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Kwa wale wataalam wa kiswahil naomben mawazo ya hili

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Lugha' started by stan b, Sep 30, 2011.

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    stan b Member

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    niambieni mzizi wa neno ' ALIYETAPISHA' Mi nimkal lkn hil limenishinda, haya karibun kwa majib
     
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    Moseley Senior Member

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    tapika ndo mzizi wa hilo neno
     
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    klf Member

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    Kwenye kamusi mbalimbali, kutapisha mzizi wake ndio "tapika". Kama kamusi isemavyo kutapisha hutumiwa kueleza tendo la kufanya mtu atapike yaani kutoa kitu tumboni kwa kupitia mdomoni. Kuna maana nyingine pia - kurejea mafundisho wapewayo wari jandoni au unyagoni.
     
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    Roulette JF-Expert Member

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    nadhani sio kiswahili kizuri na ndio maana tunashindwa kukielewa. ila moseley katoa mwangaza mzuri
     
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    Stanley. JF-Expert Member

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    Neno hilo lina makosa kisarufi lilipaswa liwe 'aliyetapikisha' kuna mazoea ya kufanya udondoshaji kwa makosa kwa kutoa 'k' hapo mzizi ni -tapik- ndio maana tunapata tapik-a, tapik-i-a, tapik-i-an-a halikadhalika tapik-ish-a. Hapo kwanza. Sarufi ni sayansi haina ukali.
     
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    Mphamvu JF-Expert Member

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    KAMA mzizi ni -tapik-, vipi kuhusu neno matapishi, nako kuna udondoshaji?
     
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    gmcmp New Member

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    tapikisha na neno matapishi n maneno mawili tofauti neno tapikisha n kitenzi na neno matapishi n nomino kwahiyo huo ndio utofauti wake ndugu
     
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    Stanley. JF-Expert Member

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    Naona tatizo hapo lipo kwenye udondoshaji na uchopekaji. Pia asili ya neno inaweza kuchangia kuongeza ukakasi. Ngoja tuendelee kulifanyia kazi.
     
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    kingtuma Member

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    Kwa kawaida neno huweza kubadili mofolojia linapohama kategoria mf toka kauli ya kutenda kuwa kutendesha. Kwa neno "tapisha" mzizi ni -tapish- ikumbukwe vitenzi vingi vyenye asili ya kibantu huishia na irabu -a- ktk kitenzi halisi na
    ukiondoa hiyo -a-unapata mzizi
     
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    Roulette JF-Expert Member

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    tafadhali toa mfano tukuelewe vizuri point yako...
     
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    Stanley. JF-Expert Member

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    Neno hata likihama kategoria nyingine mzizi huwa haubadiliki, vitakavyobadilika ni viambishi vilivyochopekwa. Hivyo kama nilivyosema awali ukilichunguza hilo neno utagundua kuwa mzizi ulipaswa uwe tapik- ila sasa watumiaji ufanya udodondoshaji. Udondoshaji wenyewe utokana na dhana ya akilini kuwa K- ni kauli ya kutenda na ish ni kutendesha hvyo anapotaka kuonesha usababishi au utendeshi hudondosha k-. Ikumbukwe kuwa k- ya hapo haiwakilishi kauli za matendo.
     
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