Is Dr. Slaa/Chadema against Free Market in Tanzania?

[Mindi]

what we have in Tanzania is a market controlled by some powerful business people who have managed to grab a lot of political clout through the rotten system in CCM. couple that with a weak presidency, you have what we now are. JK can only whine when these moguls tighten the screws to rake in super profits. they do it in several ways. Kilimo kwanza? Ok, the government secures some subsidies for the peasants, and what happens? the moguls cash in while the peasants have to crawl on commercial prices of the very implements that were subsidised for them! what does JK do? whine of course. It is not such a smart game that they are playing, and if you cannot even notice that, and talk all this shit (sorry for the strong word) about "free markets" you must be a sick person. sorry again.

 

[dotto]

Kobello if really you are an economist and you are a believer of free market, then why do we have regulatory institutions like EWURA, SUMATRA etc?

Wasomi bwana wee acha tu.... Mtazunguka mtarudi kugundua kuwa UMEME ulipanda bei tangu january 2011 na mkuu wa nchi alisema wako kibiashara zaidi. Pia umeme wenyewe upo? Wazalishe kiasi kikubwa kwa umeme upi? mkuu wa nchi anasema wanahodhi sugar nyingi kwa maghala yao. Swali amefanya utafiti huo na ni akina nani hao. Hotuba mbofu. Tatizo lake la kukubali bei ya umeme ipande na at the same time umeme wenyewe haupo kisingizio wafanyabiashara.

DUNIANI HAKUNA FREE MARKET. WAZUNGU WACHOYO SAAAAANA. FREE MArKET TOKA ULAYA KUJA AFRICA. TOKA AFRICA KWENDA ULAYA NO. Na utakuta SPS, Embargos n.k. Toka kwetu wanapenda sana raw materials (unprocessed goods) ili watengeneze wao at added value halafu wakukong'oli bei zao.

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

This is how one observer characterized CHADEMA's political philosophy



About CHADEMA
CHADEMA is currently the largest opposition political party in Tanzania, with 48 members in a 300+ parliament. Deducing from their last year’s election manifesto, CHADEMA can be viewed as a centre left party embracing social democratic values. It envisions a democratic society embodying the principles of fairness, equity, social justice and hard working. It seeks to achieve these through the provision of state funded social services such as education and health. CHADEMA also advocates for a state subsidised housing industry in which housing materials such as iron sheets and cement could receive a special tax relief so as to facilitate better housing in rural areas.
While championing the free market economic principles, CHADEMA advocates that the Government plays a crucial role in the management and regulation of key economic sectors such as the exploitation and harvesting of natural resources such as mining through what it calls an equitable taxation system.

 

[Kobello]

With all due respect,thats primarily in every party's manifesto,especially in African politics because,thats the only way you can get poor people's support.But chadema is the only party that openly stated their belief in the free market system(constitutionally),it's not a socialist party like CCM(again,constitutionally).
I was just shocked when Dr. Slaa asked the president to regulate food prices,and the government fell for it,exempting taxes on sugar import.The tarrifs are to be used for the benefit of the people(peoples power,remember?).Now can you explain who won here?I think it's the bussinessmen and not the people because those suppliers wanted either higher prices or tax breaks and it's a win-win situation to them and vice versa to ordinary Tanzania citizens.

 

[Albert Msando]

Kobello and the rest,

For a minute please transgress from the topic and tell us what needs to be done now. Give us concrete solutions and stop debating on what has been done or not done.

Let us go with this assumption, CCM and CDM are both wrong in this, what should be done? Talk as a renowned economist who is advising Tanzanians and not political parties.

 

[Mombo Wetu]

Kobello and the rest,

For a minute please transgress from the topic and tell us what needs to be done now. Give us concrete solutions and stop debating on what has been done or not done.

Let us go with this assumption, CCM and CDM are both wrong in this, what should be done? Talk as a renowned economist who is advising Tanzanians and not political parties.

