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Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by mtuwawatu, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. mtuwawatu

    mtuwawatu Senior Member

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    Wana JF, nimekuta hii habari kwenye hii site si vibaya kujadili
    Zanzibar, wahamiaji na makanisa

    Zanzibar, wahamiaji na makanisa
    Assalamu alykum.

    Nduguzanguni hebu tutafakarini masuala haya kwa makini.

    Vipi watu hawa wanapata ardhi wakati ardhi yote ni ya waislamu?
    Makanisa yanatumika kuweka watu kutoka nje ya Zanzibar kwa lengo gani?
    Kwanini Pasta wa kanisa la Mwera ndie Sheha wa Shehia hiyo? Nani alompa usheha huo? Kwanini waislamu wa hapo wakakubali kuongozwa na Pasta wakati yeye shughuli zake ni za kanisa?
    Wimbi la wahamizi kutoka nje ya Zanzibar lina lengo la kisiasa, kidini au yote?
    Jee serikali inawapa support wahamizi hawa kupitia vitambulisho vya ukaazi kwa vile wengi wao wanavyo na waliostahili hawakupewa? Nini lengo la serikali hapa, kuwaondoa wazanzibari halisi na kusimika wageni watawale nchi hii?
    Jee hatuoni athari za kuvamiwa na wageni huku wakinunua ardhi na kujenga makanisa kuwa zitawarithisha vizazi vijavyo kadhia kama ya Palenstina na Israeli?
    Nini hatma ya Zanzibar chini ya mpango huu wa wahamiaji na makanisa?
    Kwanini wazanzibari wako kimya hawachukui hatua yoyote, au wanasubiri ushahidi kamili?


    Source
    Zanzibar, wahamiaji na makanisa
     
  2. TUKUTUKU

    TUKUTUKU JF-Expert Member

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    Duh!jamaa wanachuki balaa!wenyewe kakija bara wanajitanua balaa,wapemba wametumia fursa mbalimbali zilizopo huku Tanganyika bila kubaguliwa na yeyote!juzi nilimsikia Hamad Rashid akisema kuwa yeye ana nyumba mikocheni!chetu(Watanganyika) cha wote,chao ni chao!hawa jamaa washukuru hiyo serikali yao ya CCM inayowadekeza kama watoto!lakini kila lenye mwanzo lina mwisho!ipo siku watapaswa kuturudishia ardhi yetu wanayoimiliki!hili siyo shamba la bibi yao!!!
     
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    Jile79 JF-Expert Member

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    Nyambafu................sijui umeandika ukiwa wapi vile yakhe? ..........usilolijua litakusumbua......muulize mkwere inawezekana kawaleta kwa jili ya mahakama ya kadh ya oic yakheeeeeeeeeeeee!
     
  4. Mallaba

    Mallaba JF-Expert Member

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    Assalamu alykum.
    Nduguzanguni hebu tutafakarini masuala haya kwa makini.
    • Vipi watu hawa wanapata ardhi wakati ardhi yote ni ya waislamu?
    • Makanisa yanatumika kuweka watu kutoka nje ya Zanzibar kwa lengo gani?
    • Kwanini Pasta wa kanisa la Mwera ndie Sheha wa Shehia hiyo? Nani alompa usheha huo? Kwanini waislamu wa hapo wakakubali kuongozwa na Pasta wakati yeye shughuli zake ni za kanisa?
    • Wimbi la wahamizi kutoka nje ya Zanzibar lina lengo la kisiasa, kidini au yote?
    • Jee serikali inawapa support wahamizi hawa kupitia vitambulisho vya ukaazi kwa vile wengi wao wanavyo na waliostahili hawakupewa? Nini lengo la serikali hapa, kuwaondoa wazanzibari halisi na kusimika wageni watawale nchi hii?
    • Jee hatuoni athari za kuvamiwa na wageni huku wakinunua ardhi na kujenga makanisa kuwa zitawarithisha vizazi vijavyo kadhia kama ya Palenstina na Israeli?
    • Nini hatma ya Zanzibar chini ya mpango huu wa wahamiaji na makanisa?
    • Kwanini wazanzibari wako kimya hawachukui hatua yoyote, au wanasubiri ushahidi kamili?
    source:Zanzibar, wahamiaji na makanisa
     
  5. minda

    minda JF-Expert Member

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    mkuu nimekupata unajaribu kuwakilisha kundi la watu fulani.
    je, maeneo mengi hapa tanzania na duniani kote hakuna wazanzibari?
    wapemba mko wengi tena mnafanya vema kwenye biashara zenu sasa je wenyeji waanze kuwalalamikia uwepo wenu?
    nadhani mtu yeyote ana haki ya kuishi kokote mradi havunji sheria.
     
  6. Mallaba

    Mallaba JF-Expert Member

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    mimi siwakilishi huo ujumbe hata kidogo kwani mi sio mzanzibara yahe..
    Ila kuna tatizo la hawa jamaa kulingana na nilivyofatilia hiyo makala yao, kwa nii wanakuwa na ubaguzi hivyo? hivi huwa wanabaguliwa na wenyewe huko bara? mbona tunaona misikiti karibu kila mtaa dar /bara lakini sijawahi kuona watu wakilaumu?..kwa hali hii sijui kama tutafika tunakoelekea..
     
