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North Korea Vs South Korea: A War in the making?

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by BAK, May 25, 2010.

  1. BAK

    BAK JF-Expert Member

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    North Korea 'severs all ties' with Seoul

    BBC News Online

    Page last updated at 16:22 GMT, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:22 UK


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    Pyongyang said all ties, including communications, would be cut
    North Korea is to cut all relations with South Korea, Pyongyang's official news agency reports.
    KCNA said the North was also expelling all South Korean workers from a jointly-run factory north of the border.
    The move comes after an international report blamed North Korea for sinking a South Korean warship.
    Pyongyang denies it torpedoed the Cheonan near the inter-Korean maritime border on 26 March, killing 46 sailors.
    South Korea says it plans to refer North Korea to the UN Security Council, and is seeking a unified international response to the incident.
    'Puppet army gangs'
    Tuesday's KCNA reports announcing the severing of all ties - including communications - said the North was also banning South Korean ships and planes from its territorial waters and airspace.
    Analysis

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    Jonathan Marcus
    BBC Diplomatic Correspondent
    Within a matter of days relations between the two Koreas have returned to the freezer.
    The diplomatic goal now will be to ensure that a renewed cold war on the Korean peninsula does not generate into a hot conflict.
    The United States is firmly backing South Korea but US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - who has been in the Chinese capital Beijing as events unfolded - has failed to extract any public criticism of North Korea from the Chinese authorities.
    Her hope will be that in private Beijing will tell Pyongyang in no uncertain terms that it should do nothing to inflame this crisis further.

    "The Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea... formally declares that from now on it will put into force the resolute measures to totally freeze the inter-Korean relations, totally abrogate the agreement on non-aggression between the North and the South and completely halt the inter-Korean cooperation," KCNA reported.
    Pyongyang has also accused South Korea of trespassing in its waters.
    In a warning to South Korea's navy, a newsreader on North Korean state television (KRT) said: "South Korean puppet army gangs have been recently trespassing our territorial waters without restraint.
    "They have conducted provocative acts which severely irritate us, by making dozens of warships intrude upon our waters from 14 to 24 May."
    The newsreader said that if this "deliberate provocation" continued, the North would "put into force practical military measures to defend its waters".
    North and South Korea are technically still at war after the Korean conflict ended without an armistice in 1953.
    While there were hopes of a reconciliation a few years ago, relations have been deteriorating since then and now appear to be at their lowest point in a decade, correspondents say.
    Provocation
    Amid the rising tensions, Seoul announced on Sunday it was ending trade relations with the North in response to the sinking of the Cheonan.
    South Korea has also said it will drop propaganda leaflets into the North to tell people about the sinking, as well as setting up giant electronic billboards to flash messages.
    ATTACKS BLAMED ON NORTH








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    • Jan 1967 - South Korean warship attacked near border, 39 sailors killed
    • Jan 1968 - presidential palace in Seoul stormed, 71 killed
    • Oct 1983 - Rangoon hotel used by South Korean president bombed, 21 killed
    • Nov 1987 - South Korean airliner bombed, 115 killed
    • Mar 2010 - Cheonan warship attacked, 46 sailors killed
    How the ship was sunkS Koreans divided over the NorthTimeline: North Korean attacksQ&A: Cheonan sinking
    It has resumed propaganda broadcasts to the North, playing radio programmes that will soon be broadcast via border loudspeakers.
    The US, which has thousands of troops based in South Korea, has backed Seoul, condemning the incident and confirming late on Monday that it will hold joint anti-submarine naval exercises with South Korean forces.
    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said the US and China must work together to "fashion an effective response" to the sinking of the Cheonan.
    Speaking in Beijing, Mrs Clinton said maintaining peace on the Korean peninsula was "a shared responsibility" between the countries.
    China has called for all sides to show restraint, adding its voice to calls for international co-operation over the incident.
    Vice Foreign Minister Cui Tiankai said Beijing was "ready to work together with the US and other parties and continue to stay in close touch on the situation on the Korean peninsula".
    On Tuesday Wu Dawei, China's special representative for Korean affairs, arrived in Seoul for talks with Foreign Minister Yu Myung-hwan.
    Analysts say China's attitude is key, because it holds a veto in the Security Council and has in the past been reluctant to impose tough measures on Pyongyang.
    Mrs Clinton is also due in Seoul for talks on Wednesday.
     
