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Ndivyo Nyerere alivyo tudanganya-personal conflicts, war for all!

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  1. Aaronium

    Aaronium Senior Member

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    [h=1]Hebu tutizamane tena vizuri, was the Uganda/Tanzania war necessary for wa-Tanganyika? je, Zanzibar walishiriki? from Wikipedia!


    Uganda–Tanzania War[/h]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    [TH]Date[/TH]
    [TD]October 30, 1978 – April 11, 1979[/TD]
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    [TH]Location[/TH]
    [TD]Uganda[/TD]
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    [TH]Result[/TH]
    [TD]Tanzanian victory; overthrow of Idi Amin in Uganda[/TD]
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    [TD][​IMG] Uganda
    [​IMG] Libya
    [​IMG] PLO[SUP][1][/SUP][/TD]
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    [​IMG] UNLA[/TD]
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    [TD]Uganda:
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    [TD]70,000+ Ugandan Army troops
    3,000 Libyan troops
    200+ Palestinian troops[/TD]
    [TD]100,000 Tanzanians
    6,000 Ugandan resistance troops[/TD]
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    [TD]~1,500 Ugandans
    ~500 Libyans[SUP][2][/SUP][/TD]
    [TD]~1,000[SUP][2][/SUP][/TD]
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    This article is part of a series[HR][/HR][/TD]
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    [TH="bgcolor: #EEEEEE, colspan: 2, align: center"]Chronology[/TH]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Early history (before 1894)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]British rule (1894–1962)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Early independence (1962–71)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Under Idi Amin (1971–79)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Recent history (1979–present)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Expulsion of Asians (1972)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]History of Buganda[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Military history of Uganda[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Uganda–Tanzania War (1978–79)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Ugandan Bush War (1981–86)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]LRA insurgency (1987–present)[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: right"][HR][/HR]Uganda Portal
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Scramble for Africa[/TD]
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    [TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]Heligoland-Zanzibar Treaty[/TD]
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    The Uganda–Tanzania War (usually referred to in Uganda as the Liberation War) was fought between Uganda and Tanzania in 1978–1979, and led to the overthrow of Idi Amin's regime. Idi Amin's forces included thousands of troops sent by Muammar Gaddafi, and some Palestiniansupport.
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    [h=2][edit]Events leading to the war[/h]Relations between Tanzania and Uganda had been strained for several years before the war started. After Amin seized power in a military coup in 1971, the Tanzanian leader Julius Nyerere offered sanctuary to Uganda's ousted president, Milton Obote. Obote was joined by 20,000 refugees fleeing Amin's attempts to wipe out opposition. A year later, a group of exiles based in Tanzania attempted, unsuccessfully, to invade Uganda and remove Amin. Amin blamed Nyerere for backing and arming his enemies. The relationship between Uganda and Tanzania remained strained for many years.
    In early October 1978, dissident troops ambushed Amin at the presidential lodge in Kampala, but he escaped with his family in a helicopter.[SUP][3][/SUP]This was during a period when the number of Amin's close associates had shrunk significantly, and he faced increasing dissent from within Uganda. When General Mustafa Adrisi, Amin's Vice President, was injured in a suspicious car accident, troops loyal to Adrisi (and other soldiers who were disgruntled for other reasons) mutinied. Amin sent troops against the mutineers (which included members of the elite Simba Battalion), some of whom had fled across the Tanzanian border.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] The rebellion spilled over into Tanzania, where Tanzania-based anti-Amin exiles joined the fighting against Amin's troops.
    Uganda declared a state of war against Tanzania, and sent troops to invade and annex part of the Kagera region of Tanzania, which Amin claimed belonged to Uganda.
    [h=2][edit]The war[/h]Nyerere mobilized the Tanzania People's Defence Force and counterattacked. In a few weeks, the Tanzanian army was expanded from less than 40,000 troops to over 100,000 including members of the police, prison services, national service, and the militia. The Tanzanians were joined by several anti-Amin groups consisting of Ugandan exiles, who at a conference in Moshi (Moshi Conference) had united as the Uganda National Liberation Army (UNLA). These included Kikosi Maalum commanded by Tito Okello and David Oyite Ojok, FRONASA commanded byYoweri Museveni, and Save Uganda Movement commanded by Akena p'Ojok, William Omaria, and Ateker Ejalu.
