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Mutiso ‘Spies’ Tanzania/ Suspicion over Kenyan envoy

Discussion in 'Kenyan News and Politics' started by The Quonquerer, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. The Quonquerer

    The Quonquerer JF-Expert Member

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    By The African Team

    The African has learnt Kenyan High Commissioner to Tanzanian Mutinda Mutiso, a flamboyant Kiswahili speaker easily and comfortably mingles with ordinary people.

    He is a man of the people who rarely shows elements of his diplomatic status and goes undetected and chats at common people's hangouts all places including his neighborhood at Namanga or any place he happens to visit, thus creating some doubts in some quarters of the Government and businesspeople.
    According to media reports, he seems to have commented of Tanzanian politics and in favor of the ruling party which is against the decorum and privileges of the credited diplomat.

    "A diplomat should not interfere with internal affairs of the host country; he should remain aloof and if anything to report, he should do so home country through a diplomatic bag," noted an experienced diplomat under anonymity.
    He said diplomats' privileges and access include the Parliament request and audience with Government officials and approved meetings through the Foreign Affairs Ministry.

    "There is a growing concern on the manner he conducts himself undercover and as diplomat and many people asked have shown doubts on his sincerity and his true colors and intention on his mission to the country especially after the showdown of the two countries in the just ended CITES conference in Doha, Qatar where Tanzania was badly defeated and humbled through a vote in a bid to get permit to sell its ivory stockpile," observed one respondent to the inquiry in a commentary on the high commissioner's character and behavior.
    The well committed anti-ivory sale move orchestrated by Kenya and its allies frustrated genuine Tanzania's efforts and creating in the process an unprecedented and uncalled for fracture in the revamped five-member East African Community (EAC), Kenya was closely backed by Rwanda, showing the general divide pattern of the EAC to come, which undermines confidence over the institution.

    "It is unfortunate that we have found ourselves fighting each other when we have established instruments in our joint commission protocols and that of the Lusaka Agreement Task Force (LATF)," said the Kenya High Commissioner.
    A survey conducted by this paper has shown a divided public stand on Mutinda's actions with many people recommending review and censure of his extra-diplomatic activities in the country, while some of them saying he has an undivided commitment of serving his country's interests.

    "This man was the one who initiated the movement that made Tanzania lose its bid for getting something from its natural resources and here is left freely to scout our country for further damages in the economic infrastructure like tourism. The Government should do something to control his activities before he finishes us," said one member of Mwenge Curios Cooperative Society along Sam Nujoma Road where the High Commissioner is a frequenter.
    Tourism is the largest generator of Tanzania's foreign currencies and forms over 15 per cent of the GDP.

    The high commissioner has travelled widely and deeply in this country in search of land and investment opportunities as a front man to Kenya's interests and in the process acquired land, business stakes in sometimes obscure and remote places. The high commissioner has been seen often at off road places like Lindi, Tunduru, Mbamba Bay, Loliondo, Lushoto, Kigoma and Kilosa.
    "It is against the convention and one could be deported when a diplomat conducts himself in a manner not conducive to decorum and decency attached to diplomatic activities exposing one to known dangers," said a diplomatic expert.

    In many instances, the high commissioner was spotted without diplomatic etiquette or escort on matters that seemed in all intentions were strictly private and confidential creating doubtful impressions on his true diplomatic intentions.
    "He is always busy and dislikes elaborate diplomatic stature and etiquette," said the informant, adding that last week was seen at the gate of CENT Garden Park in Arusha City at midnight like a guard of the club busy reviewing passers- by who entered and left the bar in Sanawari area.

    The aforementioned listed far off places he visited in the surface look desolate but are quite rich in potential resources that include tourism beach sites, agricultural land, wildlife and marine resources, agro-forestry products and natural gas that are highly needed by Kenya's business community and Mutiso is preparing the way.

    When asked about his rather higher mobility and off-the road presence he said in impeccable Kiswahili that the was an East African and regarded himself as a son of the soil here and was in fact promoting Tanzania to Kenyan investment in a win-win situation.

    In the bilateral relations he initiated and negotiated last year and signed on September 6, in Arusha, on a number of issues despite being members of the EAC it was observed that the two countries pursued divergent policies on wildlife conservation but agreed to collaborate in the areas of cross-border law enforcement in line with the LATF and exchange in training programs between the training institution.

    "The separate deal was made by Kenya to avoid the asymmetry conditionality's adopted by the EAC in Kampala whereby fewer member could have their own arrangements to meet their specific needs that were not common to the regional body and incorporate it into the main body functions," noted one diplomat.

    Meanwhile, the issue of concern for Kenya in tourism was the banning of tourist vans from Kenya to enter Tanzania and the same was resolved by establishing an inter-ministerial committee to address the matter adequately. It is alleged that this incongruency was the reason behind Kenya's ferocity on blocking Tanzania's bid to sell its ivory stockpile.

    The ambassador stayed by the stand of his Government in a policy in which he formulated and that has brought anxiety to economic relations that seem to antagonize each other.