  2. StaffordKibona

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    Mimi naamini kuwa kuanzisha vita na Korea kaskazini ni balaa la muda mrefu sana
     
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    damn JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu, Korea ya kaskazini (and its allies) na korea ya kusini(and its allies) bado ziko vitani mpaka hivi leo. Kilichofanyika miaka ya hamsini ni makubaliano ya kusitisha mapigano (truce).
     
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    Naiona kama Korea Kaskazini mchokozi sana!
    • Jan 1967 - South Korean warship attacked near border, 39 sailors killed
    • Jan 1968 - presidential palace in Seoul stormed, 71 killed
    • Oct 1983 - Rangoon hotel used by South Korean president bombed, 21 killed
    • Nov 1987 - South Korean airliner bombed, 115 killed
    • Mar 2010 - Cheonan warship attacked, 46 sailors killed
    Tuache atwangwe tu! Vita nazo zina faida zake.
     
  5. Ruge Opinion

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    Lakini kuna ushahidi gani huo ambao hawautoi hadharani kuwa ni Korea ya Kaskazini ndiyo iliyozamisha hiyo meli ya Korea ya Kusini? Hii inaweza kuwa another Weapons of Mass Destruction waliyomsingizia Saadam Hussein ili wapate fursa ya kuanzisha vita ya kuiteka Iraq. Mimi naamini Wamarekani are not beyond sinking their ally's warship ili wapate pretext ya kuanzisha vita dhidi ya Korea ya Kaskazini? Vita kwa sasa hivi ndiyo main stabilisation factor ya siasa na uchumi wa Marekani. Zikiisha hizi vita Wamarekani wata-focus ndani ya nchi na hiyo ni hatari kwa wanasiasa na watawala (wenye mitaji) wa Marekani.
     
  6. Ami

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    "The international community must respond in the growing crisis over the sinking of a South Korean warship", the US says."

    Maneno hayo yamesemwa na bi Hillary Clinton,waziri wa mambo ya nje wa Marekani mwishoni mwa ziara yake nchini Korea Kusini.Akaendelea kusema kuhusiana na meli ya kivita ya Korea Kusini iliyozamishwa hapo Machi 26,2010 kuwa:

    "There was an overwhelming evidence that North Korea was to blame".

    Hakuishia hapo bali alisema:

    "This was an unacceptable provocation by North Korea and the international community has a responsibility and a duty to respond,"

    Pamoja na shutuma hizo Korea ya kaskazini imekanusha vikali kuwa ndiyo iliyohusika na kuzama kwa meli hiyo,nayo imeahidi itajibu kwa kulipiza kisasi kwa shambulio lolote litakaloelekezwa kwake.

    Tangu mwanzoni mwa wiki hii tayari Marekani imekuwa na pirika za mazoezi ya kivita pamoja na S.Korea kama ni matayarisho pindi vita na N.Korea vikitokea.
     
  7. Ami

    Ami JF-Expert Member

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    Hawa watu hawachoki kuchokoza wenzao halafu wanajidai kuwazuga watu kwamba ni tatizo la jumuiya ya kimataifa.Vita walivyoanzisha havijaisha wanatafuta vyengine !.Mara hii wacha waende wenyewe wakapigane na mbaya wao;Korea Kaskazini.
     
