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Je, unawajua CROWN AGENTS?

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    Game Theory JF-Expert Member

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    Kama mko serious kupiga vita UFISADI then mbona hawa hamuwazungumzii? Mnaogopa? basi msiogope mkiulizwa semeni nynyi pia mmeicopy from post ya GT sawa?

    anyway, website yao kuhusu Tanzania wanasema hivi:
    Hawa bwana ukiwaingilia ni kama vile unaingialia biashara za CROWN ya HRH au HER ROYAL HIGHNESS lakini vile vile lazima uelewe walianza anzaje mpaka leo unakuta wanaweza kuiambia serikali yoyote iliyotawaliwa na BRITISH cha kufanya na wakafanyiwa bila maswali and of course that includes the UNITED REPUBLIC OF TANZANIA

    Huwezi kuwazungumzia hawa jamaa bila kumkuta BILLIONAIRE Edmond Safra, HUWEZI KUZUNGUMZIA crown agents bila kuwazungumzia organisations zifuatazo:
    Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum

    Aga Khan Foundation

    School of Oriental and and African Studies
    (the best university in the world....sababu nitawapa baadae lakini its far far ahead of Oxford and Cambridge, Harvard, MIT, Yale etc)

    Christian Aid (hawa wapo sana hapa Tanzania lakini wamejazana majasusi tuu)

    Barclays Bank
    (sina sababu ya kuelezea saana hii in the wake or RADAR SCANDAL)

    Standard and Chartered Bank
    (Need i say more?)

    Unilever, (hawa ni major agricultural products cartel. Like Shell Oil, the company is Anglo-Dutch na connections zaidi zinaweza kuwafanya watu kadhaa serikalini kufadhaika kwa sababu ambazo mnazijua)

    Tate and Lyle, (Hawa ndio Britain's leading sugar cartel, ambao wana close corporate links American firm inayoitwa Archer Daniels Midland.

    Sasa hawa Tate and Lyle and ADM walishawahi kuwa under investigation
    U.S. Department of Justice for illegal monopoly practices na nakumbuka matop kadhaa wa ADM walikuwa indicted-connection na Tanzania? Tazama Ilovo walivyoshinda na kumonopolise mashamba ya miwa WHICH INCLUDES mtibwa sugar...

    Securicor plc
    ...nadhani mnawajuwa hawa


    Sasa leo TUKURU au PCCB wanataka ku-investigate UFISADI sidhani kama watafika mbali kwani haiwezekani na kila kitu kimejikita ile mbaya saa zingine bora tukatazame YANGA wanavyocheza na kurudi majumbani mwetu maaana haya mambo ya kudanganyana eti tutakula sahani moja na mafisadi hatuwezi kwani interconnectedness ya wahusika ni kubwa mno ...
     
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    Tukianza mambo ya kuwakingia kifua TAKUKURU hatutofika mbali! Tujikumbushe ya Wahenga:

    "From the elders of my tribe I leaned a wee story. Here it is in the original!

    “Wakasusu, nihe wagya?
    Nagya kwita Wanzugu!
    Oragya kutura?
    Ndagya kusaya-sayamu, Ndinukira

    Rabbit, where are you going?
    I am going to kill the Elephant!
    Can you do it?
    Well, I’ll try, and try again!"

    TAKUKURU/TANZANIA can do what it needs to do.

    TAKUKURU/TANZANIA must never give up.

    Kwa nini siku zote tunajifanya wanyonge?
     
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    Game Theory,
    Mkuu nakumbuka nilisoma mahala fulani ktk moja ya mada za humu kuhusu hawa jamaa..
    nakuomba utuelezee zaidi kuhusiana na nguvu ya hawa Crown maanake nimesikia sana wakizungumzwa lakini sikuwahi kabisa kufahamu wanachokifanya..
    Naomba darsa mkuu wangu
     
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    Crown Agents - The Queen's Managers
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    by Dean Andromidas
    Printed in The Executive Intelligence Review, August 22, 1997.


    Crown Agents, officially known as Crown Agents for Overseas
    Governments and Administration, occupies a non-descript office
    block in Surrey, in the suburbs of London. According to its
    literature, Crown Agents is a not-for-profit, private corporation,
    which carries out mundane logistical and administrative
    sub-contract work for the British Overseas Development
    Administration, and various development agencies and foreign
    governments. This is typical British understatement -- i.e.,
    strategic deception.

