli US wangeweza kusema walichokisema pasipo kuwa na uhakika?
     
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    another JK cabinet
     
  5. Safari_ni_Safari

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    In his response, the transport minister said although he was not in the ministry at the time the processes were being implemented, "simple logic would tell you that Wikileaks revelations are not true."

    "It does not make any sense to say Air Tanzania, which is financially constrained, could involve itself in negotiations for the purchase of airplanes worth billions of shillings. I was not there when these deals were being negotiated, but I know that even by that time, ATCL had no money to embark on large-scale purchasing," noted minister Nundu.


    Sasa mikutano yote ile kati ya Mattaka,Chenge na Ubalozi ilikuwa uwongo pia? Huyu jamaa sawasawa kweli kichwani? Kwani si serikali ndiyo iliyotaka kununua hizo ndege kwa niaba ya ATCL? Sijui viazi kama hawa wanapataje nyadhifa
     
  6. Abdulhalim

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    Huenda hata hajasoma hiyo taarifa anayoi-respond..sasa nchi inaposimamiwa na watu muflisi kama hawa kwene sekta muhimu kama mawasiliano nywele inabidi zitusisimke..

    Hii ndio timu ya ushindi wa JK..sisi ndio washindwa.
     
  7. Elli

    Elli JF-Expert Member

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    Tumpe muda kidogo, utaskia akisema hayo yalikua mawazo yake na sio msimamo wa serikali, wajinga kweli hawa
     
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    Unajua sasa hawa jamaa wameshikwa kila upande... wamepanic wanatapatapa. Kama hakuwepo si afadhali angekaa kimya ingesaidia. Kwa nini anakurupuka ...eti simple logic, anadhani hii ni mathematics! Looh... MMM msubirishe kidogo, waache wajichanganye kama kawaida yao kwanza.
     
  9. SMU

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    "Hayo ni maoni yake na sio msimamo wa serikali"....hii ndio Tz!
     
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    Nadhani na haya majina si mazuri kuwapa watoto wetu....NUNDU?
     
  11. Rose1980

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    hahah hahaah!!
    dah nimecheka!!!!!
     
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    Wakati Wamarekani wanasikitika na kuvuja kwa taarifa sisi tunakanusha au kuwashika ugoni wikileaks. ajabu na kweli
     
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    Huyu ni waziri wa aina yake sana,hana utaratibu wa kufanya utafiti yeye anakurupuka tu.Mfano ni suala la kusitisha mkataba wa Kampuni ya Majembe.Alifanya utafiti kiasi gani?mbona watz wengi hapa Bongo walikuwa wakiwakubali Majembe na usafiri ulikuwa umenza kidogo kuwa na hadhi hapa mjini?Sasa katurudisha hukohuko.Rubbish.
     
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    Haya mambo ya Tanzania yanaweza kuksababishia magonjwa usiyoyafahamu, kila siku is a joker after a joker. And yet hawajamaa unakuta wana misiviiiiii mirefu mirefu and this is their line of thinking.
     
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    Am I dreaming?! MAJEMBE? Give us a break maana nao walikuwa wana abuse sana hiyo nafasi waliyokuwa nayo.
    Can u imagine Majembe guys wanatishia kupiga watu barabarani na wengine kujifanya JUDOKA, SENSEI sijui nini!?
    Good riddance..labda kama ni mji mwingine nje ya DSM.
     
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    Huyu huenda alikurupushwa hata hajui mzizi wa ishu yenyewe. Na pengine anadhani watz wengi wapo gizani basi we will give him a free ride. Ndio what we get for the next 5 years.
     
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    he is just covering for his superiors' asses
     
  18. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Kama hatajisahihisha leo na weeekend hii tutamsaidia ajisahihishe j'tatu. Inshallah.
     
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    Mwanakijiji nakuaminia. Sidhani kama atataka kujisahihisha. Tusubiri J3.
     
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    haishiii mjini huyo... Angewajua majembe asingesema aliyosema
     
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