Kenya naval ships shell and bomb Kismayo

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  1. Nairoberry

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    Kenyan warships have shelled the
    Somali port of Kismayo. Kenya says
    it shelled the al-Shabab-controlled
    port city of Kismayo after Kenyan
    ships came under fire.
    Kenyan military spokesman, Cyrus
    Oguna, said ”they fired at us and
    we fired back.” Oguna says Kenya
    Defense Force ships routinely
    patrol the area, but this is the first
    time that they have engaged in
    combat in Kismayo. He said he
    could not confirm casualties at this
    time.
    Militants blamed Kenyan forces for
    the attack. A Kismayo resident who
    prefers to give just his first name,
    Mohamed, said that the first
    shelling started just after three in
    the morning.
    The warships at the coast of
    Kismayo started shelling the port,
    Mohamed says the warships
    started the shelling and al-Shabab
    returned fire. He said the shelling
    stopped for a few hours before
    resuming midmorning.
    The second shelling, which started
    just before 6:00 am local time, hit
    a house near the port, injuring an
    eight-year old boy.
    The sister of the injured boy told
    said that the shell landed outside
    their home as the family was
    getting ready to start their day.
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    m.voanews.com/1120702.html
    seems the kenya navy will capture kismayo ahead of tha army
     
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    while alshaabab heat nairobi they heat kismayo.that's just part of a game.
     
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    i believe in the kenyan navy more than the army in terms of perfomance. kenya navy is ranked the third most powerful navy in sub sahara africa.
     
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    They may capture Kismayo but what about Nairobi, is it safe enough?
     
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    Heat harder these Terrorist
     
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    The warships were there on
    purpose, one, either to take
    enemy fire and determine what
    type of anti-ships weaponry the
    Al-Shabaab had and can use, and
    two, how the Al-Shabaab could
    respond to a naval onslaught
     
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    That has been done severally in the past -there are no surprises to learn on both these queries now. This latestKismayo Naval activity was cover for a larger-than-usual SOC covert insertion at 03H00, and a subsequent extraction late same morning with some high-value Local Assets. Hummint, Mapping and Recon. Nothing to do with a tit-for-tat maneno AS is bragging about.
     
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    gotcha mate
     
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    Do you think that rank and the attacking Kismayo will make Nairobi and entire Kenya at ease????!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Jino kwa jino.
     
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    Kenya Navy and us marine test fire a heavyweight Mark 60 CAPTOR (Encapsulated Torpedo)torpedo from the Kenya navy ship Uhuru in this 2009 photo
    Random cool picture: US and Kenya Navy training off Mombasa coast in the Indian Ocean | Breaking News Kenya

    Kenyahas said it will spend billions to be the naval power in Indian ocean region alongside India
    Parliamentary Budget Committee has recommended Sh3.6 billion payment for a contract entered in 2003 for construction of a Kenya Navy ship.
    Taxpayers will have forked out more than Sh5 billion for the vessel built in Spain if the payment is made in July as recommended in a report tabled in the House on Wednesday.

    This is Sh1 billion higher than the Sh3.9 billion initial cost of the ship expected to be delivered on July 2 if full payment is made to Spanish manufacturer, Euromarine.
    In 2007, Parliament heard Sh1.55 billion had already been paid to the Spanish contractors before the process was stopped over grand corruption.
    The report tabled on Wednesday by committee chairman Adan Keynan says the Defence Ministry and Euromarine have agreed on the payment terms and the delivery schedule of the naval vessel.
    approve payment
    In total, the Government is required to pay 34 million Euros (Sh3.6 billion) so that the ship christened MV Jasiri can be delivered by July 2.
    It adds the Treasury provided Sh1 billion in the supplementary budget as part payment.
    The balance is Sh2.9 billion, according to the report, although calculations indicate the difference has been prioritised in the budget for the 2012/13 financial year.
    On May 2, 2007 then chairman of the Defence and Foreign Relations Committee GG Kariuki implored Parliament to approve the payments after leading a fact-finding mission to Spain.
    The then Laikipia West MP explained the money, which was involved in building the ship was Sh3.9 billion of which Sh1.55 billion had been paid.
    By June 2006, he added, Sh1.833 billion had not been paid, which included interest, penalties and installments.
    He said the ship was 98 per cent ready and only remained to be fitted with armaments. And subject to full payments officers would be trained on how to operate the vessel.
    The House heard the MV Jasiri weighs 140 tonnes, was 85 metres long and 13 metres wide. It was billed as the only one of its kind in East and Central Africa.
    Standard Digital : Kenya : Budget team approves Sh3.6b for Kenya Navy ship..
     
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    wakenya washamba sana, yaani limbukeni kuliko watu wote duniani.
     
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    yap, afadhali wewe umesema!
     
