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Is Tanzania a dying nation?

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Muke Ya Muzungu, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. Muke Ya Muzungu

    Muke Ya Muzungu JF-Expert Member

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    JE, IS TANZANIA A DYING NATION? Well, According to , Tanzania is dying.. Read for yourself. Is Mwanakijiji the Moral police of Tanzania??????????? mWANAKIJI JAMII FORUMS, MASHAKA IN ISSA MICHUZI BLOGSPOT. http://issamichuzi.blogspot.com/2009/09/silent-death-of-nation.html#comments


    TANZANIA’S ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND MORAL DEMISE.......DEBATE

    While many nations are progressing towards positive economic and social changes, Tanzania is scampering towards self destruction. The stealthy negative drift of our country towards social-economic catastrophe, is rather worrying due to the very fact that, Tanzania’s demise is being orchestrated by Tanzanians themselves who are rapidly replacing the culture of hard work with the get rich quick mythology, accompanied by endless lavish and unsustainable lifestyles, on top of irresponsibility on the part of country’s leadership

    Many people within our nation have been caught up in the middle of unorthodox lifestyles, which are impelling millions of us, to focus more on how to strike quick monetary deals, than being creative enough to think of sustainable life, many years after today. It is sad that many of our people have been swamped in this wave of unrealistic lifestyles, which has replaced discipline and hard work, with ”starehe”; and this is worrying.

    While transiting from Mara region through Kenya, back to Dar es Salaam, I had a few minutes to process necessary paperwork needed to cross (drive through) the border. In the process, I was compelled to make a few phone calls, and had no sufficient credit, and had to purchase additional credit from a nearby shop cum-bar, and restaurant prior to my departure, and my experience was rather pessimistic, and sad indeed to say the least; all I saw was a silent death of our nation

    At nine in the morning, men, women and teenagers, strong enough to work were in, for a full blown party. In a simple language, the bar was full of people, and tables within, were full beer bottles. It was party time; staggering men and women who were evidently unable to hold their balance took to the floor, forcibly trying to keep up with the rhythm of the Congolese music “Bolingo”, which controlled the tempo.

    A day after arriving in Dar es Salaam, I had another trip to Morogoro with a group of volunteers. I was supposed to be picked up at a very popular spot, and on that day if I was to be a customer at this city spot, I would have been the first customer. A few minutes before ten in the morning, a small car pulled up with two young men, who were in their either mid twenties or early thirties. Less than ten minutes later, another vehicle pulled up with two more young men along with a lady, and both sat on the same table. They were well kept, and neatly dressed, with some of them holding expensive mobile phones.

    No sooner did they take their seats than they were served with beer, and within no time, scary and heated soccer talk- fanaticism- ensued as some obviously were for the Manchester United, while the rest were Liverpool diehard fans. I was surprised when one of them identified me by name, even though we had never met before, and offered me a drink. I, however, Politely declined the offer, not only because I don’t use alcohol, but mainly because of the time –it was too early- These were young people, strong enough to be doing all kind of work to push the economic wheel, yet were emptying beer bottles, and ready to fight for European football teams. I was embarrassed and astonished

    I was given an example of a young man in the neighborhood that is living large; driving some of the latest automobiles, yet has never owned a business or received employment check. I was simply told that, “Hayo ndo maisha ya dili mjini”. Coming from an environment in which seventeen hours of work a day is a routine, I could not believe or understand this culture in which young and able persons prefer idleness, and partying than working, and still drive Range Rovers. I decided to carry research to be certain before concluding otherwise. I visited the so called elite hanging spots, and my findings were not different from my previous ones.

    High RANKING government officials goes to bars days in a row; I found many STK vehicles, Ministers Land Cruisers with their official’s numbers on them. Three days in a row, and simply said, no wonder we are so poor, A culture of shame. I wonder what in the world they tell their boss, Mr. President when they fail to deliver, more so their electorate when their many promises turns to be hot air? Don’t misquote me, nothing wrong with partying, however, should be done with moderation

    Even though I left Tanzania in my late teenage years, my many years in foreign land never exposed me to such a culture, I have never witnessed anything of that nature, and can never jump into making conclusions, I am however, letting you the reader decide how a nation such a Tanzania can prosper, when her people are living to party instead of living to work. When her leaders and high ranking officials’ penchant for their own ambitions and interests supersede the country’s well being?

    I was made to understand that the culture of deals is deeply entrenched not only in the streets, but also in major public organs, in which a handful or a few persons are truly committed to their work. Many have nothing more than brainstorming how to push bogus deals -payment claims- or simply get their customary 10% than defend the country. These poseur and obsequious officials are nothing but miniatures of EPA criminals, dragging the country into her death bed.

    Tanzanians are pushing their country into total destruction. Professionals entrusted with the power to protect the public, are the very people dishing licenses to businessmen and women setting up bars and nightclubs in residential areas without observing the guidelines and city buildings codes. A hall in Segerea CCM ( Chama) is a typical example of the bars that plays music almost 14 hours a day in the middle of a residential area. Not only are they causing noise pollution, they are making it extremely tough for school children spending many hours scrambling to get home, particularly difficult to study, and the government is simply to powerless to act.

