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Mjadala wa Katiba Mpya: Kombani atia neno lake tena! Ndiyo msimamo wa serikali?

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Chief Isike, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. Chief Isike

    Chief Isike JF-Expert Member

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    Dar es Salaam. The government said yesterday it has no intention of amending the recently assented to Constitutional Review Act 2011, adding that it was now awaiting the President to form a law review commission to coordinate the process of collecting views from various stakeholders.

    The government’s position was given by the minister for Constitutional and Legal Affairs, Ms Celina Kombani, when responding to questions by journalists during a graduation ceremony at the Dar es Salaam School of Journalism (DSJ).She said after President Jakaya Kikwete had assented to the Bill into law, it did not mean doors for collecting views from stakeholders were closed.

    Ms Kombani said the law could be amended any time, noting, however, that this could only be done after the President had formed a constitutional review commission.

    The minister’s statement dashed expectations by various stakeholders, including some Opposition political parties and civil society organisations, that the Constitutional Review Act 2011 could have been amended to accommodate fresh views before the President formed the commission.

    A few days before the President assented to the law, the government and the Opposition Chadema agreed in principle that the newly-passed Bill for the Constitutional Review Act 2011 needed major amendments.
    A joint statement issued yesterday by the two sides at the end of two days of consultations, said the Bill should be improved for national consensus as well as cohesion.

    The two sides also agreed during closed-door talks that there was a need for the government and other stakeholders to hold constant meetings and consultations, for the purpose of building and strengthening national consensus during the process of crafting a new Constitution.

    On the other hand, the government believed that the Bill was perfect and President Kikwete indicated that he would endorse it despite sentiments from Chadema and activists including those under the banner of Tanzania Constitution Forum (TCF).

    Among other issues, Chadema was opposed to giving the President powers to select members of the constitutional review body and proposed that there be two commissions.However, Ms Kombani said yesterday that the President needed to form a commission which would then sit down with him to evaluate the suggestions given by various stakeholders.

    She said the suggestions that would be approved by the commission would be submitted to the government for amendments. She said that based on such a fact, “amending an Act could be made anytime if there was basis for it.”
    “Assenting to the Bill does not mean that the President ignored other stakeholders…rather he did it so that he could formulate a commission to help him in evaluating the suggestions,” clarified Ms Kombani.

    During the graduation ceremony, Ms Kombani also urged journalists to sensitise members of the public and help in conveying the latter’s suggestions concerning the content of the new Constitution.

    President Jakaya Kikwete signed the Bill for Constitutional Review Act 2011, in late November, this year, going against various political parties and activists who claimed that the public was not given enough time to discuss the document and air their views.

    Most said the government was supposed to establish awareness creating committees before the Bill was passed by Parliament or signed into law. Some also blamed the government for denying people justice by taking the Constitutional Review Bill to Parliament despite the fact that many Tanzanians know little about the country’s existing supreme law.

    Many opined that people were supposed to be educated on the current Constitution so that they could decide whether it was good or bad. A majority of wananchi are not in a position to contribute at this level, they said.

    They suggested that before the Bill was signed into law, the government should have used non-governmental organisations to collect the people’s views on what should constitute the contents of the new laws.

    Ms Kombani also promised to help the school’s administration to establish its own buildings within the city after it had earlier appealed for help because it needed to expand its college. A total of 620 students were awarded various certificates ranging from basic and advanced certificates as well as diplomas.

    Source; The Citizen la leo. Ingawa naona kuna some mistakes za ama mwandishi au mhariri wake katika habari hii, haraka au uelewa wa jambo lenyewe. Ukisoma vizuri utaweza kuona.
     
  2. Mwanajamii

    Mwanajamii JF-Expert Member

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    hapa tatizo ni lugha ngumu iliyotumika.watu hawataki kuumiza vichwa kusoma lugha inayozunguka ndo mana hakuna comment.andika hii ktu kwa kiswahili.by the way,hata kikwete mwenyewe wakati anasaini hiyo mswada alisema milango ya kupokea maoni bado iko wazi pamoja na kwamba amesaini.kombani amepigia mstari majibu na maelezo ya kikwete.
     