    Crown Agents is exactly what its name implies, an agent of Her
    Majesty the Queen. It was founded in 1833 as Crown Agents for the
    Colonies, and historically played a vital role in the creation and
    management of what British historians call the Third Empire. [1]
    While Lord Palmerston, Cecil Rhodes, Prince Edward Albert
    ("The Prince of the Isles"), and Lord Milner were providing the
    geopolitical theory and ideology to justify Britain's global
    empire, Crown Agents ran the day-to-day affairs. Crown Agents
    printed the stamps and banknotes of the colonies; provided
    technical, engineering, and financial services; served as private
    bankers to the colonial monetary authorities, government officials,
    and heads of state; served as arms procurers, quartermasters,
    and paymasters for the colonial armies. In effect, Crown Agents
    administered the British Empire, which at one point in the
    nineteenth century, encompassed over 300 colonies and nominally
    "independent countries" allied to the British Crown.

    According to its charter, Crown Agents is an "Emination of the
    Crown." This gives Crown Agents a status close to the monarchy,
    yet outside the official government structures of the United
    Kingdom. Through much of its existence, it was overseen by the
    Colonial Secretary and, later, in the so-called post-colonial era,
    by the Minister of Overseas Development. Although not formally
    a department of the government, Crown Agents' entire debt was
    guaranteed by the Exchequer.

    In 1996, as the British were in the process of unleashing the dogs
    of war in Africa, as the cutting edge of its final assault against
    the nation-state system worldwide, Crown Agents was "privatized,"
    under the new name, Crown Agents for Overseas Government and
    Administrations Ltd., with its own board of directors and
    management. In turn, Crown Agents functions as a holding company
    for dozens of operating companies and joint ventures. Its shares
    are held in trust by the Crown Agents Foundation, which is presided
    over by a board of directors and councillors, bringing together an
    impressive collection of governmental and non-governmental
    organizations, corporations, banking and business organizations,
    and so on (see article which follows) -- all from the inner core
    of the Club of the Isles and the formal Crown apparatus.

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    Providing functions in "difficult areas"


    According to its 1996 annual report, Crown Agents' numerous
    subsidiaries still carry out the same wide array of governmental
    functions, from printing postage stamps and bank notes, to running
    worldwide commercial shipping and air freight operations, to
    procuring arms and other logistical supplies. Crown Agents,
    according to spokesmen, specializes in providing these functions
    in "difficult areas."

    And, indeed they do. Today, Crown Agents functions as "agents"
    for over 150 foreign governments and organizations, which they
    refer to as "principals." In some instances, they manage vast
    real estate and financial portfolios, specializing in offshore
    banking "services." According to its recent public statements,
    Crown Agents manages over $3 billion worth of projects. Its
    asset management business alone, has a portfolio valued at over
    $1 billion.

    Typical of Crown Agent's current "discreet" operation are the
    following:

    + It manages the entire customs service for the government of
    Mozambique;

    + Through its chairmanship of a quasi-public entity called
    Europe SA, it is in charge of all economic reconstruction
    procurement for Bosnia;

    + Through a joint venture with a Monaco-based company called
    ES-KO, Crown Agents provides all of the food for United
    Nations peacekeepers in Angola and Bosnia. ES-KO also
    provides logistical services to private petroleum and mining
    companies in such "difficult" areas as Algeria and Colombia,
    and manages the privatization of the state sector of Ghana.

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    Her Majesty's Murder, Inc.


    By now, it may have dawned on some readers that Crown Agents'
    range of "services" -- arms procurement, border controls, offshore
    banking -- also nicely fit the "administrative requirements" of
    the world's organized crime cartels.

    In fact, a careful review of some of the more sordid aspects of the
    recent history of Crown Agents, suggests that the firm has been at
    the center of the British Crown's highly sensitive patronage of
    global organized crime -- what EIR long ago dubbed Dope, Inc.

    Crown Agents' extensive links to international organized crime
    surfaced in the mid-1970s, when the firm's over-extended real
    estate portfolio, particularly its London real estate investments,
    blew sky high. At the time that the London commercial real estate
    market collapsed, Crown Agents was managing a portfolio of assets,
    loans, and other financial paper, totalling more than £4 billion.
    Despite the fact that Crown Agents held no banking charter, it
    owned a string of banks all over the world, including some unsavory
    outfits in some of the most notorious hot-money havens of the
    Commonwealth.

