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Leader Of Islamic Group Killed in Detroit

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    Leader Of Islamic Group Killed In Raid


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    DETROIT -- The Detroit leader of a nationwide fundamentalist Islamic group was fatally shot during a series of FBI raids Wednesday afternoon.The FBI arrested 10 people who have ties to the group called the Ummah, which translates to "the brotherhood."The group's primary mission is to establish a separate sovereign Islamic state governed by Sunni law, according to FBI charging documents. Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, called his followers to an offensive jihad, rather than a defensive jihad.During the raid, Abdullah, aka Christopher Thomas, fired his weapon, said the FBI in a release. An FBI police dog was shot during the gunfire.The dog was transported via helicopter to an animal hospital in Madison Heights, but despite the rescue efforts, the dog died.

    The rest of the suspects were arrested at the Detroit raid on Tireman and Firwood roads and the Dearborn raid on Michigan Avenue and Miller Road without incident.

    Seven of the suspects appeared Wednesday afternoon in a detention hearing. The rest will appear before a judge Thursday.Before the raid, Abdullah and the 10 others were charged in a complaint with conspiracy to commit several federal crimes, including illegal possession and sale of firearms, arson, body armor and theft from interstate shipments.Named in the complaint are Mohammad Abdul Bassir, Muhammad Abdul Salaam, Abdul Saboor, Mujahid Carswell, Abdullah Beard, Mohammad Philistine, Yassir Ali Khan, Adam Hussain Ibraheem, Garry Laverne Porter and Ali Abdul Raqib.

    The group consists primarily of those who converted to Islam while serving sentences in various prisons around the county.The nationwide leader is believed to be Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rapp Brown. He is currently serving a life sentence in prison for the murder of two police officers in Georgia.Abdullah Al-Amin preaches violence against law enforcement officials and has trained members of the Ummah inside of a mosque located on Joy Road how to use firearms, martial arts, sword fighting and other types of self-defense in anticipation of government violence, according to the FBI.Undercover agents in the organization have told the FBI that Luqman Abdullah used to discipline its members starting at an early age by beating them with sticks on their hands, knees and legs and once he beat a little boy so badly that the child was unable to walk for several days.

    In October of 2008, a source the FBI called "credible" recorded statements by Abdullah at a mosque during prayer where he said that Muslims need to cut ties with Christians, Jews, and Kuffars, which the FBI said means all non-Muslims. "Obama is a Kafir. McCain is a Kafir, all the rest of them Kuffars, are Kuffars…. The worst Muslim is better than the best Kafir," said FBI documents.At this time, the FBI continues to seek Mujahid Carswell, Mohammad Alsahi and Yassir Ali Khan.

    Anyone with information is asked to call the FBI at 313-965-2323.

    Copyright 2009 by ClickOnDetroit.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/21454119/detail.html


     
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    hiyo ndo dini halisi ya kiislam bana, kuua kwao ni thawabu alaf wakiambiwa wanachochea ugaidi inakua balaa...there are massive criminals in states and other european countries that are converting to islam kwa sababu wanaona ndo dini inayoendana na matendo yao, mtakubalije kufundisha jinsi ya kutumia silaha msikitini? that means jambo hilo lina baraka kutoka kwa viongozi wakubwa wa hiyo dini. haya all the best...ila chondechonde msizipeleke hizo tabia nyumbani, sisi wa tz tushazoea kuishi kwa amani bana....
     
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    Nashangaa kwa nini USA/NATO hawatumii nuclear bombs afghanstan wakawamaliza taliban??
     
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    Luqman Ameen Abdullah

    After a 2-year investigation, FBI agents descended on a Dearborn warehouse Wednesday hoping to capture the suspected head of an Islamic fundamentalist group.

    The scene quickly turned chaotic, however, in a shootout that caused agents to gun down Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, leader of the Masjid Al-Haqq mosque in Detroit. Abdullah is accused in a federal complaint of heading a Sunni Muslim group with the mission of establishing a separate Islamic nation within the United States.

    Eleven other men were criminally charged in the raids, which also occurred in Detroit.

    Abdullah, known to some as Christopher Thomas, died after firing on officers during the raid, the U.S. Attorney's Office said. An FBI dog also was fatally wounded.

    The suspects "are members of a group that is alleged to have engaged in violent activity over a period of many years and known to be armed," a joint statement from the Detroit FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office said.

    Abdullah and the others were charged with conspiracy to commit several federal felonies, including illegal possession and sale of firearms and theft from interstate shipments.

    Three of the men charged were at large Wednesday night. The others are expected to appear in U.S. District Court in Detroit today for detention hearings.

    Abdullah spoke of attacking Super Bowl XL

    Abdullah believed he and his followers were soldiers at war against the government and non-Muslims.

    "Abdullah told his followers it is their duty to oppose the FBI and the government and it does not matter if they die," FBI agent Gary Leone said in an affidavit unsealed Wednesday. "He also told the group that they need to plan to do something."

