Masoud Kipanya is wrong about SUA

[Yo Yo]

kuna soma moja linalohusu informatics au mathematics kwenye mtaala kwahiyo kufanya kazi Bank is OK

bwa ha ha ha walahi kazi ipo......na wale wa BBA waliosoma kijisomo kimoja cha LAW nao wanaruhusiwa wawe mawakili etal?

 

[kanda2]

Masoud kipanya, recently posted a cartoon, depicting a SUA graduate working in bank with a line saying "Hii ndio Bongo, nimemaliza chuo kikuu cha kilimo cha sokoine lakini niko kaunta benki", a statement of the sort. Masoud, like many Tanzanians, are ignorant of the curriculum, even degree programs offered at SUA. The original BSc Agriculture of SUA offered in 1980s, had specialisations and final year students used to specialise in different fields including Agricultural Economics. People like Prof. Anna Tibaijuka graduated from SUA with BSc Agriculture with specialisation in economics and today she is leading UNHABITAT. Since the 1990s SUA has been a dgree of MSc. in Agricultural Economics. Recently, SUA started degree programs in Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness and an MBA with biase to agriculture. My dear Masoud agriculture is a sector, not farming. The degree of agriculture offered by SUA considers all components of agriculture, from engineering, economics, communication, processing etc.
Being a graduate of SUA does not mean that you are committed to a farm or the likes. Even more, people have natural talents. Masoud never attended a university offering a degree in "cartoonology", but he is doing fine with his toons. Likewise, Tracy chapman has a degree in Agriculture but chose the music career. One of the best music producers in Tanzania Hermes B, is graduate of SUA. Do you remember Prof Madundo Mtambo, a man who shocked Simba SC in the 1980s? A SUA graduate. Graduates of SUA have prospered in different fields (not just banking) including politics where you have people like Prof. Msolla, David Mathayo, Hawa Ghasia, Jumanne Maghembe etc.
The secret is, financial institutions that employ student from SUA are impressed by their perfomances, and thats not just CRDB. PRIDE Tanzania is proud os SUA graduates, so is FINCA and NMB. Afterall, all those people employed in Tanzanian banks are not graduates of BCom, or finance, or Banking. Most of them have degrees and they undergo inhouse training. The best ones prosper, like the SUA graduate you see behind the counter. Be warned that SUA graduates are doing fine in agriculture itself. A good example is Shambani graduates, a company formed and owned by young SUA graduates. I dont believe that Masoud's father-in-law has a degree in agriculture? I gues he own farmms in Mbeya...au hii ndio Bongo?

Masoud kipanya
yuko very right uchumi wa Tanzania uliyumba baada ya watu wasio na fani walizosomea kupewa madaraka kwenye maeneo wasiostahiki.

mfano mzuri Gavana wa Benki kuu Edwin Mtei alikuwa na digrii ya Historia akapewa ugavana.

ilipotokea vita ya Uganda na Tanzania. Mzee HUYU MWAKA 1978 akamshauri mwalimu Nyerere kuwa uchumi utayumba kwa miezi 18 tu.tukaingia kwenye vita ikachukua zaidi ya miaka 18 uchumi wetu unayumba tu.

Mwalimu Nyerere alikuwa na utaratibu wa kuweka watu wasio na sifa husika kwenye nyadhifa mbali mbali kama kina mzee Mzindakaya. matokeo yake vyama vya ushirika na maduka ya RTC yakafa.

Mzee Mwinyi alipoingia akachagua gavana wa BOT mwenye PhD ya uchumi DR.Idrissa Rashid na JK kachagua Pro.Ndullu.ambaye nae ni nguli wa uchumi.
msukosuko kama huu wa uchumi duniani angekuwa mzee wetu Mtei bado gavana ingekuwaje?

kama mtu kasomea kilimo akalime tu,huo ni upotezaji wa resources kwani maafisa vilimo tunawahitaji sana na hawapo, kwanini tuwapeleke benki?

umesema kuwa wanasiasa wa SUA wanafanya vizuri,swali mtu mjinga kama David Mathayo Msuya ambaye ni mtoto wa waziri mkuu Cleopa Msuya, anafanya lipi la maana bungeni au wizarani zaidi ya kuwa na PhD feki.angekuwa msomi wa maana angejiuzulu kwani kila mtu anamjua jamaa ni mfano wa NCHIMBI,MARY NAGU NA KAMALA wote wana Phd FEKI.

PETER MSOLLA ni kati ya mawaziri wajinga hana la maana analofanya kiasi ya waziri mkuu PINDA amekwenda kupiga kampeni jimboni kwa Msolla wakati kipindi cha kampeni hakijaanza.

Prof.Jumanne Maghembe nae ni mzigo serikali. kuna mama Ishengoma ambaye ni mkuu wa mkoa wa Ruvuma nae ni mzigo kabisa.