Political stability ni moja wapo dont tell me we are, for people have expectations ambazo zina sababisha uncertainty in productions both CCM and CHADEMA has a role to play

Second katika nchi nyingi duniani isipokuwa chache kama Sweeden I guess have to find out katika uchumi labour tax ina rank the highest katika total income ya nchi so anything that would disturb this equation w = h(1-Tc)/pt ikiwa na maana w= wage, h = productivity/human capital Tc ni labour tax na pt ni price at a particular time; ita sababisha uchumi kuyumba. Marekani wao wanatoa mishahara mikubwa ambayo inasababisha watu kupenda kufanya kazi asumption ikiwa kama lasure ndiyo sababu ya watu kutokufanya kazi then many would opt to work since the opportunity cost of not working is big...Sisi mishahara kwa decision making cadre inaridhisha lakini out put I think ni questionable; for example leagal enforcement tuchukulie research nyingi zinadai rushwa imetawala hiyo tayari ni distortion kwani wanacholipwa na serikali hakilingani na out put yao katika labour market; then wabunge je wana ibana vipi serikali iwajibike kama kuna kuwekeana nidhamu ya chama then tayari ni distortion kwani wanacholipwa hakilingani na out put yao kwenye labour market hivyo serikali ita relax somehow kwani wanajua sehemu ya kukimbilia wakibanwa na cost inayo sababisha kwenye economy in general ni kubwa kuliko benefit ambayo rulers wanapata kwa wabunge kutowajibika.....Lecturers for example paid well comperatively lakini poor working condition na bad products from basic education so out put yao hailingani na what had been invested in them thats why hakuna innovation za kutosha, hawana incentive za kutumia capacity zao kusababisha products zao ziweze kucreat more jobs etc...So at the end of the day hiyo equation haiko balanced na ndiyo maana tunahitaji aid hata kulipa mishahara...

Lawama zinaenda kwenye governance maana ndiyo central so you politician come back to your senses alafu kila mtu awajibike katika nafasi na zamu yake uone kama welfare haita kuwa better...Note there are other exogenous factors ambazo pia inategemea negotiation power ya government iliyopo. I am not a specialist in this area but I have the basics!

 

[Kobello]

World food prices are getting higher,due to so many reasons.Oil prices are hiking at a scary rate,food is now highly used to substitute oil for energy(ethanol),depleting global supply of food.The major world oil fields are running out at the rate of 4-6% annually.
Bussinessmen/suppliers in Tanzania will try to raise prices knowing that the global market is seeing food prices growing at a faster rate,and their cost of production is getting higher too!....this is a bad combination and they will do anything to raise the price(including holding supply),They will form pseudoconglomerates,more like a local OPEC and a good government will facilitate a counter attack from its poor citizens by encouraging consumer cooperatives which will surgically be formed with the help from the government(we can provide technical support) and construct a good a policy that will result to an act which will give tax breaks to consumer cooperatives and enable the mass and not individuals to import sugar and sell at a break even price.
Now if Dr Slaa would encourage pressure the government to do this and appeal to the mass to be honest and dedicated,them fisadi will lower their prices......THEY JUST WILL.....there are tricks in the market,just like any other game! ask the nordic countries how they became sosuccessful!

 

[Nguruvi3]

Kobello and the rest,

For a minute please transgress from the topic and tell us what needs to be done now. Give us concrete solutions and stop debating on what has been done or not done.

Let us go with this assumption, CCM and CDM are both wrong in this, what should be done? Talk as a renowned economist who is advising Tanzanians and not political parties.

Msando,
First let me dissociate from the title of ''economist'', however this shouldn't be deterrent to chip in comments based on little knowledge driven by common sense.
No way can the nation shun the common market as this is the global standard in today's world. The reckless free market is the epicenter of the current global economy crisis. The Champions have learned a lesson, and now the Wall Street is regulated perfect and square. A country like TZ with small, unconnected and fragile economy needs to do more to help Wananchi; therefore regulating the free market is a pre-requisite.

Secondly, there should be a deliberate effort to stop the emerging system, where as a businessman is also a politician (Businessman cum politician). Currently, the members of CC or NEC or executives in the Government are the same people who own big business. More often than not, their decisions are leaning on person interest than Wananchi by capitalizing their position on the pretext of free market. In developed world officials are obliged to either declare their interest or resign from their business once appointed to work for the public to avert conflict of interest. This is not the case in Tanzania.

Finally, there should be a system to ensure that leaders are not clinching to power under the clout of tycoon. We have seen this in America, where as Campaign has limitation in terms of contribution. In Tanzania the pet bourgeois who donated hefty lump some to politicians are holding the officials accountable to reimburse them through dubious business, hiking price as an example. The government is under siege now.
The point here is, the government should not be at the centre of economy but not stay aside watching ''pseudo conglomerate' exploiting the nation. The Government must use the laws of the land to ensure win -win situation by all side

 

[Mkandara]

Hivi sii kweli kwamba chi za maggharibi serikali zao wanatoa elimu bure toka walipoanza kujenga dira ya mataifa yao. Vivyo hivyo ktk Afya na huduma zote za kijamii kwa kutambua kwanza ni taifa aina gani wanalotaka kulijenga .
Freemarket economy sio siasa, sii itikadi wala sio sera fulani inayoitaka serikali kutochukua majukumu ya kutoa huduma.