  3. rosemarie

    rosemarie JF-Expert Member

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    we 2mine kaa chini itafsiri vizuri kwenye lugha yetu
     
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    MpendaTz JF-Expert Member

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    Udhaifu mkubwa sana utajitokeza hapo kwenye uundwaji wa "Constitutional review body". Unapotaka kulima shamba ili upate mazao bora ni lazima upande mbegu bora! Kitu kinachotaka kutokea sasa ni udanganyifu mkubwa, uporaji wa haki ya wananchi na kejeli kwa Taifa zima.
    Mfumo gani wa kipuuzi huu mtu mmoja hawezi kujisikia kuwa kiongozi wa nchi mpaka awe na uwezo wa kuteua kila kiongozi nchini? Mfumo gani usiowatoa wananchi mashaka hata chembe. Kila kitu kinapelekwa kikamari kamari? Kiongozi gani asiyeheshimu wananchi anaowaongoza? Kwanini kupora haki za wananchi huku akijifanya muelewa? Wakati mwingine Kikwete hutia huruma maana anaonekana kama hakujua uzito wa kazi aliyogombea. Nadhani alifikiri akiishaingia tu ikulu basi Taifa zima litakuwa linamfuata yeye anavyotaka tu. Litakuwa darasa lake? Na kila kitu kitakuwa kama anvyotaka yeye na kila mwananchi atakuwa anaamini lake yeye tu.

    Tulipofika ni balaa tena hatutoki kirahisi. Wenzetu Kenya tayari wanafaidi utumishi wa Jaji Mkuu ambaye hakuteuliwa na Raisi. Hii si hatua ndogo, maana sasa Sheria nchini mwao ni msumeno wa kweli. Jaji Mkuu anajua fika kuwa anawatumikiwa wananchi wake na siyo Raisi. Wakati huo wao wamesherehekea miaka 48 na sisi eti 50! Tunahitaji mingine 50 au?

    Mungu ivushe Tanzania yetu!
     
  5. ubun2

    ubun2 Senior Member

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    In order for Tanzania to move forward to a real democracy, towards a real and true peace, it needs strong institutions. In order to function as a country for all people and not just for the 0.01%, there should be Accountability for LOOTERS in the government who have stolen and continue to steal from the people. Imperative to have an independent Judiciary, a true free press (not one subjected to threats when investigating the corrupt). Strong, independent institutions is imperative and should be included in the new constitution. If there is not an independent Judiciary, it means that the current statusQuo will prevail & no looters will be held accountable for their crimes against the people of Tanzania. Corruption as status quo will prevail!
     
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    Deo JF-Expert Member

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    Kwenye red ndio msimamao halisi wa serikali.

    Kwenye bluu ni maneno ya ulaghai, kwa CDM, Jukwaa la siasa na wale wote wasioridhika.

    Sasa ona mkanganyiko "On the other hand, the government believed that the Bill was perfect" na "The government said yesterday it has no intention of amending the recently assented to Constitutional Review Act 2011, adding that it was now awaiting the President to form a law review commission to coordinate the process of collecting views from various stakeholders." na pia hapa" Ms Kombani said yesterday that the President needed to form a commission which would then sit down with him to evaluate the suggestions given by various stakeholders".

    Je maelezo haya maanayake nini kwa watanzania? Kwa CDM na wanaharakati wote na viongozi wa dini?

    Tumedharauliwa na tumetukanwa ya kutosha.

    Je hili siyo sawa na kuruta na afande "wewe ni mpumbavu kama mama yako" na kuruta kujibu "Ndiyo Afande" Je mtajibu kama makuruta?

    Kombani "Tumethubutu kuwa na ari zidi kuwanyanganya hoja ya katiba na sasa tumeweza kwa kasi zaidi kuwaletea sheria kandamizi ili tusonge mbele na kasi zaidi kuwapa katiba mbaya zaidi kuliko ya awali"

    Ujumbe ndio huo mahakamani kwa sana makosa ya jinai, wameanza wanasiasa sasa waandishi na baadaye wanaharakati. Kweli tutajuta kumfahamu jk na sisiemu lake

    Maneno ya Kombani
     
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