    Much of the capital through which Crown Agents built up its real
    estate portfolio came from Third World governments, which made the
    unfortunate mistake of placing their trust in the Queen's favorite
    service agency. Crown Agents heavily leveraged its investment
    capital, building up debts far beyond its resources. When the
    1973 oil shock hit, and the real estate market was one of the first
    of the bubbles to pierce, Crown Agents, along with many other
    institutions that were heavily leveraged in the secondary banking
    markets, went broke.

    The Bank of England stepped in to bail out Crown Agents to the tune
    of several hundred million pounds -- more than a decade before the
    U.S. government would carry out a similar bailout of the savings
    and loan institutions, ravaged by similar commercial real estate
    speculation. The collapse of Crown Agents' real estate portfolio
    led to three governmental and parliamentary investigations.

    The surfacing of a wide criminal conspiracy was averted with the
    timely death of one of the key witnesses, the director of Crown
    Agents' money market operations, who purportedly blew his brains
    out shortly before he was to face trial on charges of corruption.
    According to news accounts at the time, this fellow, whose
    signature appeared on many of the most outrageous transactions,
    happened to be a heavy gambler. He had been a member of
    Crockfords, an elite gambling club, and two other casinos.
    He was a fixture at London casinos, often signing £1,000 checks.
    He had a home in Westminister, one of the most expensive sections
    of London, a country house, and three cars -- all on a
    middle-level civil servant's salary of £5,000 a year.

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    Part of "organized crime"


    A look at a sampling of Crown Agents' business partners at the
    time of the real estate blow out, is revealing.

    Crown Agents, up until 1983, managed the personal fortune of the
    Sultan of Brunei. The latter has been a funder of all sorts of
    private projects of Prince Philip and Prince Charles, as well as
    funding British intelligence operations all over the world. The
    Sultan was one of the key financiers of George Bush's Iran-Contra
    operations. So large was the task of managing this fortune, that
    when the Sultan withdrew his £3.5 billion, Crown Agents laid off
    400 employees.

    Crown Agents provided the capital for a number of offshore banks,
    especially during the 1960s and 1970s. One such bank that enjoyed
    the financial backing of Crown Agents was Trade Development Bank,
    then owned by Edmond Safra. A member of Prince Philip's 1001 Club,
    Safra was a prime target of investigation by U.S. drug enforcement
    agencies for many years. In 1990, his flagship New York City bank,
    Republic National, was identified as a favorite laundromat for both
    the Medellín Cartel and Lebanese-based heroin and hashish
    smugglers.

    It not only lent to banks of dubious origins, but held controlling
    interests in them as well. In 1967, Crown Agents bought a 40%
    controlling interest in the Bahamas-based E.D. Sassoon Bank. This
    was the first of a network of banks it invested in, or created,
    throughout the Commonwealth. This bank was founded in the
    nineteenth century by Sir David Sassoon, who founded banking houses
    in India and China, where they made their fortunes in the opium
    trade. The bank moved to the Bahamas in the 1940s, at precisely
    the point that the British Crown colonies there were being built up
    as hot-money centers. In 1967, it was controlled by Ralf Yablon,
    whose mother was a Sassoon. Yablon's wife was the daughter of
    Max Joseph, who at the time owned the famous Grand Met casinos.
    The other shareholders of the bank were Continental Illinois and
    Franklin National Bank. So dubious was the reputation of this
    bank that even the Bank of England initially refused to give its
    blessing to its purchase by Crown Agents. When the big bust
    occurred in the 1970s, E.D. Sassoon Bank was absorbed by the giant
    Standard and Chartered Bank, which now sits on the Crown Agents
    Board of Councillors.

    The most notorious property investment was with the Stern Group
    of Companies, controlled by William Stern. It was his personal
    bankruptcy in the early in 1970s, at the time the largest in
    British history, that triggered the run on Crown Agents. Stern was
    an American businessmen, with tight business connections to Murder,
    Inc. boss Meyer Lansky. The Stern-Lansky ties ran through the
    National Crime Syndicate boss's most trusted bag man, Sylvain
    Ferdman. Ferdman was identified in a 1967 Life magazine exposé of
    organized crime as Lansky's liaison to a number of leading Swiss
    banks implicated in the crime boss's global money-laundering
    operations. Indeed, Stern fit right into this picture. His
    brother-in-law at the time was Tibor Rosenbaum, whose International
    Credit Bank (BCI) was exposed in the Life magazine story as a
    Lansky front, which also serviced the covert financial needs of the
    Israeli Mossad. BCI went bust at the same time that Stern's bank
    and Crown Agents fell. Stern's personal bankruptcy was intimately
    linked to the collapse of BCI, where he had invested over
    £1 million -- which, in turn, he had gotten from Crown Agents.
    The bailout of Crown Agents, and the mysterious death of its chief
    lending officer shut down any further probe of the Crown's links
    to the Lansky syndicate.