    The Tanzanian Army acquired a Russian BM Katyusha rocket launcher (known in Uganda as saba saba), with which they started to fire on targets in Uganda.[SUP][4][/SUP] The Ugandan Army retreated steadily. Libya's Muammar Gaddafi sent 2,500 troops to aid Amin, equipped with T-54 and T-55 tanks, BTR APCs, BM-21 Katyusha MRLs, artillery, MiG-21s, and a Tu-22 bomber.[SUP][5][/SUP] However the Libyans soon found themselves on the front line, while Ugandan Army units were using supply trucks to carry their newly plundered wealth in the opposite direction.[SUP][6][/SUP]
    The Libyan troops were a mix of regular Libyan Army units, People's Militia, and sub-Saharan Africans of the Islamic Legion, a further force created by Libya for this type of expeditionary mission.[SUP][5][/SUP] The Tanzanians, joined by UNLA dissidents, moved north for Kampala but halted at the vast deep-water swamp north of Lukaya. The Tanzanians decided to send the 201st Brigade directly across the causeway over the swamp while the better-quality 208th Brigade skirted the western edge of the swamp as an alternative in case the causeway was blocked or destroyed. A planned attack by a brigade-sized Libyan force with fifteen T-55s, a dozen APCs, and BM-21 MRLs, intended to reach Masaka, instead collided with the Tanzanian force at Lukaya on 10 March and sent the 201st Brigade reeling backwards in disarray. However, a Tanzanian counter-attack on the night of 11–12 March from two directions, involving a reorganised 201st Brigade attacking from the south and the 208th Brigade from the north-west, was successful, with many Libyan units, including the militia, breaking and retreating at a run. Libyan casualties were reported at 200 plus another 200 allied Ugandans.
    Tanzanian and UNLA forces met little resistance after the Battle of Lukuya and carried on west toward Kampala, first taking the Entebbe airfield after some fighting, and then taking Kampala itself on 10 April 1979. Few Ugandan or Libyan units gave much resistance, and Pollack says the greatest problem for the Tanzanian troops was their own lack of maps of the city.[SUP][5][/SUP] Amin fled, first to Libya and later to Saudi Arabia. The Libyan forces retreated to Jinja and then were repatriated finally through Kenya and Ethiopia. The Tanzanian army remained in Uganda to maintain peace while the UNLF (the political wing of the UNLA) organized elections to return the country to civilian rule.
    The Tanzanian Government struck and distributed a campaign medal, known as the Nishani ya Vita. The obverse bears the inscriptions Vita-1978-1979 (top) andTanzania (bottom). The reverse is plain.
    [h=2][edit]Aftermath[/h][h=3][edit]Uganda[/h]Main article: Uganda since 1979
    The period following the ousting of Amin proved to be a time of intense competition and fighting for power among different groups made up of political and ethnic rivals.Yusuf Lule had been installed as president by Tanzania. In June 1979, following a dispute over the extent of presidential powers, the National Consultative Commission(NCC), which was then the supreme governing body of the UNLF, replaced Lule with Godfrey Binaisa. Binaisa was himself removed on 12 May 1980 by the Military Commission, a powerful organ of the UNLF headed by the Paulo Muwanga, and whose deputy was Yoweri Museveni (then leader of Uganda Patriotic Movement). The country was then led by the Presidential Commission of Uganda with among others Paulo Muwanga, Yoweri Museveni, Oyite Ojok and Tito Okello. The Presidential Commission governed Uganda until the December 1980 general elections which were won by Milton Obote's Uganda Peoples Congress. The elections were bitterly disputed. Yoweri Museveni alleged electoral fraud and declared an armed rebellion against the government of Obote, plunging the country into the civil war which came to be known as the Ugandan Bush War.
    [h=3][edit]Tanzania[/h]Tanzania, on the other hand, received no help from other countries in the Organization of African Unity, which had denounced Tanzania's invasion (and for its role as a backer of the 1977 coup in the Seychelles which brought France-Albert René to power) as a breach of respect for national sovereignty. As a result, the government inDar es Salaam had to foot the bill for the invasion and subsequent peacekeeping role from its own coffers, further driving the country into poverty; Tanzania would not fully recover from the cost of the war until Uganda paid back Tanzania's debt in 2007.[SUP][7][/SUP]
    [h=2][edit]References[/h]
    [h=2][edit]Further reading[/h]
     
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    Marytina JF-Expert Member

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    kwa hiyo Nyerere alipata personal faida gani kwenye hiyo VITA???
    usiandike kama hayawai au punguani BOLD NI PERSONAL FAIDA GANI ALIZOZIPATA??????????
     