    KARIBUNI KATIKA TAFAKURI HII:
     
  2. Smatta

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    To me this is simply a case of witch hunting, just because Amb. Mutiso was involved in the showdown of the two countries in the CITES conference in Doha some people wouldn't want to see him in the country he betrayed as an ambassador. Though saying that he is spying for Kenya is rather exaggerated, I think he is serving his own and his countries interest, looking for investment opportunities (which I doubt an ambassador should do). All in all, Kenya and Tanzania have been suspecting each other for a very long time and am sure it will take more than the federation to bring back the confidence and trust between this two countries.
     
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    Lole Gwakisa JF-Expert Member

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    which " which hunting" sir?
     
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    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    witch hunting mkuu.. pole for the typo.... Mwamtaftia Amb makosa ndio mmcrucify.. yeye ndie alie spear head ile opposition ya kuwabania msiuze pembe zenyu za ndovu, sasa anataftiwa sababu arudishwe kenya. Hivyo ndio namaanisha na witch hunting, hope umenishika mkuu.
     
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    Who Cares? JF-Expert Member

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    ahahahahaha...very interesting..anyway..kama balozi au diplomat yeyote katika nchi yoyote anayomipaka ya ki-utendaji..sasa kama bwana mutiso anakiuka naamini anatakiwa kuchukuliwa hatua za ki-diplomasia...na kwa suala la diplomasia naamini tanzania ni wazuri sana tuuu....so to me hii sio issue ya kuwekwa hapa na kujadiliwa na wana jamvi...mamlaka zipo naamini wanalijua hilo na watalifanyia kazi kwa kipimo chao cha kiutendaji...
     
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    :angry:
     
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    Magezi JF-Expert Member

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    There is no threat from our neighbours kenya......I would think of it if it would be some guys from Al shabab
     
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    Ubungoubungo JF-Expert Member

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    kuna threat kubwa toka kwa kenya,...na inabidi tuwe macho...hawalali siku zote wanahaha kuogopa tunawapita....huu ndio ukweli halisi..kama ndo hivyo wanaweza kufanya chochote kitakachoturudisha nyuma kwa namna yoyote...kama huyo balozi ndo yule aliyetuzibia riziki kule UAE, nafikiri wamrudishe tu kwao, hatumtaki hapa kwetu..labda walete mwengine.
     
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    The Quonquerer JF-Expert Member

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    Hawa watu ni mzigo kwetu! Hatuwahitaji! Wanatufuata utadhani nzi na kidonda! Kina Smatta na Nomasana, hawalali ni kushinda kwenye forums za waTZ, hata zao hawazitaki tena! Wacha1 uliandika nin bro mpaka post yako imelambwa? I wish i had read before it was brought down!
     
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    Kilembwe JF-Expert Member

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    Kama wanatuogopa kuwa tutawapita kiuchumi basi nasi sasa tukaze hapo hapo tuwapite kweli!
     
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    Jasusi JF-Expert Member

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    I am a Tanzanian and I supported the CITES vote against the selling of ivory. Does that put my patriotism in question?
     
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    nomasana JF-Expert Member

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    i cant wait for the replies you are about to get
     
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    Mimi nafikiri huu ndiyo mfano mzuri ya jinsi mabalozi wetu wa Tanzania nchi za nje inatakiwa wawe sio watu wa ceremony tu bali kuchacharika kutafuta manufaa kwa Tanzania. Mfano Balozi wa Tanzania huko Emirati/Omani wanatakiwa wa-'take' advantage ya 'special relationship' kati ya pwani ya Tanzania na nchi hizo husika kwa kuwaunganishia mikataba ya kazi nje Watanzania, kuwashawishi wawekezaji wa huko kutumia hiyo historical special relationship kufungua Dubai ndogo Tanzania kuvutia wafanyabishara wa Congo, Burundi, Zambia n.k kuja kununua bidhaa za 'Dubai Ndogo hapo Mabibo Economic Zone' Dar-es-Salaam na Zanzibar n.k

    Ukitazama CV ya Balozi wa sasa wa Marekani Mh. Alfonso hapa Tanzania alikuwa volunteer(Peace corp) nchini Tanzania miaka ya mwishoni 1960 huko Mkoani Iringa akiwa kijana mdogo(mwanafunzi) , baadaye akarudi Marekani kuitumikia nchi yake akawa askari wa cheo cha juu(general) na sasa wamemrudisha Tanzania kama Balozi, hii yote ni mikakati ya Marekani kwa kuwa huyu Balozi wao ni al-waatan wa mambo ya Tanzania. Vivyo Hivyo Kenya wameona wamletea Balozi Mutiso ambaye anaweza kuitumikia Kenya huku Tanzania kutokana na kuielewa kiundani tabia za 'waswahili' ,lugha ya kiswahili n.k Mfano mmoja wa mwisho maana ipo mingi kuna Balozi mdogo wa nchi moja ya Ulaya huko Arusha kwa jina Mama Mushendwa(ni mama wa Kizungu) naye anaongea kiswahili siyo mchezo maana anaifahamu Tanzania ndani nje hivyo kuwa mshauri mzuri wa nchi yake kuhusu Tanzania na Afrika Mashariki ndiyo maana ana makazi Arusha, Tanzania.