Hii haihusiani kabisa na mamlaka au uwezo wa serikali kutoa huduma muhimu bure kwa wananchi au kuwatoza.... Na ati ikiwatoza basi ndio freemaket economy inavyotaka..
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Nafikiri watu wengi wanachanganya vitu,ni ujinga mkubwa kufikiria kwamba serikali inapowatoza wanafunzi ada au kugharama afya ya wananchi kama wananvyofanya CCM leo, basi hiyo ndio freemarket economy..

Maajabu makubwa, msomi anapokuja hapa na kuchanganua ilani ya chama ktk kukidhi mahitaji ya wananchi wake kuwa ni pinzani na freemarket economy, hali huko Marekani, Japan, Uingereza, Canada kwenye kizazi cha freemarket, serikali zao wanazitoa huduma hizi buree.. Kwa maana hii nasikitika sana kumsoma mwandishi wetu kwani hili ndilo tatizo kubwa la wasomi wetu ambao wamesoma mambo makubwa toka vitabuni na kwa kiingereza lakini wameshindwa kuiweka elimu yao ktk matumizi kwa sababu hawajawahi kuona ubora wa elimu ktk ubora wa matumizi yake, na kuchanganua pia uharamu wake..

Wengi wamedanganyika na kuamini kwamba serikali inapowatoza wanafunzi ada au kuwatoza wananchi wake gharama za tiba ya afya na kadhalika basi huo ndijo ubepari...

 

[Kobello]

Hivi sii kweli kwamba chi za maggharibi serikali zao wanatoa elimu bure toka walipoanza kujenga dira ya mataifa yao. Vivyo hivyo ktk Afya na huduma zote za kijamii kwa kutambua kwanza ni taifa aina gani wanalotaka kulijenga .
Freemarket economy sio siasa, sii itikadi wala sio sera fulani inayoitaka serikali kutochukua majukumu ya kutoa huduma.

Hii haihusiani kabisa na mamlaka au uwezo wa serikali kutoa huduma muhimu bure kwa wananchi au kuwatoza.... Na ati ikiwatoza basi ndio freemaket economy inavyotaka..
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Nafikiri watu wengi wanachanganya vitu,ni ujinga mkubwa kufikiria kwamba serikali inapowatoza wanafunzi ada au kugharama afya ya wananchi kama wananvyofanya CCM leo, basi hiyo ndio freemarket economy..

Maajabu makubwa, msomi anapokuja hapa na kuchanganua ilani ya chama ktk kukidhi mahitaji ya wananchi wake kuwa ni pinzani na freemarket economy, hali huko Marekani, Japan, Uingereza, Canada kwenye kizazi cha freemarket, serikali zao wanazitoa huduma hizi buree.. Kwa maana hii nasikitika sana kumsoma mwandishi wetu kwani hili ndilo tatizo kubwa la wasomi wetu ambao wamesoma mambo makubwa toka vitabuni na kwa kiingereza lakini wameshindwa kuiweka elimu yao ktk matumizi kwa sababu hawajawahi kuona ubora wa elimu ktk ubora wa matumizi yake, na kuchanganua pia uharamu wake..

Wengi wamedanganyika na kuamini kwamba serikali inapowatoza wanafunzi ada au kuwatoza wananchi wake gharama za tiba ya afya na kadhalika basi huo ndijo ubepari...

Babu! mapato ya taifa yanfaa kutumiwa kuotoa elimu,afya,uluinzi nk kwa wananchi.Na tunafahamu kuwa free market haimaanishi serikali kutokutoa huduma,inamaanisha serikali kuruhusu biashara za binafsi bila kuwaingilia at the same time kuwa regulate wasifanye biashara kiholela.Tunajua kuwa chadema wanaamini mfumo wa soko huria,hata mwanzilishi wao Mtei ni mtu wa karibu sanas na IMF pamoja na Conservative party ya Uingereza,na katiba ya chadema inasema wanaamini soko huria!
Swali lilikuwa kama Slaa bado anaamini soko huria kwani kumwambia rais apunguze bei za vyakula na baadae rais akatoa ushuru wa kuagiza sukari nje.Ushuru ni hela ya wananchi na ukiondoa ushuru wa kuagiza bidhaa nje unawapa faida wafanyabiashara na siyo wananchi.
Huoni kwamba wanasiasa wetu ni vigeugeu na maamuzi yao mara nyingi hayana faida kwa wananchi?Ndio maana tukauliza dr slaa imani yake kiuchumi na maneno yake anayoyasema viko tofauti.