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    Kwa statement hiyo hapo juu kama wewe ndiye ungekuwa Amiri Jeshi Mkuu ungelifanyaje?



     
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    hivi tulilipwa sh ngapi na Uganda hiyo 2007?! Estimates za vita hiyo ni Dola za Kimarekani 500,000,000/-...
     
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    Ahsante sana Mkuu...yaani kuna watu wamenuia kumchafua Mwalimu kwa kila namna. Yeye kama jemedari Mkuu na Kiongozi wa nchi akae kimya bila kuchukua hatua yeyote wakati nduli kavamia maeneo ndani ya nchi yetu na kuwaua Watanganyika na pia kuwapora mali zao na kutangaza hilo eneo aliloliteka si la Tanganyika bali ni la Uganda, halafu eti Mwalimu anyamaze kimya tu!!!!. Mwalimu hakuwa na uroho wa utajiri wa haraka haraka kama walivyo akina Mwinyi, Mkapa na Kikwete aliridhika na kidogo alichokuwa nacho na hivyo hakufaidika chochote na ile vita. Aliamua nchi iingie vitani ili kwanza kulinda mipaka ya chi yetu na heshima yake na pia kumtia adabu yule nduli ambaye alishawahi mara nyingi kuingiza ndege zake za kivita na kuwaweka roho juu wananchi wa maeneo ya Kagera na Mwanza.

     
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    Askari Kanzu JF-Expert Member

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    Wakuu isije ikawa tunajibizana na mtu ambaye wakati huo alikuwa hata hajazaliwa. Kwake yeye vita vya Kagera ni simulizi za Wikipedia na Mwl. Nyerere ni mzuka flani ivi!
     
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    Mutambukamalogo JF-Expert Member

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    Huyu mtoa mada nahisi anafikiri kwa kutumia masaburi. Amini angeachiwa angeona utamu na angeweza kutugonga mpaka Dar! Angefuatilia vizuri angepata moja ya hotuba aliyotoa Fashisti Idi Amimi akiwa pale Kagera huku akiwa amesimamisha bendera ya Uganda(TBC na kitengo cha habari JWTZ wanayo). Alisema kwa majigambo kwamba anataka apige mpaka aje kusimika bendera yake Dar es salaam. Mtoa mada usi rely hizo wikipedia tu kwani hata vyanzo vyake vingi ni vya walewale ambao wakati wa vita walikuwa wana mtukuza wanampa kichwa na kumsaidia Amin. Kumbuka wakati ule nchi nyingi za Africa zilikuwa zinamuogopa Amin,hata kumkemea tu waliogopa!. Pia wakati ule Amin alikuwa kibaraka mkubwa wa Uingereza na USA. Hata matangazo ya BBC muda wote wakati vita vikiendelea walikuwa wakimpamba Amin. Faida kubwa tuliyopata watanzania kwenye vita hivi ni kuionyesha Dunia kuwa hatutaki kutishwa,kuonewa,kunyanyaswa na kupuuzwa na chizi yeyote au nchi yeyote Duniani. Na hilo tutalitetea kwa gharama yeyote ile,iwe ni gharama ya ki uchumi au hata kumwaga damu!. Spirit hii ndiyo walikuwa nayo kina Mkwawa,Mirambo,Isike,Mputa Gama, Kinjekitile,Nyerere na Mashujaa wetu wengine mpaka leo unaona unakaa kwenye nchi huru huku ukiweza kuandika hayo uliyo andika kwa uhuru.
     