  7. Ngalikihinja

    Ngalikihinja JF-Expert Member

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    Vigezo vya kuwa sheha ni vipi.......??? Uislamu.......??? ....Umsikiti........??? Ukristo......??? ........Ukanisa........???
     
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    Ngalikihinja JF-Expert Member

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    Usiwe na tabia ya ku-copy na ku-paste vitu usivyoweza kuvitetea kwa hoja........Ulivyoiweka ni kama mtazamo wako ndiyo upo hivyo......... unaulizwa unajitoa............
     
  9. Safari_ni_Safari

    Safari_ni_Safari JF-Expert Member

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    Ingizo hili limetumwa na popobawa tarehe 11/29/2010 nyakati za 12:30 mu, na limehifadhiwa katika Makala/Tahariri. Fuatilia majibu yoyote katika chapisho hili kwa RSS 2.0. Unaweza kutoa majibu au trakibeki kutoka websaiti yako mwenyewe.
     
  10. Buchanan

    Buchanan JF Diamond Member

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    Waislamu huwa siwaelewi hata kidogo! Wakiwa wachache huwa ni watu wema sana, hawana fujo hata kidogo, wakiongezeka kidogo huwa wanaanza madai ya "kuonewa," wakiwa wengi ndio inakuwa balaa, wanakuwa wababe kupindukia! Hii mahakama ya kadhi na mambo ya oic ni mlango tu wa kuingilia, kimbembe kiko mbele ya safari, huyu Membe ndio atakuwa wa kwanza kulipuliwa mabomu!
     
  11. Ngalikihinja

    Ngalikihinja JF-Expert Member

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    "MOB PSYCHOLOGY" ...................huwa inawasumbua sana hawa bandugu...........
     
  12. Joseph

    Joseph JF-Expert Member

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    Zanzibar ni sehemu ya Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania na mtu yeyote anaruhusiwa kuishi popote na kuabudu dini yoyote aitakayo ili mradi asivunje sheria za nchi.
    Sioni tatizo hapo.
     
  13. Juma Contena

    Juma Contena JF-Expert Member

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    Aliewaambia kutukanana udini ni part of entertainment ni nani?

    Subirini tuu huu ndio mwanzo wenyewe mmeanza kuweza haya mawazo kwenye conscious za watanzania sasa mnataka kulalama na nani? na yes JF is partly to blame.
     
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    Kagalala JF-Expert Member

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    Wapemba wamejaa uk utafikiri ni Mji Mkongwe tena wanakula pesa za walipa kodi wakidai ni wakimbizi. Inakuwaje wao wanalalamika kama watanzania wenzao wanaenda kuishi visiwani?
     
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    Wabaguzi tu hawana chochote/mi naona mfumo ungerudi enzi za mwinyi passport kwenda huko,ili wanaoenda wajue wawe makini na kusoma alama za nyakati wasije kujuta wakibadilika wazawa
     
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    Gama JF-Expert Member

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    hii habari iko kwenye media gani?
     
  17. minda

    minda JF-Expert Member

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    soma link aliyonukuu mkuu mallaba ambayo pia unaweza kuipata hapa
     
  18. minda

    minda JF-Expert Member

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    mchangiaji mmoja akachangia hivi:


    kwa hakika hayo maswali uliyoyatoa yote ni ya msingi na yanatakiwa kufanyiwa kazi. uvamizi wa wageni kutoka tanganyika umepindukia toka zamani watu kutoka tanganyika walikuwa wanakuja lakini kwa shughuli maalum ikiwa kikazi zinazofahamika au kimichezo, lakini ujaji huu wa hivi sasa kwa mtizamo wangu wa haraka haraka ni wa mpango maalum ni upi huo? kisiasa na kidini nitafafanua kidogo tu.
    kisiasa hii nchi kwa miaka sasa imetafutiwa kila njia ya kuitia mkononi mwa tanganyika toka hata kabla ya mapinduzi na baada ya mapinduzi na zishafanyika kila mbinu ambazo athar zake mpaka leo hii hapa tulipo tunaiona zanzibar imekuwa katika pingu za kitanganyika na kwa sababu ya kukosa umoja baina ya wazanzibari wenyewe pingu hizo zimekuwa ni vigumu kufungulika.
    Kidini zanzibar ina historia kubwa katika maswala ya dini(uislam) toka enzi na dahar ambayo yalipelekea zanzibar kujulikana sana na watu wake na population yake ambayo 99% waislam hali hii haijawa ya kuwafurahisha maadui wa uislam haya tunayoyaona sasa ya kuota makanisa kama uyoga na pub ni mitayarisho ya miaka mingi ya kutaka kuvuruga uislam na kuwavuruga waislam katika imani yao maadili yao na utamaduni wao wa asili.
    nawasilisha
     
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    MUSINGA JF-Expert Member

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    ningekuwa na uwezo wewe sijui ningekufanya nini
     
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    usitishe mkuu, toa hoja!
     
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