 

[Nguruvi3]

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CONCLUSIVE REMARKS:
I think it's about time you quit talking and asking about who really owns dowans,thats irrelevant of the whole issue and is against what your party stands for.Let the market works on itself and try to mobilise Tanzanians to participate in free market.The dowans saga was actually facilitated by your findings which lacked a concrete case,and was used by our weak govt to revoke a legally bound contract,the result,power shedding and over 60m$ loss to the govt and hence people of Tanzania.We really didnt have to do that!
Our govt didnt even pay dowans 24m$ that resulted from them providing electricity to our national grid for 9 months,thats unfair and evil,and it really discourage investment.At the end of the day,Tanzania lost due to arrogance shown by our loud-mouthed,no strategy opposition camp.
Sorry,I JUST HAD TO CLEAR THAT OFF MY CHEST!

I was contemplating your remarks. Kobello, we must accolade Chadema for the brilliant job of unearthing so many dubious contracts which has plunged the country into massive debt. Chadema has tried to expose the egoism Wananchi have endured.
Remember Chadema brought up the Richmond saga which was investigated several time by different committee. The results revealed massive fraud and corruption. It is CCM parliament which confirmed the findings and suggested the next step. Do you mean this was a blunder by Chadema?.
Kobello, do you suggest that better we could keep mum for the offenders to go with impunity as long as they can provide us with power to watch premier league?
Did you want the corrupt leaders to walk away under the banner of Investor?
If Chadema is big mouth as you want to put it, tell us why RA has never ever come forward to refute allegation leveled against him. Why then EL resigned!
Kobello, please you deserve to tell us better than this. Don't pretend that you live in your own Tanzania. The facts and circumstantial evidence are scattered everywhere, it is a matter of intelligent person to sieve the husks from maize.
If you wanted to vent out your frustration because you may be a beneficiary of this mess, better you shout off you mouth. I can imagine if you present the elite group of this nation what about my Cousins, nice and in-laws in the Village.!
You're the paradigm of bungled erudite.

Thanks
Sincerely
Nguruvi3.

 

[emalau]

Now i can see the great thinkers

 

[Kobello]

I was contemplating your remarks. Kobello, we must accolade Chadema for the brilliant job of unearthing so many dubious contracts which has plunged the country into massive debt. Chadema has tried to expose the egoism Wananchi have endured.
Remember Chadema brought up the Richmond saga which was investigated several time by different committee. The results revealed massive fraud and corruption. It is CCM parliament which confirmed the findings and suggested the next step. Do you mean this was a blunder by Chadema?.
Kobello, do you suggest that better we could keep mum for the offenders to go with impunity as long as they can provide us with power to watch premier league?
Did you want the corrupt leaders to walk away under the banner of Investor?
If Chadema is big mouth as you want to put it, tell us why RA has never ever come forward to refute allegation leveled against him. Why then EL resigned!
Kobello, please you deserve to tell us better than this. Don't pretend that you live in your own Tanzania. The facts and circumstantial evidence are scattered everywhere, it is a matter of intelligent person to sieve the husks from maize.
If you wanted to vent out your frustration because you may be a beneficiary of this mess, better you shout off you mouth. I can imagine if you present the elite group of this nation what about my Cousins, nice and in-laws in the Village.!
You're the paradigm of bungled erudite.

Thanks
Sincerely
Nguruvi3.

There's corruption in every level in tanzania,we know that.Tanzanians through chadema exposed a lot of scandals,you know,it's not that slaa went to Tanesco or anywhere and discovered these scandals,people gave him these sensitive informations and some of them work for the current government.They trusted him as a person who won't be scared to do so,and he delivered!...that was brilliant.
The problem is,getting in the process of decision making and using these scandals as a platform to run a campaign.That is not a bad thing but I think he is getting too loud (by this I mean perpetuating the situation to a point where justice is overlooked).We lost the dowans case in the international platform,the case dont make sense at all and if you really look into it you will see that the government was wrong in stopping the contract.
Now,please answer these questions and dont get caught by 'jazba'.
1.Did dowans deliver the services they were supposed to?Did they produce electricity?
2.Did they get paid for the 9 months that they generated electricity?
3.Does it matter who own dowans?Really?
4.Do you think the generators that dowans have are scrap ?i.e in bad shape?
5.Do you think we have the right to nationalize dowans generators?Will that be justice?
6.What about songas?IPTL do you think we have a parasitic relationship with them?or is it mutual?
Please answer these questions without jazba,or name calling because anger is a form of a weak mind!

