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Kikwete kawaokoa Wabunge wa CCM?

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Mzee Mwanakijiji, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Ilikuwa Zitto afungiwe vikao viwili vya Bunge na hiyo ingemleta hadi kikao cha kwanza cha mwakani. Pamoja na hayo ufafanuzi uliotelewa na Spika mara baada ya kufungiwa ilitajwa kuwa Zitto kafungungiwa kushiriki vikao vya Bunge na Kamati. Unless niwe nimekosea, leo tunaambiwa kufungukiwa kwake kunakoma in three weeks.. what happened? ja JK inawezekana ameamua kupunguza makala ya hasira za wananchi kwa kumrudisha mwakilishi wao Bungeni kabla ya muda wa adhabu kuisha?
     
  2. Gaijin

    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    kikwete aweze kuwa kang'amua kuwa upinzani unashika chati kwa jambo lililokuwa dogo, ambalo kwa kufukuzwa kwake kumewapa sauti kubwa wapinzani kiasi cha kuwa wafadhili wameanza kupiga kelele na utawala wa kikwete.

    hii yote ni katika jitihada za kurudisha imani ya utawala wake kwa wafadhili
     
  3. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    sasa kwanini wasiseme tu kuwa mitishamba ya hekima za kisupika zimetumika..?
     
  4. 255Texter

    255Texter Senior Member

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    Mkuu Mwanakijiji, i stand corrected if i'm wrong, lakini hii statement kwamba adhabu ya Zitto imekuwa ya wiki tatu si inamaanisha kwamba hataudhuria vikao vyote vya bunge linalokaa hivi sasa, ambalo muda wa vikao hivyo ni wiki tatu, then linaahirishwa mpaka Januari mwakani. So in essence, hiyo adhabu ya Zitto bado ime-stand vilevile kwamba hatahudhuria vikao vya bunge mpaka Bunge litakapokutana January-2008.
     
  5. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    hapana, baada ya kikao cha kawaida cha Bunge Novemba 16, kesho yake anaweza kuingia kwenye vikao vya kamati.. (adhabu inaisha novemba 16)
     
  6. Kasheshe

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    Mzee Mwanakijiji usipotoshe watu!!! Spika ameweka wazi,,, mambo ya mpaka Bunge la January sijui Feb, ilikuja tu kama tafsiri ya watu kwamba kama hatakuwa bungeni kipindi hiki then the next kikao ni hicho cha January sijui Feb. watu walitafsri vikao...na sio adhabu kamili...hili ni tatizo letu wabongo na waandishi wetu...

    Ndio hao hao walisema mpaka Zitto apewe barua...

    Lakini kwa mtizamo mpana, baada ya kifungo cha kikao hiki, ataendelea na shughuli zake... hivyo atahudhuria kamati,,, na mshahara atapata mzima,,, na kama kutakuwa na kikao cha Bunge cha Dharura atahudhuria pia...

    Hakuna kilichobadilika jamani,,, punguzeni kuongozwa na mioyo yenu, tangulizeni kuongozwa na akili zaidi....
     
  7. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    angalia kauli yangu ya kwanza.. kama watu walielewa hivyo miye basi ni mmojawapo, kwanini huwezi kusahihisha kitu hadi iwe mtu anapotosha? Nimesema "unless niwe nimekosea"... Naomba usome adhabu aliyoomba Mudhihir ilikuwa ni ipi?
     
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    Mr EWA JF-Expert Member

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    Hapa naona tunachanganyana,basi mwenye kuweza kuelezea mwanzo adhabu ilikuwaje na sasa nini kimebadilika nafikiriri tutaweza kuelewa vizuri badala ya kuchanganya mambo na kufanya hata wanaosoma hapa wataona kama ni kijiwe cha udaku.
     
  9. Kasheshe

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    Unakumbuka Zitto alitolewa kwenye kikao kilichokua kinaendelea + kikao hiki cha October/November,,, aljebra inasema?
     
  10. Shukurani

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    Kumaliza mjadala huu, mwanakijiji hebu tupe kilichosemwa na spika ile siku ya adhabu inatolewa,maana umeanzisha hoja kwa kutanguliza defence statement
     
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    Mnajadiliana nini hapa?, mimi hata sielewi.
     
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    Mzee Mwanakijiji watu washaathiriwa na kauli za serikali, ooh! anapotosha, mara Uzushi, mara ana lengo la kuchonganisha nk.

    Kwa taarifa yenu, mdhihiri alitaka mpaka iwe january ndo adhabu yake iishe, la pili hivyo vikao viwili vimekaa lini? Nikihesabu tangu afungiwe hiki ni kikao cha kwanza kukaa akiwa nje, au walihesabu na kile kilichomfungia?

    Kuhusiana na barua, aliwahi kuulizwa kwa nini Zitto hajapewa barua, akasema ni uzembe wa sekretarieti yake akijitetea kuwa siyo yeye anayepaswa kuandika hiyo barua; cha kushangaza sasa anaibuka akisema barua siyo lazima. Wakati anatoa jibu baada ya kuulizwa na waandishi alikuwa hajui hilo? Au watu wa sekretarieti ndo walimweleza utaratibu? Ikiimaanisha alikuwa haujui utaratibu?

    Juzi nimeshangaa alivyoibuka na Kanuni za Bunge akisahau majibu aliyotoa kwa waandishi!
    Huenda nao hawazisomi vizuri hizo kanuni, wanazima moto!
     
  13. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Hume, wanafikiri hatujui taratibu za Bunge. Mudhihir alipotoa hoja ya Zitto kufungiwa alitakiwa apendekeze na adhabu. Sasa Adhabu aliyopendekeza ni ipi, na kwa vile hoja yake iliungwa mkono ina maana na adhabu ilikubalika. Sasa leo wanageuka kinyume nyume nini?
     
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    Ni uelewa mdogo tu, bado kama hakutakuwa na Kikao Cha Bunge cha Dharura, Mh. Zitto ataanza kuhudhuria kikao cha January... huelewi nini hapa!!!


    Spika hajabadilisha kitu chochote,,, ameongeza maelezo ya ziada muelewe tu, kwamba adhabu rasmi inaishia vikao viwili, ambacho cha mwisho ni hiki hapa... lakini kikao rasmi cha bunge atakachokuwepo ni Januari.

    Haki zake zitaanza kulipwa full kuanzia mwisho wa kikao cha pili,, ambacho ni hiki kinachoendelea...

    maana nadhani mnataka kusema mmeweka pressure spika akabadilisha kitu hakuna... ni uelewa wenu ulio na pazia la....


    Hivi mlianza kuacha hesabu tangu darasa la kwanza au chekechea?
     
  15. KadaMpinzani

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    nikuulize kitu ?

    kabla hujanipa ruhusa bana mie sina muda hapa, nauliza tu are you after zitto au wananchi wa tanzani ? everywhere, zitto, zitto, zitto, zitto ! karamagi je ?
    LOL
     
  16. Idimi

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    Nadhani inaeleweka
     
  17. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    na hili nalo
     
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