    Hivyo badala ya kupiga kelele zisizokuwa na manufaa, Wizara ya Mambo ya njeTanzania pamoja na Ikulu Tanzania zinatakiwa kuwa makini na uteuzi wa mabalozi wetu wa Tanzania nchi za nje kwa faida ya Tanzania kiuchumi, kijamii, kidiplomasia n.k na sio kwa ajili ya ceremonial purpose ya kupeperusha bendera ubalozini na kwenye hafla au mabenzi ya balozi zetu za Tanzania nje.
     
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    Not at all!. I believe you were against it from Tanzanian perspective. Hata mimi bado ilikuwa na bado ni kitendawili, kwa maana sijui hata hizo fedha zingekuwa EPA nyingine au la, or whether poaching inaweza kuzuiwa kwa kuuza au kutouza hizo ivories, bado hapo sijapata empirics. Lakini Wakenya walipinga ili kutuonyesha umwamba wao kwenye ukanda huu tuliomo, ambayo ndiyo tabia yao! Rationality is the name of the game, kwamba si kukubali kila kitu wala kukataa kila kitu lakini maslahi ya nchi yawe mbele zaidi. Bora mla rushwa mtanzania kuliko mavikuyu na majaluo ya kule yanayopeleka kwao. Mtanzania akijiibia, aibu ni za kwake lakini hela inabaki nyumbani! Hao jamaa wameshajipanga kupora, eti shamba la bibi. Najua kuna matatizo ya ndani lakini tusiruhusu ya nje pia ya hao jamaa, maana tutafanya kazi mara 2 kuyatatua. As a worst scenario bora fisadi mzawa (God forbid) kuliko Fisadi wa nje! Wakati tunapigana na makaburu, wao walikuwa wanawasaidia, sasa baada ya ushindi wanakuja kuvuna wasichopanda! Tutawaaminije? Wakae kwao. Maendeleo yanawezekana bila kuungana! Japan ime-federate na nani? Lakini ile pia kwamba tuwapeleke Mtwara na Ruvuma wasahau tofauti zao, si rahisi na muda wake umepita na si kipaumbele. Tuliyofanya yanatosha, wao wamesaidia nini? Wakati unapigana kukomboa bara hili, wao walisema tuendelee kuwa watumwa wakisaidiana na kina Kamuzu Banda! Hawana mpango! We need to ditch them for good , we don't fit!
     
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    The Quonquerer JF-Expert Member

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    You always expect negative reaction from Tanzanians, not always, not even in this case. But are you even interested in the welfare of Tanzanians. Si ulisema we ni mtu wa dog eating dog, why cant you keep being eaten by Kibakis, Biwots, Kenyattas and Mois who have made you homeless rather than venturing into eating TZs you won't manage? I suspect you risk being eaten alive before you eat anyone. cc. Smatta and ndugi zako!
     
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    bagamoyo JF-Expert Member

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    KENYA TURNS TO DIPLOMACY TO BOOST TRADE
    The Kenya Government has initiated a new strategy that will use diplomacy to attract and boost investments and forge closer links with the West.

    It has shifted its policy to embrace the concept of economic and trade diplomacy, which demands that Kenya aligns itself with economic blocs of strategic importance.

    The new efforts will see the country increasing its honorary consuls from the current 22 and use them to not only market and defend the country abroad but also seek investments.

    "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has adopted a policy of increasing its consular representation following measures to reduce its operational costs and restructure Kenya's missions abroad," Permanent Secretary Thuita Mwangi said.

    He said while it is essential to reduce costs, it is also of critical importance that Kenya strengthens and expands its diplomatic presence within the region and abroad, and focuses more sharply on increasing bilateral investment.

    Positive image

    Mr Mwangi told a meeting of Kenya's honorary consuls at Windsor Hotel in Nairobi that ends Sunday that the ongoing integration of global, cultural and economic communities has also led to a growing need for broad consular representation to spur interaction with other countries, maintain contact with the diaspora and uphold a positive image of Kenya
    Read more on this link:

    Daily Nation:
     
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    nomasana JF-Expert Member

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    and the kikwetes and mkapas N.K dont eat from you??? you got jokes.
     
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    Tutawapita kwenye nini? Rushwa? Maana kwa akili hizi tulizonazo haiwezekani tukafanya lolote la maana kubadilisha hali ya mambo ilivyo. Gas kwa mfano tumeanza kuitumia toka 2003/4. Mwaka huu Kenya nako wamegundua gas ingawa bado hawaja confirm iko kwenye commercial quantities.Ikitokea iko kwenye commercial quantity, nakupa miaka miwili tu utaona tofauti kati ya Kenya na Tanzania.
    Mfano mwingine ni bandari. Strategically, we could serve many land locked countries in the region.Lakini ilivyo sasa bandari ya Mombasa inamizigo zaidi inayopitia pale kuliko hizi bandari za kwetu.
    Sasa tutawapita kwenye nini? Pengine utunzi wa maneno ya kiswahili maana hapo tupo hodari toka juu kabisa...."Ukitaka kula lazima uliwe kidogo" Lol
     
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