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    kwa hiyo kenya ni ya washamba kwa ajili ya kupanga kununua meli za kivita? hivi karibuni navy ya kenya itamiliki bahari indi yote pale inapakana na bara la africa kenya pia inalinda pwani yetu ya tanzania mara kwa mara meli za kivita za kenya usafiri eneo lote la tz mpaka msumbiji bila pingamizi lolote kutoka izo nchi maana haziwezi pinga meli hizo za kivita za kenya.
     
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    wewe kibwengu kusema aseme mwingine kuninukuu uninukuu mimi, ndo nikueleweje?
     
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    class 7
     
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    ha ha ha wewe ni sawa na kunguni. ni bora nikuache kama ulivyo.
     
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    ..Kenyans were just retaliating.

    ..kama hawa kweli wamedhamiria waingie huko watembeze kichapo.

    ..Al-Shabab hawaelewi lugha nyingine zaidi ya ukatili na unyama.

    ..U have to instill fear on Al-Shabaab, in order to bring them to submission.

    ..the question is: Je askari wa Kenya wanaweza kuwa wakatili zaidi ya Al-Shabaab??
     
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    The US and all its NATO allies could not tame Afghanistan as yet, after how many years and much US$ spent?

    Cost of war $533,471,776,321 (five hundred thirty three billion four hundred seventy one million seven hundred seventy six thousand and still counting).

    Can Kenya cough up even 5% of that for starting it with Somalis?
     
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    Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) -- Kenyan soldiers, as part of African Union forces in Somalia, captured the key Al-Shabaab-controlled town of Afmadow on Wednesday, according to a Kenyan Defence Force spokesman. "We now control Afmadow with our troops," Maj. Emmanuel Chirchir told CNN. The operation started early Wednesday, he said, with KDF forces capturing the town of Hayo. Six Al-Shabaab militants were killed in that operation. "(The troops) then moved straight onto Afmadow," said Chirchir.

    New push against militants in Somalia

    Military analysts believe that Afmadow is a key step in Kenya's campaign against Al-Shabaab, the Islamic militant group they have been fighting since they entered Somalia in October of last year. The town would serve as a staging point for any move on Kismayo, Al-Shabaab's stronghold in southern Somalia. "Afmadow is an important administrative town that was supplying Al-Shabaab fighters with money. It was their nerve center," said Chirchir. "After the fall of Amfadow there is only Kismayo."

    Last week, the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) said it, along with Somali troops, had launched an offensive against militants in the Afgoye corridor, a densely-populated enclave near the volatile Somali capital of Mogadishu. The corridor, which has been controlled by the al Qaeda-backed Al-Shabaab, is populated with one of the largest populations of internally displaced people. The African Union said the militants have blocked many aid agencies from operating in the area. The campaign was "going well," AMISOM spokesman, Lt. Col. Paddy Nkunda said last week. "Al-Shabaab tried to fight, but they know they are about to lose Afgoye and our soldiers broke through their early resistance.

    " Al-Shabaab announced in February that it was tightening its ties to al Qaeda. It has long been considered a terrorist movement by the United States. Al-Shabaab has waged an insurgency against Somalia's feeble Transitional Federal Government since 2007, but has suffered recent setbacks in its heartland in southern Somalia. AMISOM and government forces drove Al-Shabaab fighters from the center of Mogadishu last year, while Kenyan troops crossed into southern Somalia in October to hit back for a rash of kidnappings it blamed on the group. Despite their efforts, however, Al-Shabaab has continued to launch terror attacks in the capital. In a second operation, 14 Al-Shabaab militants were killed and 10 others injured Tuesday when a Kenyan Defense Forces naval ship engaged with militants at an Al-Shabaab seaport watch station, the KDF said.

    "The incident occurred when a KDF naval ship was conducting routine sea patrol in the vicinity of (the) port of Kismayu," according to a KDF statement. Two on-shore structures were destroyed, officials said. Elsewhere, in Fafadun, 20 Al-Shabaab militants surrendered to KDF, officials said.

    Kenyan forces take Somali town from militants - CNN.com
     
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    this intel was out through grapevines as early as Monday. The Kenya Defence Forces without backing of tanks in theater are doing a pretty nice job. I heard someone doubting KDFs ability to act as an aggressor, it all settles to doctrine and strategy coined for each and every operation. Am proud of these guys.
     
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    The fall of Al-Shabaab manifested in the last weeks of May 2012 bringing to focus the role of key defense forces involved in the peace process in Somalia. Intelligence audit on the role of Kenya Defense Forces, KDF, authenticates a very logical matrix that lays bare how events shaped by KDF have shaped an end game to Al-Shabaab influence and military power in Somalia.


    The entry of KDF in Somalia in October 2011 shocked the world; it was a case of a coward being up in arms after tolerating decades of suppression due to his tolerant self. This perception was wrong; Kenya is not cowardly rather the geopolitics of the country and its strategic importance underscores the need for multi-pronged efforts to stymie regional conflicts and internal security threats.