    By the end of 1974, the Crown Agents collapse was, nevertheless,
    Britain's most serious financial scandal.

    To clean up the "loose ends," and maintain Crown Agents' services
    to the Crown, Sir John Cuckney, a former high-ranking official of
    MI-5, was brought in as Senior Crown Agent. Cuckney had already
    left Her Majesty's Service to become the "City's" leading private
    spook, in the employ of Lazard Brothers. As soon as he took up his
    post at Crown Agents, he carried out a "reorganization" -- i.e., a
    cover-up of the scandal. He also set the stage for Crown Agents'
    subsequent emergence as a leading arms trafficker.

    In 1974, as one of his first acts as Senior Crown Agent, Cuckney
    transferred Millbank Technical Services, the Crown Agents' weapons
    procurement subsidiary, to the Ministry of Defence. He then
    consolidated its international networks of legitimate and
    not-so-legitimate banks and financial institutions, into what later
    became the Bank of Credit and Commerce International. BCCI, which
    former CIA Director Robert Gates, in Congressional testimony,
    dubbed "The Bank of Crooks and Criminals International," was at
    the center of the Golden Crescent (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran)
    opium trade, which flourished during the 1979-89 Afghanistan War.
    BCCI's collapse in 1991 was the biggest financial blowout in
    modern history, with over $20 billion in bank assets disappearing
    into thin air.

    In 1978, having completed the restructuring of Crown Agents,
    Cuckney left to become a director of Midland Bank, where he soon
    established a new international division, which engaged primarily
    in financing international weapons deals. When Margaret Thatcher
    moved into 10 Downing Street, Cuckney became a leading adviser to
    the prime minister. He was rewarded for his services by being made
    Lord Cuckney of Millbank. The "Millbank" in his title referred to
    Millbank Technical Services, which he untangled from the Crown
    Agents scandal.

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    Crown Agents today


    Crown Agents' British media apologists claim that the firm has been
    "reformed," and is now a shadow of its former self. There is no
    evidence to support this claim. Crown Agents was organizing covert
    weapons shipments into Africa well into the 1990s, helping to fuel
    the recent genocidal warfare in the Great Lakes region, and
    abetting the butcher Yoweri Museveni, in Uganda. The current
    chairman and Senior Crown Agent is David H. Probert. Probert has
    been with Crown Agents since 1981. During this period he sat on
    the board of directors of the Birmingham Small Arms Company, one
    of the most famous weapons manufacturers in Britain. Another one
    of his directorships was with a company which reportedly held a
    majority stake in Defence Systems Limited, one of the preeminent
    British "private" mercenary outfits, now running around Africa
    and Ibero-America.

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    Footnotes:


    + In an unofficial history of Crown Agents, written by a former
    Crown Agent and published privately in 1958, the author talks of
    three distinct British empires. The First Empire, according to
    this account, began in the first half of the sixteenth century as
    a by-product of England's wars with Spain, and lasted until the
    American Revolution, which left England in an extremely weakened
    position, both as a colonial and a European power. Nonetheless,
    the period between the end of the American Revolution and the end
    of the Napoleonic wars, is considered the era of the Second
    Empire, which included the consolidation of Canada and expansion
    in Asia and Australia. The Third Empire is dated by the founding
    of Crown Agents in 1833, and is marked by the expansion of the
    Empire throughout Africa and the Indian subcontinent. This is
    the empire of Cecil Rhodes, Lord Milner, etc.

    + A.W. Abbot (CMG, CBE), A Short History of the Crown Agents and
    Their Office (1959). Although printed by Eyre and Spottiswoode
    Limited, Her Majesty's Printers at The Chiswick Press, it was
    only for private circulation.