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    Kwa kumsaidia tu huyu kijana nitamwekea ile video ya Amin kule Kagera akisimika bendera ya Uganda ili ashuhudie mwenyewe:hat:
     
  9. Aaronium

    Aaronium Senior Member

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    Ni kweli mnapata hasira sana mnapoambiwa facts! the ugly thing about fucts is, they're very rigid and can't be turned! Nyerere kama mtu mwenye kichwa kikubwa cha sifa, alipenda kuikomboa Africa kutoka kwa wakoloni-this is also a fact, alilipwa kiasi gani cha pesa, it is not a concern right here, lakini wote mliojibu hapa na kuweka lugha chafu mmeshindwa kuziruhusu akili zenu kuwa huru na kufikiria bila hamasa; The fact kwamba majeshi yenye nguvu na sifa, ya Tanzania, yalihusika sana na vita nyingi hapa Afrika tena kwa kujitolea na kutuimia pesa nyingi za wa-TZ, tena basi ninyi mnaohisi kwamba ni wazee kiasi cha kutosha, fikirieni na mfananishe uchumi wa nchi kabla na baada ya vita ile! Nyerere alipenda kuwa na influence katika eneo hili, kama ilivyo Marekani kwa dunia kwa sasa! Nyerere na Obote walikuwa marafiki wa kupindukia, Nyerere alipoomba Umoja wa Nchi huru za Afrika kumkemea Idd Amin walikataa, ask yourself why?.....Nyerere alikuwa na mashushushu nchi zote za Afrika, endeleeni kubisha! Nyerere aliwapa wakati mgumu watu wote waliokuwa na opinion tofauti na za kwake, hata Rais wa sasa na Waziri mkuu mstaafu Lowassa anajua!Nyerere aliombwa awarejeshe watuhumiwa waliohusika na jaribio la kumuua Idd Amin ikulu alikataa hilo hamlijui na wala halitakaa liingie akilini mwenu, mmen'gan'gana na illusions na propaganda za kipindi kile-true information is only that coming from Nyerere! Hata ukijibu kwa matusi na kejeli you will never change this fact: Nani kasema Nyerere ni mzuka, its on your head! katika aliyoyatenda, mema yalikuwa only 50% of all! Ukiwa amiri jeshi mkuu mwenye akili, unaendeleza nchi yako, unaacha kuingilia mambo ya ndani ya nchi zingine, hata kama wanaoumia ni rafiki zako! Kwa nini Americans are crazily vigilant about terrorism? My bet is, uchumi wa TZ ungekuwa cometing na Botswana na South Africa iwapo tusingeingia vitani-This is another fact hamwezi kuipinga! Uganda na Kenya wana-conflict kuhusiana na kisiwa kimoja ktk ziwa Victoria but they never declared war! kama unayo akili yako, ya kufikiria flexibly, soma hii, don't waste your time if you're not a critical reader!
     
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    @Aaronium, punguza jazba!
     
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    Sijui una ufahamu kiasi gani wa mambo! Lakini hata kama Rais wa wakati huo angekuwa darasa la saba angeamua vita kwasababu tayari tulikuwa tumevamiwa. Hoja zako zinaonesha unakusanya taarifa vijiweni, nikuulize kuwa hivi ni nchi ngapi zimekataa kukabidhi watuhumiwa ktk nchi zao lakini hazijavamiwa? Nyerere kukataa kukabidhi watu waliotaka kumuua Amin bado haihalalishi Amin kuivamia Tanzania. Ujiulize kuwa kama Tanzania ndo tulikuwa wakorofi mbona Amin hakusaidiwa na taifa lolote la waafrika wa kweli zaidi ya waarabu i.e walibya na watu wasiokuwa na uraia wowote(wapalestina). Ukiondoa msimamo wa kijiwe cha kunywa kahawa pale Addis Ababa (OAU) baadhi ya nchi zilituunga mkono kwa matamko i.e Zambia, Msumbiji, Angola, Ethiopia na Shelisheli. Ofcourse hatukuomba msaada wowote wa kijeshi kwa hiyo nchi hizo hazikuona umuhimu wa kusaidia. Kinachosikitisha ni kuwa unajiona kuwa unaongea facts wakati kimsingi uko usiku wa manane inawezekana ni kutokana na umri wako mdogo au ni ule usemi kuwa kwenye msafara wa mamba kenge pia wapo.
     
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    Kibona JF-Expert Member

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    Najua vibaraka wa ccm mpaka sasa bado wanaimba kuwa umasikini wetu umetokana na vita vya kagera. Mbona zimekuwa vitani mda mrefu lakini zimetuzidi kiuchumi? Kwani sie tunaweza kujilinganisha na Angola kiuchumi? Rwanda imetoka vitani, iko wapi sasa hivi kiuchumi? Aaronium uwe unasoma alama za nyakati! sio kila siku unapiga porojo zilezile, Tatizo kudorora uchimi ni kukosekana kwa utawala bora. Au unataka kusema hata richmond, IPTL, Milipuko ya gongo la mboto na mbagala navyo vimesababishwa na vita vya uganda?
     