 

[kiwi2010]

Firs,let me remind dr slaa that CDMs constitution supports free market.Free market is controlled mainly by forces of demand and supply.
Having said that,I find it weird when you criticize the government for not controlling the ongoing food price hikes esp. sugar.Dont you think that the market regulates itself based on consumer's demand?because by you complaining,you made our weak government ease import tarrifs and invade the market by ordering tens of thousands of tonnes of sugar just to lower the price.This affected government revenues and stimulated a fake,subsidized economy that most African countries relies on.
Second,in a free market system and even in international politicoeconomic arena,a public corporation is owned by the public,that is to say the people.But private corporations are owned by private individual(s) and they stand alone as an organisation.LET ME CLARIFY MY POINT,a corporation per se is a PERSON! a corporation is different from the owner(s),a corporation has the rights as a person regardless of who owns it,a corporation can sue or be sued,you can't insist on who owns that corporation,you deal with a corporation as a person,you don't deal with a person as a corporation.
CONCLUSIVE REMARKS:
I think it's about time you quit talking and asking about who really owns dowans,thats irrelevant of the whole issue and is against what your party stands for.Let the market works on itself and try to mobilise Tanzanians to participate in free market.The dowans saga was actually facilitated by your findings which lacked a concrete case,and was used by our weak govt to revoke a legally bound contract,the result,power shedding and over 60m$ loss to the govt and hence people of Tanzania.We really didnt have to do that!
Our govt didnt even pay dowans 24m$ that resulted from them providing electricity to our national grid for 9 months,thats unfair and evil,and it really discourage investment.At the end of the day,Tanzania lost due to arrogance shown by our loud-mouthed,no strategy opposition camp.
Sorry,I JUST HAD TO CLEAR THAT OFF MY CHEST!

Bwana mkubwa mimi naona Dr weapon yupo sahihi kabisa,kutokana na uvivu wa serikali kubuni miradi ya uzalishaji,misamaha ya kodi isiyo ya lazima,usimamizi mbaya wa vyanzo vya mapato pamoja na ufisadi inasababisha ikose mapato kwa ajili
ya kuendesha nchi,sasa basi inacho fanya ni kuweka kodi kubwa kwenye bizaa za msingi ambozo ni muhimu kwa maisha yetu ya kila siku.Hapa sasa ndio Dr weapon anapo toa hoja zake nzuri.
Mimi nakuomba ili uweze kuelewa point ya slaa hebu fuatilia gharama za uzalishaji wa kilo ya sukari ambapo kalibia asilimia 98 ya malighafi zinatoka hapa hapa,utaona miwa inapatikana kwa ghara za chini,wafanyakazi walipwa kidogo,mitambo ikitumia umeme wa kawaida gharama za umeme zipo juu,ikisema itumie genset ndio juu kabisaaa ,ukitia na kodi ndio balaaaaa sasa mpaka sukari ina fika sokoni gharama ya uzalishaji tu inakua haikamatiki.
Pili kwenye bizaa nyingine Mahindi,gharama za uzalishaji mahindi zipo kawaida kwa mkulima wa jembe la mkono,ukija kwa mnunuzi wa mahindi nae ananunua kwa bei ya kutupa kwa mkulima,sasa tunapo kuja kwenye usafiri wa kuyatoa mahindi shamba kwenda sokoni gharama ziko juu kwa sababu ya mafuta ambayo serikali inayatosa kodi kubwa,alafu tuje kwenye usagaji wa hayo maindi hapa pia gharama ziko juu kwa sababu ya umeme wa dowansiiiii,kwa hiyo hapa tunaona gharama ya usafiri ,umeme,mafuta na kodi ndogondogo kwenye mazao inasababisha bei ya unga iwe juu.
Kwahiyo kwakutumia mifano hiyo miwili midogo rahisi kabisa unaweza kuona jinsi gani serikali inaweza kusimamia au kusababisha bei ya bizaa hizo kuwa juu au chini,
kitu kikubwa hapo ni kodi ambazo zinaweza kuepukika na kuongeza uzalishaji sehemu nyingine kama kwenye madini,mbuga,bahari,misitu na rasilimali nyinginezo na hiyo ndio pointi ya dr weapon na ndio pointi ambayo nchi nyingize inazitumia hadi sasa.