  8. Mpeni sifa Yesu

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    kuanzisha vita na korea kaskazini wala si balaa la muda mrefu, kwasababu korea kusini imewazidi nguvu,technology, pesa na kila kitu korea kaskazini mbali sana....tatizo langu ni kwamba, wananchi wa korea kaskazini ndo watapasha shida na kuumia..si unajua mafahari wakipigana nyasi ndo zinaumia, tena nyasi zenyewe ni wanawake na watoto, wazee na wasiojiweza....

    ni ajabu sana kuona hao wote ni wakorea lakini wanakuwa na uhasama wa ajabu kiasi icho. si wangeungana tu jamani?...korea kusini uchumi wake uko juu sana, na pindi watakapotia mguu kwenye vita, Marekani lazima iingilie kati kuwasapoti....korea kaskazini wana kiburi sana, na hawafai kabisa. ni hatari kwa dunia ya ugaidi kwasababu, kwani kuna ushahidi mwingi tu kuuza silaha kwa waasi kadhaa, na wanaweza kuuza silaha hata kwa al quaeda kama wakifanikisha nuke yao...wakipigana, pamoja na kwamba nchi nyingi zitaumia kiuchumi, lakini north korea ndo wataumia sana kiuchumi,na watajilaumu kwanini walichokoza. sisapoti vita hata ivyo, ila kama ikitokea, sitalaumu kwasababu korea ni moja ya nchi ambazo nafikiri zinatakiwa kuchukuliwa jicho la tofauti, pamoja na iran, libya na sudan. nina uhuru kuexpress myself, iwe ni sahihi, iwe si sahihi, huo ndo uhuru...I stand to be corrected!
     
  9. Ami

    Ami JF-Expert Member

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    Uwezekano mkubwa ni kuwa hii meli ilizamishwa na Marekani yenyewe kutafuta sababu ya kuipigana na N.korea.Hili ni taifa la wachokozi.Ndio maana ripoti kabla haijatolewa walikuwa wapo katika harakati na S.KOREA
    Sikio la kufa halisikii dawa.Haya mambo ya njama za kutaka vita ndio sumu ya ubabe wa Marekani na haiambiliki.Uwezekano wa hivi vita kutopiganwa pia upo lakini ndivyo ubabe wake unavyochosha watu.
    Kwa hakika vita vya Iraq pamoja na kuuliwa Saddam havijaisha na wala hakuna lengo lolote lililofikiwa,si kukamatwa silaha za maangamizi wala demokrasia.Wanachi wa Pakistan ndio wanazidi kuwa wakali kwa Marekani.Ajabu zaidi ni Afghanistan kadri majeshi yanavyoongezwa ndivyo Taliban wanavyokuja juu.Na kwanini imeshindikana kuwanyamazisha!
    Watu wanyonge wanaodhulumiwa hupata msaada kutoka kwa Mungu kupambana na jitu jabari dhalimu na kulishinda.
     
  10. StaffordKibona

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    Vita Korea ya kaskazini kaazi kwelikweli
     
  11. Ruge Opinion

    Ruge Opinion JF-Expert Member

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    Huu ni uthibitisho kwamba Rais wa Marekani ni figurehead tu. Hana uwezo wa kubadili mwelekeo wa sera za Marekani. Obama pamoja na rhetoric zake wakati wa kampeni zake, hivi ana tofauti gani na George Bush? Mimi siioni labda rangi ya mwili.
     
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    :angry:
     
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    Marekani nayo imezidi sasa.Hivi kwa mfano ikitokea misunderstanding kati ya uganda na Kenya au Tanzania Wamarekani watakuja kulipa nguvu Taifa moja wapo kati ya hayo au marekani huwa anasaidia nchi yeyote ile ambayo haian maelewano mazuri na adui wa Marekani?Maana sioni sababu ya Mrekani kungilia suala hili kabisa,lakini yeye ndo amekuwa wa kwanza km iliyozamishwa ni meli yake vile.Kaaazi kwelikweli.Haya sisi yetu macho.
     
