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Kama ni Demokrasia ya JF.. Piga kura yako: Wengi wape..

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Mzee Mwanakijiji, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Bila ya shaka mmeanza kuona pembeni kuna sanduku la Kura. Swali la Msingi ni kuwa Kuendelea na habari binafsi za ngono za viongozi ambazo hazihusishi uvunjaji wa sheria au kuingilia utendaji wao wa kazi hapa JF. Chukua msimamo na kura za wengi basi ndio wapewe na uamuzi wao uheshimiwe. Kwa vile JF ni eneo la demokrasia ambapo panastahili kuwa na heshima yake basi tuamue suala hili kwa kupiga kura na uamuzi wowote wa walio wengi uheshimiwe.

    M. M
     
  2. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    piga kura na songa mbele... we hujaona hilo bandiko hapo pembeni... ? au ukiwa Underground ndiyo huoni?
     
  3. KadaMpinzani

    KadaMpinzani JF-Expert Member

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    nilifikiri hoja hujibiwa kwa hoja !

    haya bana acha nisonge mbele !
     
  4. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Relax kada.. this is Friday.. Umepiga Kura?
     
  5. Madela Wa- Madilu

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    naomba nifafanuliwe ju ya huu usemi usemao ngono za viongozi ambazo hazihusishi uvunjaji wa sheria au kuingilia utendaji wao wa kazi.

    Je kuna mifano ya ngono zinazo vunja sheria ?

    Vile vile,Kuna ngono zinazoingilia utendaji wa kazi?
     
  6. Madela Wa- Madilu

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    Jamani tunaruhusiwa kupiga Kampeni kwenye PM za watu?

    Takrima, kama snack na pop za online? Ruksa?
     
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    Nurujamii JF-Expert Member

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    Kura zitaendelea kupigwa hadi lini? Kuna kikomo cha muda au idadi ya wapiga kura?
     
  8. YournameisMINE

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    Mwkjj,
    Hiyo ni nyingine ktk nyingi q'nable & losing position unachukua bila kutumia fikra 'sahihi' zako kama kweli unazo!!.
    Kula itapigwa vipi na kuwa fair, ilihali inajulikana kwamba kuna lukuki la memberz hapa ambao wana id's zaidi ya moja?. Kura hizi zitapigwa kwa muda gani? ni asilimia gani minimum ya members wanaotakiwa kupiga kura, ili matokeo hayo yawe halali? Na maswali mengi mengine!!!. Wewe ama kweli umeanza kuleta vioja na hiyo janja yako ya "kwapa kunuka bila kidonda."
    Unadhani kwamba umekomaa, lakini "sisi" vyongo viona mbali, hasa mie nimeona fatal weaknesses kwa upande wako ktk siku hizi chache zilizopita..............Moja wapo ni upofu wako wa makusudi/wakujitakia wa kutokuona kwamba ngono ni hoja halali ktk midani za kisiasa!!. Si tu kwamba ni halali bali kwa wale wanaokuwa na maadili ni winning tool popote pale dunia. Sina muda, mambo ya ED friday night.....lakini whatever itakavyokuwa matokeo ya kura hii hayatakuwa halali, yatakuwa yapo tainted, na badala ya kuboresha kama myopic minded wanavyodhani itakuwa a total opposite!!!!.
    Watu hapa inabidi tu wawe civil, watu wajifunze to agree to disagree........mstari lazima uchorwe, na tofauti ziwe za dhahiri badala ya viini macho. UPINZANI Tanzania unashindwa mara nyingi kwasababu wananchi hawaoni tofauti kati yake na CCM. Hii ni kimaadili ya kiserikali na yale ya kijamii.........Mbowe fuska, Kikwete fuska, wote wawili pia mafisadi, wewe unafikiri mwisho wa siku nani atachaguliwa? Lazima tofauti ziwepo, wanaohitajika ni watu safi!!! Hata kwa mungu ngono ni dhambi kubwa kushinda kura rushwa au ufisadi wa kusaini mkataba mbovu!!! ebo, where is the ambiguity? I go nuts kwamba watu hawaelewi kitu simple kama hii.........ufuska wa viongozi ni halali kuzungumziwa ktk hii political battle kama mabadiliko ya kweli yanategemewa!!!!!.
    Cheerz, weekend njema everybody. American Gangster, now playin' in the theater near you!!. Adios, muchas gracias.
     
  9. KadaMpinzani

    KadaMpinzani JF-Expert Member

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    babu, zamani ! tena nilikuwa wa kwanza ikaonyesha 100% !
     
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    Mwafrika wa Kike JF-Expert Member

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    mhh yaani siamini hii lugha ni kwa mtu anayejiita mstaarabu hapa kwenye forum. Wewe nawe uko flawed too ingawa unajisifia day after day hapa.

    kupiga kura haihitaji uwe member, unapiga tu hiyo kura wewe hayo ya watu kuwa na ID zaidi moja yatahusika vipi?

    kujipatia misifa tu ya bure. watu makini husifiwa na sio kujisifu kuwa wao ni makini.... geeeeez!

    kumekuwa na thread zaidi ya tatu za ngono hapa kwenye siasa na wala hujaonekana ukichangia. Ulilia kaa mtoto kuwa thread ya Mbowe irudishwe na iriporudi hujachangia chochote zaidi ya kujisifia all the time kuwa wewe unajua kuliko mkjjj. Kama Mkjj ndio standard yako ya mafanikio mbona umechemsha.