    Abdullah, 53, of Detroit stayed true to his word Wednesday as armed FBI agents raided a Dearborn warehouse at Michigan Avenue and Miller. Four other suspects surrendered without incident. Authorities said Abdullah refused to surrender, opened fire and then died in a shootout in which an FBI dog also was killed.

    "We're not any fake terrorists, we're the real terrorists," Abdullah once boasted to an undercover informant, according to the affidavit.

    Agents also raided two Detroit homes, one in the 4400 block of Tireman and the other in the 9200 block of Genessee. The affidavits and returns for those warrants were sealed Wednesday.

    The U.S. Attorney's Office and the FBI in Detroit unsealed a 43-page document, however, describing a sinister, radical fundamentalist group allegedly headed by Abdullah. The document notes conversations he had with undercover agents and federal informants that ranged from talking about attacking Super Bowl XL in Detroit to blowing himself up as a final act of courage.

    "If they are coming to get to me, I'll just strap a bomb on and blow up everybody," he said in a March 21, 2008, conversation.

    Federal officials said Abdullah was the leader of a group that calls itself "Ummah, a group of mostly African-American converts to Islam, which seeks to establish a separate Sharia-law governed state within the United States."

    "The Ummah is ruled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, who is serving a state sentence ... for the murder of two police officers in Georgia."

    Brown came to prominence in the 1960s as a leader of the Black Panther Party.

    Referring to Abdullah, Leone said in the affidavit, "He regularly preaches antigovernment and antilaw enforcement rhetoric. Abdullah and his followers have trained regularly in the use of firearms and continue to train in martial arts and sword fighting."

    Why Abdullah and his followers chose Detroit as their haven remains unknown, Detroit FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold said Wednesday.

    According to the affidavit, Abdullah ran a mosque in a building on Joy Road in Detroit until he was evicted in January for delinquent taxes, causing a move to the 4000 block of Clairmount.

    Inside the mosque, authorities said, Abdullah conducted firearms training, spewed hate and sometimes violently disciplined children by beating them with sticks.

    He beat one boy "so badly with sticks that he was unable to walk for several days," Leone said in his affidavit.

    During the Jan. 20 eviction, police found two firearms and about 40 knives and martial arts weapons in Abdullah's apartment within the mosque, investigators said.

    Authorities said none of the charges levied Wednesday are terrorist-related, but U.S. Attorney Terrence Berg said the case is still under investigation. Abdullah and 11 suspects were charged with felonies including illegal possession and sale of firearms, mail fraud to obtain the proceeds of arson, theft from interstate shipments and tampering with motor vehicle identification numbers.

    Seven of the suspects were in U.S. District Court on Wednesday for initial appearances, one was in custody and three were still being sought.

    Even as FBI investigators kept tabs on Abdullah through surveillance, he urged his cohorts to learn of the agents' whereabouts.

    "Trail them, follow them, know where they house is at, and everything else," he told an informant, according to the criminal complaint. "You've got hundreds of agents right there off Michigan" Avenue.

    The reference was to the McNamara Building, the headquarters of the Detroit FBI.

    "The FBI knows that I will kill them," he said, adding that police also are targets, according to the affidavit.

    Imad Hamad, senior national adviser and regional director of the Dearborn-based Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee, said he received a call from the head of the FBI's Detroit office midday to tell him about the raid.

    Hamad said FBI Special Agent Andrew Arena told him that the case was "solely criminal" and had to do with "smuggling and fraud." He said Arena revealed few details of the investigation, but said it had been ongoing for about two years.

    Hamad said he didn't know the defendants.

    "Agents were trying to chase some people," Hamad said Arena told him, referring to the raid. "They were giving instructions to lay down. He resisted. He pulled a gun. They exchanged fire, he was shot down, killed. A dog ... was dead as well."

    The warehouse is near the heavily commercial intersection of Miller and Michigan.

    Dawud Walid, head of the Michigan Council on American-Islamic Relations, said Arena called him as well.

    Walid said he knew Abdullah.

    "I know him as a respected imam in the Muslim community," Walid said.

    Shadi Saad, the owner of Wellcare Pharmacy on Oakman in Dearborn, said he stepped outside before lunchtime to see several people in FBI jackets with guns going toward the warehouse across the street.

    He heard noises like shots and a short time later a helicopter descended.

    "It was like a movie scene for a minute," Saad said.

    He said he opened his business just 10 days ago. "This isn't the way I wanted it to start."

    Contact BEN SCHMITT: 313-223-4296 or bcschmitt@freepress.com. Staff writers Bill Laitner, Zlati Meyer and Amber Hunt contributed to this report.

    Killed

    Luqman Ameen Abdullah (a.k.a. Christopher Thomas), 53, of Detroit. Was shot and killed during the raids. He had been charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes, sale or receipt of stolen goods transported in interstate commerce, providing firearms or ammunition to a person known to be a convicted felon, possession of body armor by a person convicted of a violent felony and altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers.

    In court

    Mohammad Abdul Salaam (a.k.a. Gregory Stone), 45, of Detroit. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes and sale or receipt of stolen goods transported in interstate commerce.