  14. Mwana wa Mungu

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    yaani ulikuwa hujajua hilo mkuu. obama ni symbol tu, wanaoongoza nchi ni wengineeee
     
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    North Korea v South Korea: Fools rush in

    Sun May 30
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    Both North and South Korea have begun preparations for war in a week where relations between the two countries broke down to the worst they have been since the Korean War of 1950-53.

    The latest confrontation came about when a South Korean navy ship was sunk by a torpedo on 26th March, killing 46 South Korean sailors.

    North Korea is denying all responsibility for the sinking of the ship but the evidence is mounting to the contrary. A fleet of North Korean submarines left its port 2-3 days before the attack took place and investigators from five countries concluded that it was a North Korean torpedo that sank the warship.

    In response, the South announced a series of reprisals including a trade cut-off and is seeking United Nations Security censure of the North, but for that to happen it needs to convince veto-wielding member China, an ally of North Korea, that the North was indeed responsible for the sinking of the ship.

    Russia, which fought alongside the North during the Korean War, is demanding to see proof that it was responsible before it takes any action, a sensible approach all things considered. After all, what did we learn from the Iraq War? If you're planning to go in, make sure you can justify it. Seven years on we're still waiting for those weapons of mass destruction to turn up.

    North Korea is hardly helping its own cause, mind, assuming peace is the country's preferential outcome. It this week threatened ‘all-out war' against the South if it breaches established water territories.

    Something doesn't quite sit right about this to me. If North Korea wanted to secretly attack South Korea, why would it use torpedoes which could easily be identified as its own? And if it did in fact launch the torpedo, why would it bother denying it? North Korea, as we've seen in the past week, is not the most timid of countries, so it strikes me as strange that the latter could be the case.

    The next week will be vital to the future of the Koreas, where China and Russia hold the key to the outcome. If China and Russia back North Korea as they have done in the past, it will give the North the confidence to take on the South and the United States, as it did in the Korean War. If China and/or Russia don't back North Korea (they are unlikely to back the South, but could remain impartial) then the North surely must desist with its aggressive stance or risk being wiped out.

     
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    As usual bull shit going on all over the world..................
     
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    China has ruled out a stopover by U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who had hoped to make improved military ties with Beijing the centerpiece of his trip to Asia this week.

    Gates leaves Wednesday for an around-the-world trip that will take him to countries in Asia and Europe, but aides said China has explained that this is not a convenient time.

    Beijing didn't elaborate, but China leaders were angered by the Obama administration's recent decision to go ahead with arms sales to Taiwan worth more than $6 billion.

    Gates will spend the weekend meeting with defense officials from every other major Asian power during a security conference in Singapore.

    Written by ANNE GEARAN |June / 2/2010| [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG] AFP/File – South Korean intelligence officials are investigating an army general on suspicion of leaking military …





    1 hr 36 mins ago
    SEOUL (AFP) – South Korean intelligence officials are investigating a two-star army general on suspicion of leaking to North Korea, a report said Friday.
    The general, identified only as Kim, had allegedly leaked classified information related to military management and operations, Yonhap news agency said.
    Military and intelligence officials declined to confirm the report.
    The investigation came after arrested two South Koreans Thursday on charges of handing over military secrets to North Korea, Yonhap said.
    The two included a former South Korean spy, identified as Park, who was recruited by North Korea while working in it said.
    Park acquired military secrets through the general, handed them over to a North Korean agent in China, and received an unspecified amount of money, Yonhap said.
    Investigators will try to determine if Kim and Park had additional accomplices, it said.


    S.Korean army general accused of spying for North - Yahoo! News

    Hawa South Korean na North Korea hawana Muda mrefu Kupigana mimi nahisi kwa Mawazo yangu maana wanachukiana sana
     
  19. bona

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    the world is overpopulated so lets wish for this to happen for some population control!
     
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    Unajua mie hizi nchi za korea huwa zinanichanganya sana, nilikua nafikiri korea yenye kiburi ni ile tajiri, kumbe wapi bwana. Wale masikini ndo wenye kiburi duuuu.

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