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!!!! Mheshimiwa Rais Kikwete Lazima Asome Barua hii Kabla ya Kwenda Ivory Coast !!!!

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Baba Sangara, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. Baba Sangara

    Baba Sangara JF-Expert Member

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    Naomba mtu amwakilishie barua hii raisi wetu kabla ya kuja Abidjan kwa Gbagbo. Dhumuni, Gbagbo asije akamtoa nishai Mheshimiwa Kikwete kama vile alivyosumbuliwa bure Raila Odinga.

    LINK: Open Letter: Ivory Coast, the war against civilians | Foreign Policy

    Open Letter: Ivory Coast, the war against civilians

    “The Gbagbo mafia is struggling first and foremost for power,” affirms a group of experts on West Africa, who are concerned about the “risk that the situation will escalate into a civil war”

    JANUARY 31, 2011
    Laurent Gbagbo is clinging to power after rejecting the results of the presidential elections, as declared by the Independent Electoral Commission, certified by the UN, and recognized by the international community, designating Alassane Ouattara as the clear winner.

    There is now a real risk that the situation will escalate into civil war. In pro-opposition neighborhoods of Abidjan, numerous individuals have disappeared in the wake of operations by security forces loyal to Laurent Gbagbo. News reports have shown corpses lying in the streets, while morgues have refused to release the bodies of those killed to their families. Converging accounts have led the UN to suspect the existence of mass graves and the incineration of bodies, but Gbabgo's security forces have prevented investigations of the alleged sites. Outside Abidjan, particularly in the western region, NGOs are reporting incidents of serious violence against the civilian population.

    As scholars professionally committed to a rigorous analysis of the situation, we must insist that there is no evidence for any primal hatred between supposedly rival ethnic groups, nor for that matter between local populations and foreigners, between northerners and southerners, much less between Muslims and Christians. This is not to deny the existence of sharp, long-lasting tensions, particularly over access to land. However, the interplay of intersecting interests has generally allowed Ivoirians to implement negotiated solutions to such recurrent disputes. Moreover, Côte d'Ivoire, a country with a long history of mixing, remains a trans-ethnic, cosmopolitan, multi-religious "melting pot." In any "civil" war, who would fight against whom? The answer is anything but obvious.

    In the past few weeks, accumulated fears, resentment, and greed have fuelled violent clashes among different segments of the population in the west of the country. However, it is essential to stress the resilience of the overwhelming majority of Ivoirians on all sides of the political spectrum who are confronting the crisis without resorting to violence. On the national scale, Laurent Gbagbo's supporters are just a vociferous and agitated minority who monopolize the state media they have hijacked. We should not overestimate their numbers.

    Laurent Gbagbo has justified his actions in terms of the defense of national sovereignty, brandishing the specter of the country falling prey to foreign influences. This is a diversionary tactic. His political opponents are just as patriotic and just as concerned with developing the national economy in a more equal partnership with Western (or other) powers. Whatever its claims, the Gbagbo regime has hardly turned its back on the "predatory foreigners" it purports to ward off. Over the past ten years, it has depended on extensive politico-commercial networks in France and elsewhere. Not to mention the recourse to Liberian and other international mercenaries for controlling the Ivorian population.

    To the extent that there is any real ideological difference between the two camps, it centers on their conception of citizenship. The Gbagbo regime promotes an ethno-nationalist vision: only members of indigenous ethnic groups from the south of Côte d'Ivoire may claim a fully legitimate, or ‘natural', right to civic participation - a citizenship ‘by blood'. In this conception, electors from the northern regions, assimilated to ‘foreigners', are relegated to the status of second-class citizens. Annulling the votes of districts in the north and the center of the country is thus consistent with this logic. The opposition claims a republican conception of citizenship, founded on the principal of equality and according civic rights to all those born in the Côte d'Ivoire, a far remove from the ‘divine right' claimed by Gbagbo.

    But ideology is undoubtedly not the key to understanding the ongoing crisis. The Gbagbo mafia is struggling first and foremost for power; for an exclusive hold on power, for the very enjoyment of power, with all its attendant material benefits. How, one might ask, can civilians freely and openly express dissent when the thugs of the outgoing regime exact merciless reprisals against anyone expressing overt opposition or who is even suspected of voting for the wrong candidate?

    A group of experts on Cote d'Ivoire and West Africa:

    Full list of experts: Open Letter: Ivory Coast, the war against civilians | Foreign Policy
  2. Kamakabuzi

    Kamakabuzi JF-Expert Member

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    JK akifika huko anapaswa awe mkweli toka rohoni mwake na amwambia Gbagbo yafuatayo:
    Wewe ni rais halali kwani kuchakachua matokeo ni halali kwani hata kwetu tunafanya hivyo hivyo.
    Usikubali kutoka madarakani wakati una jeshi, polisi nk.
    Wagawanye wananchi wako kwa misingi ya kidini,hapo utawatawala kirahisi sana maana wanapenda sana dini zao; hata kwangu nafanya hivyo hivyo, likitokea suala gumu kwangu napenyeza hoja za kiudini udini.
  3. Mwanajamii

    Mwanajamii JF-Expert Member

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    Ama kweli nabii hakubariki kwao.