    Stand up like a man ufanye unachotaka na kupenda sio kulialia all the time...... unatia huruma sasa!

    unamtisha nani sasa kuwa huna muda, naona ushakuwa kama Mchambuzi the quiter moran maasai. Unaquit na kuanza kulia to hovyo. stop whining damn it!

    mbona unachukua higher point sana as if wewe ndio una elimu au ujuzi dhani everybody else hapa. Kila mtu anaplay part kama memba wa forum. mkjj kapresent hilo la kura na wewe unaweza kuleta la kwako. Come on too much whining sasa!

    haya ni maoni yako na sio consesus ya hitimisho la professional study ambayo sasa inabidi ifuatwe.

    Wewe mwenyewe umekaaa kimya huongelei hayo mambo ya ngono na unataka nani ayaongelee badala yako. mbona una nafasi sawa tu hapa ya kuanzisha thread zako za ngono na ukaziongelea!

    Maoni yako yanaweza kutofautiana na ya wengi hapa. Mbona hutaki watu wafanye choice? Unadai demokrasia na ukipewa unaanza kulia ohhh mawazo yako ni bora kuliko ya wengine! gooooosh
     
  11. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    YNIS, hutaki kilichoulizwa piga kura, porojo nyingi za nini? Mwafrika.. once again you amazes me (I know.. in so many other ways..).
     
  12. YournameisMINE

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    MwKike,
    Rxn yako ilikuwa xpected........sina haja ya malumbano, nimewakuta hapa JF kwahiyo mnaweza kuendelea na routine yenu!!. Kila laheri ktk kura hizi hopefully something good will come out of it!! Weekend njema, Celtics imeanza msimu kwa kishindo Wizards of Washington were no match.
     
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    YournameisMINE JF-Expert Member

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    Honestly, mie kura sipigi kwasababu sioni maana yake zaidi ya kuchora mistari miongoni mwa members. Uzuri wako ni kuwa huchukulii criticism personal, MAYBE and maybe sikubaliani na wewe lakini hiyo ni big plus kwa upande wako!!.
    Weekend Njema kaka.
     
  14. Gamba la Nyoka

    Gamba la Nyoka JF-Expert Member

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    Uwongo ukubaliwao na wengi katu hautabadili Thamani na umuhimu wa ukweli ukubaliwao na wachache.

    kwa hiyo wachache wapewe haki yao ya kujadili, na wengi wapewe haki yao ya kusikiliza/kutokusikiliza/kuchangia/kutokuchangia.

    cha muhimu ni kusisitiza hoja na si vioja kama baadhi ya members badala ya kuchangia hoja wakageuza picha ndo hoja zenyewe

    kura ya kuua uhuru na demokrasia ni kura batili.

    ni sawa na kura ya maoni ya kuulizia jamhuri ya muungano wa Tanzania iendelee kuwepo au isiwepo bila kuonyesha kwamba una lengo la kuunda nyingine iliyo bora zaidi
     
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    Mi naona kura zinaendelea, ubishi au ubishani havitasaidia! Hapa kwenye JF, napo pameshakuwa kama kambi fulani ya siasa, kwani hatuangalii tena hoja za membaz bali tumeshaanza hata kujipa, kupewa, au kupeana 'virtual' vyeo!!! Na kama kuna mbinu za kujipachika majina lukuki na kupiga kura lukuki ili kushindisha hoja, basi JF nayo itakuwa imekumbwa na ugonjwa ule ule wa UZANDIKI kama wa wanasiasa!
    Eneweyz, mi nshapiga kura yangu! Napenda kuwashauri au kuwakumbusha tu ndugu zangu wanaoendelea kupiga kura humu kuwa MAISHA YA KIONGOZI YEYOTE, KWA ASILIMIA KUBWA, SI MAISHA BINAFSI KAMA YA KINA MASULUPWETE! Matendo yake wakati wote, yatachukuliwa kuwa ndio kioo cha uongozi wake na utendaji wake katika utumishi wa umma. Hayatakiwi yawe siri au yakwepe kurunzi la macho ya umma anaoutumikia!
     
  16. KadaMpinzani

    KadaMpinzani JF-Expert Member

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    hapo ^^ you are making me think why i even bothered to vote !
     
  17. Gamba la Nyoka

    Gamba la Nyoka JF-Expert Member

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    Kwanza katika habari zilizoletwa kuhusiana na ngono za viongozi ni zipi ambazo hazihusishi uvunjaji wa sheria?.

    Inabidi tupigie kura kitu ambacho kipo, na si kupigia kura kitu ambacho hakipo.

    Iwapo tutakubaliana kwamba UGONI ni kosa kisheria basi poll hiyo hapo juu ni batili,
     
  18. KadaMpinzani

    KadaMpinzani JF-Expert Member

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    cha kushangaza ni kwamba, poll haijauliza hicho kitu !(kama ugoni ni batili au la )
     
  19. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Napendekeza kura zifungwe siku ya Jumatatu Jioni au Jumanne. Nyie pigeni kura, nani aliwahi kusema kuwa kupiga kura kumewahi kuwaridhisha watu wote? Kama watu wengi wataona hivi basi iwe hivi kama itakuwa vile basi itakuwa vile, kwanini mnahukumu matokeo kana kwamba yamefikia kikomo.
     
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    Mwakilishi JF-Expert Member

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    Mzee Mwanakijiji,

    Naomba ufafanuzi hapo nilipokolezea... what exactly do you mean? Vilevile kumbuka kuna tofauti kati ya habari binafsi za ngono za viongozi na ufuska? Sasa kama ufuska siyo subset ya ufisadi tutakuwa tunatwanga maji kwenye kinu!
     
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