    I cannot be persuaded to believe that, city of Dar es Salaam has no ordinances that prohibit times in which alcohol can be sold to the public. Neither can I believe that, there are no regulatory authorities that can enforce the ordinances that prohibit sound disturbance in residential areas. These are problems in poor areas of the city and not the likes of Masaki and Hoyster-bay where the elite bask.

    In a country where a minister, can attend a bar, days in a row, go to sleep, get up the next day attend state duties with hangover. Believe me or not, such a man has nothing new for the country. All he has is time to sign anything that comes in front of him without looking in details the contents of that document, and that is why our country is getting poor and poorer, because there is no time to scrutinize shady contracts.

    There is never going to be any economic progress as long as our top bottom leadership approach to finding our social, political and economic solutions lies in the hands of the people with more time to party and attend Ms. Tanzania pageantry than following up with the law enforcers on who kill Albinos. A culture of shame!

    I wonder how logical and responsible people can describe a situation within a nation, in which young people are driving around without working. Top leaders are partying every day, young kids cannot study because they are exposed to bars with dirty language and uncontrolled music around the clock? And Laws established to protect the people are simply irrelevant to the poor majority, but too strong to protect the mighty and the powerful;

    I see a negative progression, stealthy and fast demise of a nation. Our nation’s economic future outlook is grim, social and moral pillars are in shambles. Tanzanians who love their country must be realistic with these shameful social vices. We must work swiftly, rapidly, and collectively to condemn these acts of social perversion in order to resuscitate life into our nation from her slow and stealthy economic, social and moral death.

    If we can’t be sacrificial and courageous enough to stand up to these vices tearing our country apart, by condemning them; instead spending our time discussing people’s personalities, and fighting individual’s progress, then we are in for a long night of affliction
     
  2. Juma Contena

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    well, ameongea ukweli mtupu na ku-describe a situation kama vile ilivyo. Lakini kwa mtu ambae yupo nchi ambayo yenye uchumi mkubwa duniani angeelewa kwamba you make people responsible by giving them responsibility. Kama yeye alivyopewa huko alipo on whatever he is doing.

    Huna describe watu ambao hata wakizaa nje awapewi responsibility ya child support, hawana malipo yoyote ya mshahara wao pa kuupeleka, na asilimia kubwa ya wafanyakazi wa serikali hata hawajui responsibities za kazi zao ni zipi. I dont think its right to blame the citizens for partying at early in the morning ungeenda kuwauliza mabosi zao wanao walipa mishaara hivi hawa watu wanafanya kazi gani ya kuweza kustarehe saa nne za asubuhi siku za kazi. Na kuna faida gani ya kulipa workforce ambayo saa nne za asubuhi wapo bar, clearly ni kutupa hela tu kwa sababu there's no input ni hela ambayo wengine wanalipia tax hawa wanalipwa kwa kazi ambazo hazieleweki vinginevyo wasingekua bar time hizo. Hivyo anatupa lawama kwa wadekezwaji rather than watu wanao wadekeza hai make sense sijui kwa wengine.

    Unajua ni swali ambalo najiuliza kila siku hapa kwa nini tumekazana na wabunge wapiganaji ambao ni dozens tu. wakati kuna wabunge sijui mia tatu kwa mujibu wa mwandishi mmoja humu ndani. haya toa kama forty ambao wana nyaraka za juu, bado tunabakiwa na karibu miambili toa wengine ambao mtabisha idadi ni kubwa zaidi ya hao forty, ndio maana nimeweka mia mbili wana kazi gani?

    Maana umefikia muda mpaka viongozi waliokuwa wana tetea ufisadi sasa wameanza kujikosha kwenye kukaribia uchaguzi ili warudi. Kwa upande wangu afadhali hata hawa wanao jikosha ni kwamba wanaelewa nini maana ya public opinion and politics hao wengine kwa kweli ni si wawajibikaji sijui kwa nini atu wazungumzi its as if bunge lina mafisadi na wapiganaji, wazembe ambao wanatu cost seven million every month tuna wasahau sasa kazi zao ni nini? Na wako wengi tu if its about political investment na hawa ni useless tu kama hao watu bwana John Mashaka ambao anawazungumzia kwa kweli hawa watu hawahitaji kurudi bungeni kwani si wanasiasa wa kweli. Wapo pale kwa faida ya kula kwao tu unaweza sema ni mafisadi tu wa tax zetu kupitia mshahara wa bunge.

    Yote sema lakini naamini John Mashaka ni role model kwa vijana wengine ingawa simjui isiwe tabu bure kama jamaa alie mu-offer a drink on being a good samaritan na yeye aka translate vingine.
     
  3. MawazoMatatu

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    Hoja zake nzuri sana tujaribu kujadili hoja bila kumuangalia mtoa hoja!
     
  4. The Boss

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    well said,ni kama nchi iliyolaaniwa vile.
     