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    Appendix

    Directors, councillors of Crown Agents


    In 1996, Crown Agents was fully privatized. Its relationship to
    the official British government, particularly to the Department of
    Overseas Development, for the first time in its history, became
    contractual. This latest incarnation was renamed Crown Agents for
    Overseas Governments and Administrations Limited. The new entity
    has its own board of directors and board of management. All of
    its share capital is held in trust by the Crown Agents Foundation,
    which has its own board of councillors, dominated by figures in and
    around the Royal Household. The British government is a special
    member of the foundation.

    Here are some of the leading figures in the Crown Agents structure
    today:

    + D.H. Probert, chairman, Commander of the British Empire:
    Probert has been with Crown Agents for many years, and was
    appointed to the rank of Crown Agent in 1981, deputy chairman
    in 1985, and chairman in 1990. In the 1970s, he was a
    director of Birmingham Small Arms Ltd., which was one of the
    most well-known British arms manfacturers. It later produced
    machine tools, which were sold to Iraq for the production of
    weapons systems. He also held the directorship of Rockwool
    Ltd., a British subsidiary of a larger Danish firm, which
    reportedly once held the majority share of capital of
    Defence Systems Limited.

    + A.K. Stewart-Roberts, director: A Crown Agent since 1990,
    and deputy chairman since 1994, he was formerly vice chairman
    of S.G. Warburg & Co., one of the City's most famous
    merchant banks.

    + P.F. Berry, director of the board and managing director:
    Following a career in the private sector, Berry became a
    director of Crown Agents in 1982, and has been its managing
    director since 1988. He is on the advisory board of
    Transparency International (see below).

    + F. Cassell, director: A Companion of the Bath, Cassell was
    former executive director of the International Monetary Fund
    and World Bank for Great Britain.

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    Crown Agents Foundation


    Sir David Rowe-Ham, Knight, Grand Cross of the British Empire,
    chairman.

    Corporate members:

    + Barclays Bank.

    + Standard and Chartered Bank.

    + Unilever, a major agricultural products cartel. Like Shell
    Oil, the company is Anglo-Dutch.

    + Tate and Lyle, Britain's leading sugar cartel, which has close
    corporate links to the American firm Archer Daniels Midland.
    Both Tate and Lyle and ADM are currently under investigation
    by the U.S. Department of Justice for illegal monopoly
    practices; several ADM executives have already been indicted.

    + Securicor plc.: This is a giant private security company
    specializing in bank security. It handles contracts to run
    Britain's privatized prisons, and operates throughout the
    world, including in Africa, South America, and Asia.

    + Manchester Airport plc.: In addition to being the private
    operating company for the Manchester Airport, it has been
    involved in purchasing airports in other countries now being
    privatized. They are reportedly interested in purchasing
    airports in Mexico.

    + British Telecommunications plc.: Britain's privatized
    national telecommunications company, which has been bidding on
    newly privatized telecommunications firms all over the globe.

    Other organizations on the foundation board:

    + Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum: Chaired by Prince
    Charles, this organization sponsors tours and seminars
    throughout the world. Its vice chairman is Sir David Simon,
    chairman of British Petroleum, and currently Minister for
    European Cooperation in Prime Minister Tony Blair's
    government.

    + Aga Khan Foundation: Founded by His Highness the Aga Khan,
    29th Imama of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims. Prince
    Sadruddin Aga Khan, a cousin of the Imam, is one of the
    leading members of Prince Philip's World Wide Fund for Nature.

    + Transparency International: Under the cover of exposing
    alleged corruption, Transparency International has been used
    to destabilize governments throughout the world (see EIR, July
    25, 1997). As a further indication of the close relationship
    between Crown Agents and Transparency International, the Crown
    Agents managing director sits on TI's board of advisers.

    + London School of Oriental and and African Studies: Formerly
    the London School of Colonial Studies.

    + Christian Aid: The official charity organization of
    40 British and Irish churches.

    + The Royal Commonwealth Society and the Caribbean Council of
    Europe, two of the most elite foreign policy organizations
    of Britain.

    + Also, the Chartered Institute of Building; the Chartered
    Institute of Purchasing and Supply; the International Chamber
    of Commerce U.K.; the Royal Society for the Encouragement of
    Arts, Manufactures, and Commerce; the British Chamber of
    Commerce; the British Consultants Bureau; and the British
    Standards institution.

    Miscellaneous other member entities:

    + Concern Worldwide; Intermediate Technology Development Group
    Limited; the International Development Law Institute (Rome);
    and Leeds Metropolitan University.