 

[Nguruvi3]

Kobello, Dr Slaa did not use the scandal to seek political fame. The saga was discussed in the parliament and resolution reached. Unfortunate CCM used its majority in the house to mask the saga after receiving the directive from CC. Remember Speaker was threatened to be striped off his position if he won't stop the discussion. The subject was closed once and forever. The action prompted Dr Slaa to take the issue to the public.
Kobello, it seems as if you're out of site hence mind. Dowans is an illegitimate son of illegitimate mother Richmond. These are not separated entity the least to say. FYI Richmond never existed, proven by CCM parliamentarians beyond doubt. If you have navigated JF recently you will see the thread by M.M.Mwanankijiji indicating how the deal was sealed between Richmond and Dowans with lots of conflicting information including the date the transfer was effected. In this context, whether the electricity was generated or not, the process was flawed.
Remember leaders who were involved resigned including PM. There is evidence of ''memo'' from EL which indicates his clout in the process. Shame on him.

I am not sure if Richmond/Dowans was paid for 9 month, however it is insane to pay the company which inherited the contract from the ‘space'.
It does matter to know who the Dowans owner is. Remember RA rejected before the camera any association with Dowans. As of today we know he is the one given power of attorney to effect the dubious transfer of the contract from ‘space' to Dowans. Al Adawi did the same. The question is, if we want to pay Dowans who is to receive a cheque worth billions of tax payer's money. I wonder why you don't see this obvious logic which does not need a certificate to comprehend. You want Dowans paid 9 month service to unknown owner! Please! Give us a break.

We as a nation has no obligation to investigate the value of generators, bearing in mind that we didn't know who owns it until the recent Al Adawi's drama surfaced.

Well, IPTL and SONGAS have been under scrutiny for long time. Unfortunate CCM leaders have their interest behind. We will ask Dr Slaa to bring it up again, but don't complain that he is using scandals for political fame. Nevertheless, two wrongs don't make one right; therefore Dowans /Richmond should not be given a leeway because we have similar pending issues.

Finally, anger could be a sign of weak mind as you suggest, but think of this, if someone well educated still believes that 1+1= 11 then it is only angels who can bear with it.

Thanks

Sincerely, Nguruvi3.

 

[kiwi2010]

There's corruption in every level in tanzania,we know that.Tanzanians through chadema exposed a lot of scandals,you know,it's not that slaa went to Tanesco or anywhere and discovered these scandals,people gave him these sensitive informations and some of them work for the current government.They trusted him as a person who won't be scared to do so,and he delivered!...that was brilliant.
The problem is,getting in the process of decision making and using these scandals as a platform to run a campaign.That is not a bad thing but I think he is getting too loud (by this I mean perpetuating the situation to a point where justice is overlooked).We lost the dowans case in the international platform,the case dont make sense at all and if you really look into it you will see that the government was wrong in stopping the contract.
Now,please answer these questions and dont get caught by 'jazba'.
1.Did dowans deliver the services they were supposed to?Did they produce electricity?
2.Did they get paid for the 9 months that they generated electricity?
3.Does it matter who own dowans?Really?
4.Do you think the generators that dowans have are scrap ?i.e in bad shape?
5.Do you think we have the right to nationalize dowans generators?Will that be justice?
6.What about songas?IPTL do you think we have a parasitic relationship with them?or is it mutual?
Please answer these questions without jazba,or name calling because anger is a form of a weak mind!

Kaka tatizo la dowans sio labda inavifaa vibovu au imeshindwa kutoa huduma ya umeme,tatizo hapa hii kampuni ilipataje tenda hii ?Jinsi ilivyo
pata hii tenda maswali yanakuja kampuni hii imetoka wapi ili tuweze kujua utendaji wao wa kazi,Je mmiliki ni nani kwa sabau hii ni nchi na wala sio kampuni.Sasa unapata majibu kampuni hii imetoka sijui costalika mara uarabuni na kesho utasikia zimbabwe,je wewe unaona hii kampuni inasifa ya kuuzia umeme taifa la tanzania?Swala la kulipwa MKUU kwa uduma waliotupa kwa miezi9 atujawalipa kwa sababu hatujui nani hasa mmiliki halali kwani tunaweza tukamlipa ambaye si mhusika halali alafu tukawa tumetapeliwa.kumjua muhusika ni vizuri ilituweze kumuwajibisha akitoa huduma mbaya alafu ili ulipe inabidi umfahamu mdai halisi na si mpambe.Kampuni yenyewe haijulikani na hivyo ni vigumu kupata histori ya hiyo mitambo hata kama inang'ara kama nini .Huwezi kumiliki mali ya mtu ndio maana tunamtafuta mmiliki tumkabizi mitambo yake lakini yeye ataki anatuma wapambe.wote hao ndio hao hao tu,gesi yetu umeme bei juu.