  5. Kaka Mkubwa

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    Absolutely yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. takashi

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    ndio bila ya shaka . tanzania imekufa imebakia mifupa! aibu kaka aibu. hata Ruanda inasonga mblele. wakati juzitu ,walikua na mabalaa yao. Likini ni sisi wenyewe wananchi. Bado tumelewa na janga la woga ,uzembe na upumbavu.
    kwasababu nchi zilizoendele maendeleo yao hayakuteremshwa kama mvua. waTanzania tuamke.
     
  7. Asprin

    Asprin JF-Expert Member

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    Absolutely yes means you are accepting that Tanzania is a dying nation! You are wrong! Tanzania is a DEAD nation. It died right away with its founder Mwalimu Nyerere. Dead! Kaputi! The Late Tanzania. RIP.
     
  8. FirstLady1

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    Lakini je ni kwa nini tunakubaliana na kauli hiyo ?

    hatuoni kama sisi vijana ndio tuna nafasi kubwa ya kuleta mapinduzi katika nchi hii
    na je ni kwa nini tukubali na kukata tamaa kirahisi namna hii
    wakati wa ukombozi ni sasa?

    Huwezi kuona mgonjwa ana dalili za Maralia -ukakubali huyu mgonjwa tayari ni marehemu badala ya kumtafutia treatment:(
     
  9. Shy

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    Mr. President, please let us go back to the basis of governance. First,
    remember that a hungry citizen is an angry citizen. Even, Jesus Christ
    recognized that to preach His gospel, he had to feed the crowd first. That,
    sir, is wisdom. So, sir, you need to create an enabling environment for job
    creation. Stop your ministers and commissioners from asking Tanzanians
    without viable businesses to be exported to Tanzania from being asked.
    Whites in your company?" This questions show among other inferiority complex
    which we have been trying to shed. Toward this end, why don't you encourage
    serious Tanzanians in Diaspora who have values to add to the system to
    repatriate themselves in a reverse brain drain. Some of the skills they have
    acquired which the nation paid for can then be harnessed to the advantage of
    our dear nation and yet the thieving Mps, Ministers, and ordinary Tanzanians
    will benefit tremendously. Even, Tanzanian Universities will benefit from
    the influx of Diaspora Professors.
     
  10. Jile79

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    uwapo una ng'ombe ambae amenyofolewa minofu yote ila bado anatembea japo kwa kuijikongoja na kuchechemea bado utasema nina ng'ombe? ndivyo ilivyo tz yetu tumewapa kila kitu wageni hivyo sisi tumebaki ombaomba wa nje wakati tuna kila kitu,wanachukua samaki wanatuachia mapanki,wanachukua madini wanatuachia maji machafu yanatuua..........tz is a skeleton(or freshless country)
     
  11. Bluray

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    The truth is, the idea of a nation itself is on the way to extinction.Only to be replaced by corporatocracy and supranations.
     
  12. Jile79

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    aha.....2nayo kazi.....
     
  13. Jethro

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    Duh,
    Precisely all are the facts, good mifanos from few regionals which are critical copy and paste that kind of lifestyle commence with

    Arusha its a worse kabisa
    Dar
    Mwanza
    Mbeya
    Dodoma
    Morogoro
    Tabora
    Tanga
    Zanzibar

    Government office ndio namba one wa kuonyesha mifano watu hawajui uongozi wal uwajibikaji wapo wapo ilimradi jua latoka na kuzama, jamani .

    Siku sensa ikipita itupe itadi ya vijana kati ya umri wa miaka 18 mpaka miaka 37 na wanafanya nini??
     
  14. Jile79

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    habari ndio hiyo.........ni madubwasha tuuuuuuuuu.........
     
  15. Jile79

    Jile79 JF-Expert Member

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    not only dying but already dead................
     
  16. M

    Masatu JF-Expert Member

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    Dying nation? my foot
     
  17. Asprin

    Asprin JF-Expert Member

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    Wagonjwa wengine badala ya kwenda hospitali, wanakwenda kupiga ramli. Madaktari (Vijana) hawapewi nafasi ya kuonesha uwezo wao wa matibabu. Acha mgonjwa afe kwa kuwa amewapuuza madaktari na kuwakumbatia wapiga ramli (Mafisadi)
     
  18. ChingaMzalendo

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    Hivi huyu mashaka hajui kwamba Tanzainia ilishauzwa kwa wakubwa. Kilichobakia ni mifupa, nchi imekwisha enzi hizo. Nasikia wanamuita nabii, basi atutabirie yanayokuja kesho.

    The country stinks, kilochabakia ni sisi kuchukua silaha na kuingia porini, ndio dawa tu iliyobakia kwa mafisadi
     
  19. FirstLady1

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    aaaah aaah haaaa haaa
     
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    Magezi JF-Expert Member

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    mnaongea tu bila kutoa solutions/suggestions? kweli JF tunatia huruma kama tunakuwa na mawazo ya kulalama tu bila ku-suggest alternatives. Tena nashangaa mtu anasifia Rwanda!!, hivi mnaelewa the secret behind kagame na US?

    Ukweli ni kwamba hata tukiendelea kupiga domo eti tanzania imekufa, ktk afrika basi nchi nyingi zimekufa na kuongea tu hakusaidii.
     
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