    Since the Ugandan intervention, UPDF and AMISOM never made headway in Mogadishu for half a decade. Al-Shabaab deployed hundreds of intelligence officers to gather intelligence on AMISOM and TFG. Al-Shabaab efforts resulted to deaths of hundreds of AMISOM soldiers. Previous efforts by Ethiopia led to near massacre of Ethiopian defense forces in South Somalia leading to a hasty retreat and exit. AMISOM had achieved almost nought by October 2011 rather Al-Shabaab was getting stronger and more organized.
    Between October 2011 and February 2012, KDF captured 14 strategic towns that were under the command and military wing of Al-Shabaab. (Busar, Inda El, Damase, El Afe, Faafahdhun, Dhobley, Qoqani, Tabta, Hayo, Dabilo, Raskamboni, Burgavo, Kulbio, and,Badhaadhe). It is only in January 2012 that AMISOM managed to make progress outside Mogadishu and last week took Daynille and Afgoye corridor. Only three major areas compared to strategic areas that served as bases and command locations for Al-Shabaab.
    AMISOM and Ethiopian forces continue to ask Kenya to deploy its military superiority to defile Al-Shabaab and speed up the military operations. The Kenya airforce can hit Afgoye and its outskirts. Kenya airforce jets pounded Jillib but have since then stopped.
    Analysis
    The KDF entry into the Somali war theater was the only solution to the Somalia problem. Events that have played out (The inroads made in Mogadishu, the fall of Afgoye, and the fall of Baidoa) and the results of these events, when pieced together fill up a puzzle that indicates progress and strategic value of KDF in the Somali war theater.


    It defines the Kenya army as very good in strategy and well equipped to counter militant outfits such as Al-Shabaab.
    The strategy deployed by KDF managed to destroy enemy resource mobilization, enemy troop movement, assembly and distribution of enemy weaponry including guns, bullets, and bombs, defiling the capacity of the enemy even in others areas it controlled.


    This trickle down effect is felt across Somalia where other foreign armies are operating including UPDF, the major player and pioneer of the military intervention in Somalia.


    The 14 towns mentioned were both bases and command centers besides serving as training grounds, logistics, and bomb assembly facilities. KDF destroyed both equipment and resources, besides Al-Shabaab human capacity.
    In comparison to the near decade UPDF-AU mission, the achievements on KDF were rapid and permanent while the UPDF-AU gains have consistently lacked cluster and benefit. The fall of Afgoye, Daynille, and Mogadishu comes many years after the UPDF-AU intervention and within the time, KDF launched its strategy for Somalia.
    KDF stifled flow of resources, training of fighters, and movement of key Al-Shabaab military forces besides destruction of most of the Al-Shabaab war-machine. These losses, both in resources and manpower weakened Al-Shabaab besides sent most of their fighters running north.


    The achievements made by AMISOM-UN coincide with when KDF intervened; meaning KDF played the central role in both shaping the future of Somalia, and routing Al-Shabaab. Secondly, KDF paved way for other key players like UPDF-AMISOM in making headway against Al-Shabaab.

    KDF Gains Shapes the Somali Future With Strategic Precision « Strategic Intelligence News
     
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    Napita tu.
     
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    Peace and stability in Somalia means peace in the whole region of the Horn of Africa.
    KUDOS KDF, TFG, UDF, Ethiopian and Burundi troops under the allience of AMISOM.
     
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    this is not yet fully confirmed terrorist al shabab have denied vehemently truth to be known kesho
     
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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/embed/tD0HrNbcgVU[/video]
     
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    Kumbuka ENDF-Ethiopia ndio walizidisha kaa la moto kuendelea kuchomeka kwa kucreate Alshabaab. Hivyo hawa wengine ni imposters tu! Amisom walikuwa na mamlaka mogadishu. Walpoona KDF inapata matokeo mema ndio wakawa imposters kusongea karibu na Afgoye. Kama huna Habari.
     
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    Afadhali upite tu, Mkuu nakwambia mambo mengine ukiyasoma humu unaweza kukosa pumzi - hivi kweli mtu mwenye akili timamu anaweza ku-water down role kubwa iliyofanywa na JESHI la UGANDA nchini SOMALIA!!! Nafikili kuna tatizo kubwa katika nchi zetu hizi, tukianza mambo ya kusema nchi fulani ni zaidi ya nchi nyingine tukakosa ushirikiano, Al-Shabaab watatumaliza kwa kuendekeza ujinga wetu - chukulia mfano wa Afghanistani, hivi Merikani inaweza kujitapa eti imeweza kuki-contain kikundi cha Watallebani/wakina Mulla OMARI! jibu ni hapana, actually Wamerikani wanaondoka huko come next year; Warusi waliwahi kuwaonya Wamerikani kuhusu ugumu wa kupigan na watu hawa lakini Merikani ikapuuzia now the Americans are regretting their own FOLLY! Bila nchi za Africa Mashariki kushirikiana kwa hali na mali AL-Shabaab watatupa wakati mgumu tusikae tunajidanganya hapa.
     

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