    Abdullah Beard (a.k.a. Detric Lamont Driver), 37, of Detroit. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

    Abdul Saboor (a.k.a. Dwayne Edward Davis), 37, of Detroit. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

    Adam Ibraheem, 38, of Detroit. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

    Gary Laverne Porter (a.k.a. Mujahid LNU), 59, of Detroit. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes and possession of firearms or ammunition by a convicted felon.

    Ali Abdul Raqib, 57, of Detroit. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

    Mohammad Abdul Bassir (a.k.a. Franklin D. Roosevelt Williams), 50, of Ojibway Correctional Facility. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes, sale or receipt of stolen goods transported in interstate commerce, mail fraud, providing firearms or ammunition to a person known to be a convicted felon, possession of firearms or ammunition by a convicted felon and altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers.

    A.C. Pusha, charged with receiving and selling stolen goods transported in interstate commerce.

    At large

    Mujahid Carswell (a.k.a. Mujahid Abdullah), 30, of Detroit and Ontario. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

    Mohammad Alsahi (a.k.a. Mohammad Palestine), 33, of Ontario. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

    Yassir Ali Khan, 30, of Ontario and Warren. Charged with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.


    Source: FBI documents
     
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    Huu mji sasa tumevamiwa na inabidi kuhama wasije waksema wabongo/kiswahili speakers eti ni terrorists!
     
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    Extremism is always bad. Regardless of Faith Extremism is deadly bad and dangerous.
     
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    Mkuu,

    I will seriously take you up on this offer maana hapa hata hapasemeki.
    Tangia mwaka jana wakati uchumi wa The Big 3 ulipo-collapse, the trickle
    down effect hit all sectors. Kisha akaja Mayor mpuzi kabisa na Council
    yake ya mahayawani..bringing us some unnecesssary limelight.

    ..afu leo sasa hii kitu.
     
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    Ila kweli jamani, kwa nini mahayawani wachache wanaachiwa kuhubiri mauaji na ukatili? Na kuhubiri chuki dhidi ya dini nyingine? Mtu kama unaona Ukristo ni upotofu wa njia kamili ndo uwaue wakristo? Si utakuwa umempeleka jehanam kabisa? Kwa nini usitumie njia ya upole kumuelekeza kwenye uislamu?

    Wiki 2 zilizopita hapa London katika kitongoji cha Camden kulikuwa na maandamano makubwa ya waislamu (wale wa wanawake kuvaa ninja na wanaume kuva visuruali vifupi) walikuwa wanahubiri kuwa Yesu Kristo sio mwana wa Mungu, ni Nabii tu, uKristo ni uongo.... kuna haja kweli ya ku"downtrod" dini ya mwenzio?
     
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    koran ndo inavyosema. sio wao. hapo ndo utajua koran ni kitabu cha Mungu au jamaa litokewa na malaika wa giza akijifanya malaika wa nuru. kitabu cha shetani 100%
     
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    Huo ni mtazamo wako; huna haja ya kukishushia hadhi kitabu chetu kitakatifu na wala huna haja ya kumtukana Mtume wetu.

    Matatizo ya mtu mmoja mmoja au kikundi cha watu si issue ya dini;mbona kuna vikundi vingi sana vya ki-gaidi vinahusiana na wakristo mifano ipo wazi (LRA, Jamaa wa North Ireland, Sudan ya Kusini n.k) lakini haizungumzwi kama ni magaidi wa kikristo au christians fundamentalist na majina mengineyo myapendayo.

    Mbona hatusema biblia ndio inayowafundisha wayafanye hayo???
     
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    Unajua dini nazo wakati mwingine huchekesha ingawa zinaua. Hivi wanaabudu Mungu gani ambaye anapendelea umwagaji damu wa binadamu hovyo? Amri ya Mungu inasema very clearly, USIUE kwenye misahafu yote hiyo imo. Nadhani hao sio wacha Mungu ila Maagent wa Shetani tu. Kama misahafu wanayoifuata inasema anayeua kwa upanga atakufa kwa upanga, basi huyo bwana kapata kilicho haki yake. Wafuasi wake nao wakae kwenye mstari huohuo wakimfuata kiongozi wao.

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    Hivi Waislamu wazuri, kwa nini wasianzishe kampeni dhidi ya Waislamu wabaya? Wanaichafua sana dini yao.
     
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    Wamemuonea mkuu kwasababu ni Muslims hakuna kitu hapo UDINI tuu...mahakama ndiyo ingeweza kusema who was right or wrong
     
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    Sasa kinakuuma nini kama ni muslem jambazi? Wewe unafikir US wanafuga majambazi wa kidini kama Iran. Pole sana mdini wewe.
     
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    Angepelekwa mahakamani ambako justice ingefanyika hiyo shooting..inalenga kuua kwa makusudi watu kwasababu wanaamini dini tofauti ..ethnic cleansing...Lol hakuna kitu hapo na hakuna tofauti na kitu wanachofanya huko iraq na afghanistan mabomu..shame..
    Iran kuna majambazi kupita US lol utachekwa acha UDINI wako wewe
     
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