Waziri Hawa Ghasia ni product ya Mzumbe kule ndiko alikopata misingi ya uongozi sio SUA. Mzumbe wanajulikana kwa ubora kwenye menejiment.

Masoud KIPANYA kafikisha ujumbe kiasi umeumia hadi umekuja kujiunga JF.SIKU ZOTE UKWELI UNAUMA.

 

[Yo Yo]

mfano mzuri Gavana wa Benki kuu Edwin Mtei alikuwa na digrii ya Historia akapewa ugavana.

thanks mkuu sikujua kama upuuzi kwenye system ulianza huko......Dr leakey na noti wapi na wapi?

 

[Raia Fulani]

Ha ha habari ndio hiyo. Hapo udsm wanaenda kibao na kusome information studies. Kilimo kama sekta kingewaajiri basi kama mabwana shamba, wizarani, n.k. Hajakosea

 

[Koku25]

It is very ignorant of whoever that is to think that you have to have a degree in Accounts to be an Accountant or a degree in Banking to work in a Bank. What you don't know or even realise is a degree provide most graduates with a knowledge and skills necessary to enable them to work in different areas within any organisation. I mean you can work in just about any area in an organisation if you are right minded and have the enthusiasm to learn new skills. I graduated in Information Systems but I work as HR Adviser?? What the job was looking for was someone who is willing to take challenges, work on their own initiatives and have excellent interpersonal skills, and these are the things gotten me a job. Ehe come on Tanzanian lets us think BIG for once why look at things through the box? Spread your wings!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Yo Yo]

It is very ignorant of whoever that is to think that you have to have a degree in Accounts to be an Accountant or a degree in Banking to work in a Bank. What you don't know or even realise is a degree provide most graduates with a knowledge and skills necessary to enable them to work in different areas within any organisation. I mean you can work in just about any area in an organisation if you are right minded and have the enthusiasm to learn new skills. I graduated in Information Systems but I work as HR Adviser?? What the job was looking for was someone who is willing to take challenges, work on their own initiatives and have excellent interpersonal skills, and these are the things gotten me a job. Ehe come on Tanzanian lets us think BIG for once why look at things through the box? Spread your wings!!!!!!!!!!

sasa mbona umekuja na jina lingine bana? arrrrg

bwana shamba uliona wapi tangazo la kazi wanataka banker alafu qualification wanataka mwenye degree ya SUA? au ushasikia Silicon Valley wanajiri mabwana shamba? bwa ha ha ha ha

hebu naimbie rule za inform system v/s HR

 

[Mwanjelwa]

Masoud kipanya, recently posted a cartoon, depicting a SUA graduate working in bank with a line saying "Hii ndio Bongo, nimemaliza chuo kikuu cha kilimo cha sokoine lakini niko kaunta benki", a statement of the sort. Masoud, like many Tanzanians, are ignorant of the curriculum, even degree programs offered at SUA. The original BSc Agriculture of SUA offered in 1980s, had specialisations and final year students used to specialise in different fields including Agricultural Economics. People like Prof. Anna Tibaijuka graduated from SUA with BSc Agriculture with specialisation in economics and today she is leading UNHABITAT. Since the 1990s SUA has been a dgree of MSc. in Agricultural Economics. Recently, SUA started degree programs in Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness and an MBA with biase to agriculture. My dear Masoud agriculture is a sector, not farming. The degree of agriculture offered by SUA considers all components of agriculture, from engineering, economics, communication, processing etc.
Being a graduate of SUA does not mean that you are committed to a farm or the likes. Even more, people have natural talents. Masoud never attended a university offering a degree in "cartoonology", but he is doing fine with his toons. Likewise, Tracy chapman has a degree in Agriculture but chose the music career. One of the best music producers in Tanzania Hermes B, is graduate of SUA. Do you remember Prof Madundo Mtambo, a man who shocked Simba SC in the 1980s? A SUA graduate. Graduates of SUA have prospered in different fields (not just banking) including politics where you have people like Prof. Msolla, David Mathayo, Hawa Ghasia, Jumanne Maghembe etc.
The secret is, financial institutions that employ student from SUA are impressed by their perfomances, and thats not just CRDB. PRIDE Tanzania is proud os SUA graduates, so is FINCA and NMB. Afterall, all those people employed in Tanzanian banks are not graduates of BCom, or finance, or Banking. Most of them have degrees and they undergo inhouse training. The best ones prosper, like the SUA graduate you see behind the counter. Be warned that SUA graduates are doing fine in agriculture itself. A good example is Shambani graduates, a company formed and owned by young SUA graduates. I dont believe that Masoud's father-in-law has a degree in agriculture? I gues he own farmms in Mbeya...au hii ndio Bongo?