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    Utingo JF-Expert Member

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    inaonekana umezaliwa miaka mitano ya mwisho ya utawala wa Mwinyi au mwanzoni mwa utawala wa Mkapan. Hiyo pesa unayodai kuwa nyerere alilipwa is based on international law ---go ask about it. na wala Uganda hawajalipa hata senti mpaka hivi leo.

    stop wasting your time vijiweni
     
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    Sick and tired of this vicious but harmless monotonous lame attack against Nyerere's integrity.
     
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    Aaronium Senior Member

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    No matter how old you are, if you can't read and understand you better not produce ill-meant replies, soma tena unambiye wapi pameandikwa Nyerere alilipwa pesa! Siku zote blank minds resent to speaking no vapors! You can't contest with me ukiwa ni mzee uliyelishwa sumu kuhusu Nyerere na umekomaa nazo! You may be one of those who don't know what happens. Historia na propaganda iliyoandikwa kwenye vitabu vya Nyerere kwa kiwango kikubwa imepotoshwa ku-suit matakwa yake ya kisiasa, if you can't read achana na hii thread because ukweli unauma mno si unaona unavyoumia, hauujui ukweli! Age is nothing but a number, kama wewe hivi , sijui umeishi miaka mingapi humu duniani, its not my issue! lakini you seem to have lived effectively for may be five years kwa upungufu wako wa kuelewa mada! Yes don't waste your time reading this you may end up being killed by stress. Respect yourself.
     
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    Aaronium Senior Member

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    You may never know! For your miniature brain, this may be too huge to digest, just find some beer and go to sleep!
     
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    Idi Amini alikuwa mzushi tu, nchi nyingi jirani zilikuwa na wakimbizi hapa kwetu na hazikuingia vitani nasi. Kuna wenzetu Kenya, Malawi, Congo, Burundi na Burundi. Nchi zote hizo watu wake wamekimbilia hapa kwetu tusijue hasa nyoyoni mwao wamejawa na nini kuhusu watawala walio kwenye nchi zao. Na kweli wengi wamekimbia mabavu ya watawala wao. Vivyo hivyo waliotokea Uganda walikimbia nchi yao kwa sababu mbalimbali kama vile kuogopa kutolewa roho zao pamoja na ukatili mwingine wowote ambao wangefanyiwa na Amini. Wengine walikuwa na nia ya kutawala na wengine kujisalimisha tu mahala salama, na hii haikuwa na haitokuwa kazi ya Tanzania kujua nini mtu anawaza moyoni mwake ili mradi ametimiza masharti ya ukimbizi. Maana yangu ni kuwa Idi Amini alichukia sana waganda kukimbilia Tanzania waganda 20,000. Tanzania haikuvamiwa na Burundi na Rwanda ambazo ziikuwa na wakimbizi wengi zaidi. Haikuvamiwa na Congo wala Malawi. Nchi ya Uingereza haijavamiwa na nchi ambazo wakimbizi wametoka na wanaendelea na chokochoko zao kwa nchi zao za asili wakiwa Uingereza. Amini alikuwa mkorofi na mzandiki alipewa kichwa na wakubwa Uingereza na Marekani na Israel, baadaye wakamwacha na kukimbilia kwenye nchi ambazo hazina uzoefu wa vita vya msituni. Pole sana mnaofikiri Idi Amini alikuwa mtu mwema.
     
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    chitambikwa JF-Expert Member

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    Nenda kyaka ,karagwe hasa Murongo ,kaisho ,Nyakatuntu ,Isingiro kote bado handaki na harufu ya vita bado ipo
     
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    Kwa nini nyerere aliwapa hifadhi waasi waliokuwa wakipambana na serikali ya uganda akina museveni?, je huo siyo uchokozi?
     
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    chitambikwa JF-Expert Member

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    [h=1]Uganda: Country Pays Tanzania Shs120 Billion Amin War Debt[/h]Alex B. Atuhaire
    11 April 2007

    Ndo mana hatujaziona maana zimelipwa kwa Rais huyu
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