    Mzee wetu Nelson Mandela ni maarufu sana duniani na ni alama ya amani, upatanishi na upendo lakini ndoa yake ilimshinda. Hii haina maana kwamba kipawa na kipaji chake katika maeneo mengine hakina manufaa kwetu. Tumwache Kikwete akajaribu kuwapatanisha ndugu zetu wa Ivory cost hata kama tupo tunaoona kwamba nyumbani Tanzania katetereka.

    Mara hii umesahua kwamba wasifu (CV) wa Kikwete ni wa kutukuka katika usuluhishi na upatanishi wa migogoro? hata kama kuna matatizo hapa nyumbani lakini katika suala hili naamini wamempata the right candidate. Amefanikiwa kushiriki usuluhishi wa Kenya, Burundi, Rwanda, DRC, Comoro na Zimbabwe.
  4. M

    MaryGeorge Member

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    Mmmhhh...kuna ule msemo usemao "toa kwanza boriti katika jicho lako kabla hutamtoa mwenzio" au "ukiona kwa mwenzio kunaungua ujue kwako kunateketea" - aliyosema Jenerali kwenye mdahalo wa katiba kuwa ukiona alama za maandishi zinaanza kutokea kwenye ukuta uwe mwepesi kukisia maneno yanayotaka kumaliziwa - sasa kabla hayajamaliziwa ni vyema ukachukua hatua.

    Mie ningemshauri tena buuure, ASISAFIRI TENA, akae chini na kufanya maamuzi mazito ya kutatua shida zinazokera wananchi wake THATS ALL! kwenda kusuluhisha nchi za wengine sanasana ni kujiongezea dharau maana hata wao pia wanaona yanayotokea nchini kwetu kwani hawana mabalozi wao hapa? Usuluhishi katika nchi tajwa hapo juu hauwezi kuwa 100% attributed to JK's effort HATA KIDOGO! nia ya wenye kutaka madaraka katika hizo nchi ndio zilizowezesha wao kuwa na utayari hata wa kusikiliza outsiders. Lakini pia juhudi zao wenye nchi (citizen) lazima ndizo zimechangia pia ....kuna michango mbalilmbali na nina thubutu kusema TZ kama ni kuchangia usuluhishi basi imechangia kwa between 5% - 15% only.
  5. Baba Sangara

    Baba Sangara JF-Expert Member

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    Lifted from » Gbogbo

    Gbagbo is a thug and a terrorist and should be treated as such. Intimidation, human rights abuses, murdering, kidnapping and sodomizing dissents, raping women are daily acitivities by Gbagbo's cronies (see the HRW report). The longer the crisis goes on the more Ivorians suffer under this brutal dictator. Gbagbo and Cos. brandish that shameful threat to anybody who disagrees with their version of the events: Senegalese, Burkinabe, Nigerians, Malians, Europeans, Americans... Gbagbo is even depriving citizens from the Ivorian North and in Burkina Faso from receiving electricity and water. ECOWAS 's stand is the right one. Allowing this pugnacious dictator Gbagbo to stay in power will mean that no dictator with military support will ever again concede electoral defeat in Africa.Unfortunately, South Africa and some undemocratic countries like Angola and Ouaganda are undermining ECOWAS's resolve to force Gbagbo out. Ivory Coast is the responsability of ECOWAS not the South African Development Community(SADC). ECOWAS did not interfere with the mess the SADC created in Zimbabwe where Mugabe and his prime minister are bound again to contest the upcoming election.Will the SADC propose a short-sighted power-sharing again. How's that solving the fundamental problem of defeated refusing to cede power peacefully. Either way there will be violence. That's why ECOWAS wants to an end to this masquarade of stealing elections once for all and deter any potential Gbagbo. Chairman Goodluck should be commended for his efforts regarding Cote d'Ivoire and should not intimidated by this thug of Gbagbo. Gbagbo does not realise that this is bigger than him or Ivory Coast. It is about the survival of democracy in West Africa in particular and Africa in general where there are 18 elections in the offing this year. Gbagbo's behavior if tolerated will set a bad precedent and shouldn't be the norm in the continent. The will of the people has to be respected by any means necessary including military ones. The aspirations of the African people for democracy are growing stronger and stronger. The Turmoil in Egypt and Tunisia is just a testament of that. The African Union (AU) should listen to the voice of the people instead of trying to accomodate dictators who steal elections like Gbagbo, Mugabe of Zimbabwe and Kibaki of Kenya. If the AU does not show serious leadership in Ivory Coast it will lose its credibility, reliability and relevance in the world. The AU should support ECOWAS's efforts to use force to bring sanity to Cote d'Ivoire. You don't need 100% agreement of all the African 53 leaders who agree usually on their own disagreement, just a simple majority.