Masoud is right. SUA graduate are trained to work in Agriculture or agriculture related issues, if not science and not to become cashier/tellers in banks. There is nothing like B.Sc./BA. Banking at SUA. This applies to many other Universities where many graduate desparate for jobs end up in really wrong and low quality carriers as bank tellers. I don't imagine a person toiling the hard way to graduation with B.Sc. Agribusiness or whatsoever from SUA,,,, ending up counting other people's money instead of his/hers!?? But the biggest shock is that the graduates themselves are happy to be taken for a ride for such low profiled jobs which fit most form 4 or certificate holders!

Probably, we are building up a pile of useless graduates!

 

[kuruptkingpin]

I don't imagine a person toiling the hard way to graduation with B.Sc. Agribusiness or whatsoever from SUA,,,, ending up counting other people's money instead of his/hers!??

Probably, we are building up a pile of useless graduates!

So who should count other peoples' money? A graduate of BCom?
Banking is not about counting other peoples money ... there is more to banking

 

[kanda2]

sasa mbona umekuja na jina lingine bana? arrrrg

bwana shamba uliona wapi tangazo la kazi wanataka banker alafu qualification wanataka mwenye degree ya SUA? au ushasikia Silicon Valley wanajiri mabwana shamba? bwa ha ha ha ha

hebu naimbie rule za inform system v/s HR

asikusumbue huyo ni kama DR.Shayo wa UK mtu kasoma mazingira anajifanya mchumi.huyu ndio hamnazo kabisa mtu wa IT utawEZaje HR?nadhani anapokea simu kitengo cha HR ndio kajiona ni HR.

wanataka kutuambia kuwa banker sio professional? serikali isingepoteza pesa kumtafuta kocha wa mpira toka Brazil kama suala kila mtu anaweza kuingia kwenye fani yeyote.

WATU KAMA HAWA WA SUA ndio waliotuulia mashirika ya UMMA.au kuyauza kwa bei ya bure.

 

[Limbani]

Ndugu zangu, let's look at the qualification for obtaining MBA? Any first or second class degree whether Geologyl or eneginnerine or science! And an MBA graduates can work anywhere... Banking institution is not all about money but also how to make money! And money can be made on agriculture, fishing, mining etc

BCom inasaidia kufanya financial auditing, lakini kuna environmental auditing, mining auditing etc ambazo zinahitaji watalaam zaidi! Ndio maana nasema BANK is not only about counting money, its how to manage money! And money management involves all discplines!
Casheir and counters are part of the banking system!

 

[Crashwise]

Masudi mwenyewe naskia kaishia form 3 kwahiyo vitu complex kama hivi ni vigumu kuvielewa.

WEwe umekomea wapi! na unakipi cha kujivunia...kama kweli amekomea F3 basi jamaa kichwa ni mbunifu kuliko hata walio na Elimu ya juu zaidi yake kutwa..

 

[Crashwise]

sasa mbona umekuja na jina lingine bana? arrrrg

bwana shamba uliona wapi tangazo la kazi wanataka banker alafu qualification wanataka mwenye degree ya SUA? au ushasikia Silicon Valley wanajiri mabwana shamba? bwa ha ha ha ha

hebu naimbie rule za inform system v/s HR

uuuuuuuuuuuuwiiiiiiiiiiiiiii mpe mpe......tuko pamoja

 

[Chimunguru]

Masoud alikuwa na maana yake hata hivyo nenda voda kitengo cha customer care wapo kibao wanapokea simu na wengine ma meneja its all wastage of resources mtu kasomea mambo ya udongo mwingine nutrition mwingine mambo ya wanyamapori anapokea simu pale wakati huko mashambani tunaona hakuna kinachoendelea

 

[Mbogela]

Je Masoud alisema specifically wanafanya kazi ya bank teller? Alitaja kazi specific? katuni yenyewe iko wapi?

Ustake ncheke kumbe katuni yenyewe hata hamjaioona, sasa mwabishania nini? kwi wki wkiw kwi Gonga kwenye katuni kuona ujumbe wake! mweeeee!

 

[Hofstede]