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    Jamco_Za JF-Expert Member

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    Ama kweli tumekwisha inawezekana huu ufisadi ni siku nyingi na mashirika kama haya yapo mengi sana ulimwenguni na yanaoperate tanzania. Kuna consiprancy theory zinazoendelea na kusababisha nchi za africa ziendelee kuwa masikini kila siku.
     
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    Watu wengi hawajui kinachoendelea lakini ndio hivyo ilivyo.By the way do you know who really owns this country?It is cool.It beats even the best minds-Nchi ilipata uhuru bila kumwaga damu just because you agreed to their terms.Nafikiri sasa picha kwa mbali inakuja.
     
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    Nina washikaji zangu kibao walipata kazi mamtoni kupitia hawa jamaa
     
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    Game Theory JF-Expert Member

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    mpo hapo?
     
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    Tupo!
     
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    5% budget support kila mwaka kutoka UK,
    hata TZ budget yake ikiongezeka wao wanamatch hiyo 5%
     
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    GT,

    Hivi nini kinaifanya SOAS iwe bora kuliko Yale, Oxford or Havard?

    mwanga kidogo wa kiiteligensia tafadhali!
     
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    Game Theory JF-Expert Member

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    kwa sababu SOAS ndio training ground ta British Intteligence officers especially wa MI6 ambao bila wao UK itakuwa kama Burkina Faso...contrary to popular opinion jamaa hawa train watu wao kwenye Ivy League varsities za OxBridge

    nadhani umenielewa

    fanya uchunguzi zaidi kuhusu SOAS utanielewa...Btw jamaa pale walininyima admission nilitaka sana kwenda SOAS but it never occured
     
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    Everyday something new comes up.In 5 to 40 years down the road, this learning would make much more difference.we should never get tired to expose such information as useful as this. Slowly more people will be aware of where the really problems are...Ohhh, the way we are thinking!!!
     
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    Na hapa ndipo magraduates wa SOAS wanapofanya kazi..ama ndipo HQ za MI6 zilipo..jengo hili liliwahi kupigwa na rocket za IRA lilipokwisha

    of course C hayumo hapo na kutokana na security risk jamaa inasemekana wameliaabandon hili jengo na wako wahusika wengine kabisaaa ambao shughuli zao zinaendana na jamaa wa 6 lakini ni disposable

    bado mnataka kupiga vita ufisadi?
     
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    Not very smart strategy really.
     
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    Samahani mkuu, C ni nani?
     
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    Kupiga vita ofisadi kunategemea sana dhamira ya waTZ na si uwezo wa mafisadi na mtandao wao.Ufisadi unaweza shindwa na kuondolewa kabisa ili mradi watu waoga kama GT either wanyamaze kimya au wanyamazishwe then waTZ wenye uchungu na rasirimali za taifa hili wapaze sauti zao,haihitaji bomu wala risasi za moto,ni sauti za wenye haki pekee zitawapukutisha mafisadi.GT endelea na utafiti wako na nakupongeza sana,lakini nikukumbushe MTU MZIMA HATISHIWI NYAU...
     
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    GT

    Naona una mapenzi binafsi na SOAS lakini hoja yako haina maana wala ushahidi wenye mashiko.

    SOAS haipo hata kwenye top 20 ya Best UK Universities kwa mujibu wa Times Online ambayo ndio wana reputation (japo kwa UK) inayoeleweka kutengeneza jedwali za Best Univ. Link hii hapo mwenye kupenda ajisomee mwenyewe.

    http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php
     
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    Game Theory JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa taarifa yako 95% wa intelligence officers wa MI6 ambao wako posted sehemu mbali mbali ambao wanafanya mpaka Industrial espionage wametokea SOAS..na ni jambo ambalo wenyewe hawapendi ndio maana kila kukicha gazeti la times uliloliquote linakuja na league tables kwa ajili ya consumption ya watu kama nyie..by the way this is the same ranking system which gave a very good rating to the university of Hull's maths department which no longer existed!!!

    Ohh lakini usipate taabu kwa sababu hata kama umesoma historia ya SIS au MI5 ya UK ...

    nitauktumia link ya documentary ya RADIO 4 inayoendela sasa hivi inazungumzia mambo haya ya intelligence

    by the way kule kwenye thread ya JOHN LUSINGU tunakusubiri
     
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    Nina swali. Is it the top university simply because ina train intelligence officers wa U.K? Because the only justification I have read from you so far regarding it being the best university is because it trains a majority of MI6 officers. Ni swali tu.
     
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