 

[Papa D]

Firs,let me remind dr slaa that CDMs constitution supports free market.Free market is controlled mainly by forces of demand and supply.
Having said that,I find it weird when you criticize the government for not controlling the ongoing food price hikes esp. sugar.Dont you think that the market regulates itself based on consumer's demand?

Ndugu:-
Soko huria uongozwa na uhuri wa wazalishaji na/au wasambazaji kutopanga bei bali wingi wa bidhaa sokoni ndo hupanga bei. Hii ni tofauti kwa Tanzania. Angalia mfano Sukari-wazalishaji wa sukari wameamua kufungia sukari kwenye maghala ili iwe chache hivo kupandisha bei. Kibaya zaidi wanajua kuwa hata viwanda vyao vikizalisha at full swing bado wote kwa pamoja watapata soko la kutosha kwa hivo wanachofanya ni kukaa kwa pamoja ki-siri na kupanga amount of supply with prices. SUCH SITUATION IS NOT A FREE MARKET RATHER A CONTROLLED MARKET!!!
Kifupi Tanzania bado hakuna free market maana wazalishaji wana kaa pamoja kupanga bei!!

 

[Kobello]

Firs,let me remind dr slaa that CDMs constitution supports free market.Free market is controlled mainly by forces of demand and supply.
Having said that,I find it weird when you criticize the government for not controlling the ongoing food price hikes esp. sugar.Dont you think that the market regulates itself based on consumer's demand?

Ndugu:-
Soko huria uongozwa na uhuri wa wazalishaji na/au wasambazaji kutopanga bei bali wingi wa bidhaa sokoni ndo hupanga bei. Hii ni tofauti kwa Tanzania. Angalia mfano Sukari-wazalishaji wa sukari wameamua kufungia sukari kwenye maghala ili iwe chache hivo kupandisha bei. Kibaya zaidi wanajua kuwa hata viwanda vyao vikizalisha at full swing bado wote kwa pamoja watapata soko la kutosha kwa hivo wanachofanya ni kukaa kwa pamoja ki-siri na kupanga amount of supply with prices. SUCH SITUATION IS NOT A FREE MARKET RATHER A CONTROLLED MARKET!!!
Kifupi Tanzania bado hakuna free market maana wazalishaji wana kaa pamoja kupanga bei!!

Blaza,wazalishaji na wafanyabiashara siku zote wanatakakupata faida hiyo siyo watu matajiri tu! hata wazalendo wako tayari kuuwa maalbino kwa ajili ya pesa.Pesa ni shetani ndugu yangu.
Nilitegemea mtu mpenda watu haamasishe cooperative economy,maana yake ni uchumi wa kiushirika kati ya wananchi.Serikali ikiwapa msaada wa kusamehe kodi kwa consumer cooperatives ili wanunue bidhaa nje bila kutozwa ushuru,hawa mafisadi watapunguza tu bei,siyo kuwapunguzia gharama hawa wafanyabiashara ambao nadhani wana mkono kwa mbowe/slaa!..we utakuja ona tu! this is a game! nimewashtukia!! wote CCM na CDM!

 

[Kobello]