Masoud kipanya, recently posted a cartoon, depicting a SUA graduate working in bank with a line saying "Hii ndio Bongo, nimemaliza chuo kikuu cha kilimo cha sokoine lakini niko kaunta benki", a statement of the sort. Masoud, like many Tanzanians, are ignorant of the curriculum, even degree programs offered at SUA. The original BSc Agriculture of SUA offered in 1980s, had specialisations and final year students used to specialise in different fields including Agricultural Economics. People like Prof. Anna Tibaijuka graduated from SUA with BSc Agriculture with specialisation in economics and today she is leading UNHABITAT. Since the 1990s SUA has been a dgree of MSc. in Agricultural Economics. Recently, SUA started degree programs in Agricultural Economics and Agribusiness and an MBA with biase to agriculture. My dear Masoud agriculture is a sector, not farming. The degree of agriculture offered by SUA considers all components of agriculture, from engineering, economics, communication, processing etc.
Being a graduate of SUA does not mean that you are committed to a farm or the likes. Even more, people have natural talents. Masoud never attended a university offering a degree in "cartoonology", but he is doing fine with his toons. Likewise, Tracy chapman has a degree in Agriculture but chose the music career. One of the best music producers in Tanzania Hermes B, is graduate of SUA. Do you remember Prof Madundo Mtambo, a man who shocked Simba SC in the 1980s? A SUA graduate. Graduates of SUA have prospered in different fields (not just banking) including politics where you have people like Prof. Msolla, David Mathayo, Hawa Ghasia, Jumanne Maghembe etc.
The secret is, financial institutions that employ student from SUA are impressed by their perfomances, and thats not just CRDB. PRIDE Tanzania is proud os SUA graduates, so is FINCA and NMB. Afterall, all those people employed in Tanzanian banks are not graduates of BCom, or finance, or Banking. Most of them have degrees and they undergo inhouse training. The best ones prosper, like the SUA graduate you see behind the counter. Be warned that SUA graduates are doing fine in agriculture itself. A good example is Shambani graduates, a company formed and owned by young SUA graduates. I dont believe that Masoud's father-in-law has a degree in agriculture? I gues he own farmms in Mbeya...au hii ndio Bongo?

Ndugu yangu yule jamaa ni KIPANYA, kama humjui uliza vizuri, jamaa ana kipaji cha asili!. Sasa usibishane na mwenye Kipaji cha asili wakati wewe unakipaji cha kufundishwa!

Nafikiri niishie, kama utakuwa umenielewa nadhani itakuwa ni bora zaidi.

 

[Kigogo]

I am against you all. SUA inatoa wataalamu wa aina mbalimbali, for instance Economics, Rural Sociology........Graduate kama huyo anafit mahali kama bank. Msiwe malimbukeni wa mitazamo hasi (-)......

rural sociology ni kasehemu tu ka programme ya degree and hiyo unayosema economics hata mimi Prof.Mlambiti alinifundisha but it is not enough kujiita mimi mwanauchumi kwa kuwa nimesoma kozi moja ya economics!!! we need proffesionals katika kila field...Mbona hatujaona madaktari toka muhimbili wamekuwa ma loan officer bank?? then between us and you nani mwenye mtazamo hasi..Think!!!

 

[Kigogo]

It is very ignorant of whoever that is to think that you have to have a degree in Accounts to be an Accountant or a degree in Banking to work in a Bank. What you don't know or even realise is a degree provide most graduates with a knowledge and skills necessary to enable them to work in different areas within any organisation. I mean you can work in just about any area in an organisation if you are right minded and have the enthusiasm to learn new skills. I graduated in Information Systems but I work as HR Adviser?? What the job was looking for was someone who is willing to take challenges, work on their own initiatives and have excellent interpersonal skills, and these are the things gotten me a job. Ehe come on Tanzanian lets us think BIG for once why look at things through the box? Spread your wings!!!!!!!!!!

then if what i have underlined is true ,you are not a proffesional rather an opportunist..a well blended scholar cannot praise him/herself that iam an IT person and i work as a HR advisor,by the way you dont know what you are advising to that company..I wish i ningejua huyo aliyekuajiri otherwise kama ni kampuni ya mzee wako then you deserve to be a HR advisor

 

[Kigogo]

bwa ha ha ha walahi kazi ipo......na wale wa BBA waliosoma kijisomo kimoja cha LAW nao wanaruhusiwa wawe mawakili etal?

hahaaaaa kwa kweli inabidi wawe wamasheria kwa mtazamo wa Yo Yo

 

[Kigogo]

You are wrong, Shmabani graduates is a limited company, they produce milk related products sold in Morogoro and many other regions. Its not an NGO that could syphone money from the donors!!! they take loans, not grants

i can categorically tell you i accessed one of their proposed they applied for a grant with DFID where i work as a technical Advisor and i find them not impressing and even meets the minimum requirements to qualify for the grant...so i know what iam saying ..it is not blal blal...the fact is SUA graduates are not ready to work in their areas of specializations.by the way Iam a graduate and iam working in my area of specialization...Tena nilisoma ile SUA ya zamani si hii yenu ya siku hizi ya semester iliyokuwa diluted..

 

[Fidel80]

personaly nawajua jamaa kadhaa wapo standard chatered bank na CRDB ni mma bwana shamba wa SUA...

Je wewe unakubali Bwana shamba wa SUA kuwa specialist wa IT kwenye bank? Maana kuna jamaa angu katoka huko ni bwana mifugo ananiambia yupo IT bank nilimwambia tema mate juu.