Kaka tatizo la dowans sio labda inavifaa vibovu au imeshindwa kutoa huduma ya umeme,tatizo hapa hii kampuni ilipataje tenda hii ?Jinsi ilivyo
pata hii tenda maswali yanakuja kampuni hii imetoka wapi ili tuweze kujua utendaji wao wa kazi,Je mmiliki ni nani kwa sabau hii ni nchi na wala sio kampuni.Sasa unapata majibu kampuni hii imetoka sijui costalika mara uarabuni na kesho utasikia zimbabwe,je wewe unaona hii kampuni inasifa ya kuuzia umeme taifa la tanzania?Swala la kulipwa MKUU kwa uduma waliotupa kwa miezi9 atujawalipa kwa sababu hatujui nani hasa mmiliki halali kwani tunaweza tukamlipa ambaye si mhusika halali alafu tukawa tumetapeliwa.kumjua muhusika ni vizuri ilituweze kumuwajibisha akitoa huduma mbaya alafu ili ulipe inabidi umfahamu mdai halisi na si mpambe.Kampuni yenyewe haijulikani na hivyo ni vigumu kupata histori ya hiyo mitambo hata kama inang'ara kama nini .Huwezi kumiliki mali ya mtu ndio maana tunamtafuta mmiliki tumkabizi mitambo yake lakini yeye ataki anatuma wapambe.wote hao ndio hao hao tu,gesi yetu umeme bei juu.

Kwa hiyo watu wanakosa umeme based on some logistics in procurement?Public procurement policy yetu ukichanganya na contract laws zetu ndio zimecreate loopholes kwa hawa wafisadi.Badala ya kubadilisha na kuangalia wapi tumekosea na kuchukua hatua za maana,tunaleta hasira na kutaka kutaifisha mali za watu.
Hata kama kampuni ni ya Ali kiba,tumepata umeme murua! utemi wenu ukaleta kiza! acheni bwana!! turudishieni umeme,mnatutesa wote nyie sisiem na chadezo!....i mean chadema!

 

[Mombo Wetu]

Hivi sii kweli kwamba chi za maggharibi serikali zao wanatoa elimu bure toka walipoanza kujenga dira ya mataifa yao. Vivyo hivyo ktk Afya na huduma zote za kijamii kwa kutambua kwanza ni taifa aina gani wanalotaka kulijenga .
Freemarket economy sio siasa, sii itikadi wala sio sera fulani inayoitaka serikali kutochukua majukumu ya kutoa huduma.

Hii haihusiani kabisa na mamlaka au uwezo wa serikali kutoa huduma muhimu bure kwa wananchi au kuwatoza.... Na ati ikiwatoza basi ndio freemaket economy inavyotaka..
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Nafikiri watu wengi wanachanganya vitu,ni ujinga mkubwa kufikiria kwamba serikali inapowatoza wanafunzi ada au kugharama afya ya wananchi kama wananvyofanya CCM leo, basi hiyo ndio freemarket economy..

Maajabu makubwa, msomi anapokuja hapa na kuchanganua ilani ya chama ktk kukidhi mahitaji ya wananchi wake kuwa ni pinzani na freemarket economy, hali huko Marekani, Japan, Uingereza, Canada kwenye kizazi cha freemarket, serikali zao wanazitoa huduma hizi buree.. Kwa maana hii nasikitika sana kumsoma mwandishi wetu kwani hili ndilo tatizo kubwa la wasomi wetu ambao wamesoma mambo makubwa toka vitabuni na kwa kiingereza lakini wameshindwa kuiweka elimu yao ktk matumizi kwa sababu hawajawahi kuona ubora wa elimu ktk ubora wa matumizi yake, na kuchanganua pia uharamu wake..

Wengi wamedanganyika na kuamini kwamba serikali inapowatoza wanafunzi ada au kuwatoza wananchi wake gharama za tiba ya afya na kadhalika basi huo ndijo ubepari...

Pia tatizo la wasomi wetu hawa practice tranfer of knowledge wao wana copy na ku paste bila kuangalia context..Kwa wenzetu wakisema quota policy ya maziwa mfano mwanafunzi anayesoma policy in agric and dev anaona hiyo chain katika uhalisia na anaweza ku trace maziwa kutoka farm mpaka supermarket hapo hapo kwao...sisi huku tunamfundisha mwanafunzi wetu mfano huo huo wa qota ya maziwa ya EU for example ila tu kwenye sehemu ya nchi tuna pachika jina la Tanzania. Inapokuja kwenye kuelewa basi craming capacity ndo inatofautisha wanafunzi wetu na siyo understanding and how applicable is that policy...So hiyo product ndo inakuja kuwa policy oficer wizarani ambaye ndiyo practical person akipewa assignment anachanganya craming aliyoifanya na kuongezea na google literatures alafu anapeleka policy document...ukiangalia kilicho andikwa humo na ambacho kinakuwa practiced on ground ni mbingu na dunia...So vitu vingi viko in abstract ukilinganisha theory na what we daily practice na ndiyo maana ukiona mtu anatoa mfano wa free market ni michanganyo kwa kwenda mbele...