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Is Donald Trump the most bizarre US presidential candidate ever?

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  1. Rutashubanyuma

    Rutashubanyuma JF-Expert Member

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    Is Donald Trump the most bizarre US presidential candidate ever?

    With incendiary comments on Iraq, Libya and Obama's birth, the property tycoon has livened up the Republicans' search for a 2012 candidate




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    • [​IMG] Donald Trump speaks to GOP women's groups at the Treasure Island Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas on 28 April. Photograph: David Becker/Getty Images

      The bright lights of the Las Vegas strip were an apt setting for the Donald Trump carnival roadshow to end up in last week. Amid the garish neon of the gigantic Treasure Island Casino, the business mogul-turned-reality TV star-turned-potential Republican presidential candidate made his latest stop.
      Speaking at an event called The Reagan Revolution: From Ronald to Donald, Trump made his pitch to an audience of Nevada Republican bigwigs and curious onlookers in one of the key early-voting states in the nomination process. In the casino's ballroom, which featured an ice statue of himself, Trump gave a virtuoso performance that was full of braggadocio and littered with expletives. "Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people," he said, before referring to the Chinese government as "mother****ers" against whom he'd raise trade tariffs.
      Despite such a performance – and perhaps because of it – there is no doubt that Trump has injected a remarkable shot of adrenaline into the stilted Republican search for a nominee to take on Barack Obama next year. One perhaps should have expected no less from the flamboyant figure who is a household name in America not for his politics, but his TV show The Apprentice and his catchphrase, "You're fired!"
      But, as Trump's "will he, won't he" campaign rolls on, the Republican party may be waking up to the fact that they have bitten off more than they can chew. Trump's decision to make "birtherism" his first big issue and fan the conspiracy theories about Obama's citizenship last week led to one of the more spectacular political bunfights of recent memory.
      Trump's claims to have sent investigators to Hawaii who had uncovered evidence to support him were dismissed in stunning fashion by the Oval office. As Trump touched down last Wednesday in New Hampshire – another key early-voting state – the White House revealed the president's long-form birth certificate, which birthers had said did not exist. So, instead of being treated as an emerging Republican champion with a tough pro-America agenda on China and business, Trump became a national media joke.
      Obama referred to him as a "carnival barker". A thundering New York Times editorial called the Trump-inspired situation "... a profoundly low and debasing moment". Fareed Zakaria, a CNN host, called Trump's birtherism "coded racism". CBS news anchor Bob Schieffer reacted to his questioning the standard of Obama's college credentials, saying: "That's just code for saying he got into law school because he's black. This is an ugly strain of racism."
      Such a media kicking would have sent any other potential candidate running for the hills. But not The Donald. He seemed overjoyed at the slew of headlines. "Today, I am very proud of myself," he told the press in New Hampshire, before hinting that he will continue to explore the idea of a run. Next month he will attend a Tea Party rally in South Carolina, his growing collection of another early-voting state.
      His travels are certainly starting to look like a genuine campaign. His poll numbers among Republicans certainly put him among the leaders, with a Rasmussen survey showing him on top with 19%. "Trump obviously has a slice of the vote. The question is: how big a slice is it?" said Steve Mitchell, chairman of Republican-leaning political consulting firm Mitchell Research.
      That prospect has most Democrats sharing Trump's delight at all the attention. Many had assumed he was in it just for the fame or to boost his TV show. But, increasingly, it seems he is serious – and even events like last week cannot deflect him from his path.
      Conversely, senior Republicans are nervous. Asked last week on CNN about his plans, Trump said he would make an announcement before June. "I think a lot of people will be happy," he said. His impact has been so potentially divisive that many suspect those happy people would be his Democratic opponents, not supporters of the party he hopes to lead.
      Whatever his decision, and no matter how well he does in any nomination race, ,Trump himself cannot really lose. With the bouffant hairdo that is more instantly recognisable than any policy position, the billionaire has long been a master of the fame game and immune to setback. Despite scandals about his private life and business bankruptcies, he has always emerged from the headlines with his ego fully intact.
      As he traipsed around New Hampshire in a black limo complete with a security detail, he was swarmed by fans who asked for his autograph and endured only a few heckles on the street. He participated in the usual footwork of New Hampshire campaigning by pressing the flesh in a diner in Portsmouth and then later in Newick's Lobster House in the village of Dover.
      But looking like a campaign does not mean that one can pull one off. Even a showman like Trump must know that if he does run he will face press scrutiny of his lavish lifestyle and sprawling business dealings. He already faces demands to release his tax returns, and the Huffington Post last week ran a story about suspected organised crime ties to some ex-business associates.
      His personal life will put off social conservatives who are a key segment of the Republican base: Trump is on his third marriage and not especially devout. His ostentatious lifestyle is out of step with a national mood still smarting from the "Great Recession". "He has enormous problems with Republican voters," Mitchell said.
      There are inconvenient truths like the fact that he has donated more campaign money to Democrats than Republicans, including Obama right-hand man Rahm Emanuel and Senate leader Harry Reid. Or that Trump has not bothered to vote in many elections in the past 20 years. Then there is his "foot-in-mouth" syndrome. Last week, he claimed a CNN poll showed him neck-and-neck with Obama. He repeated the claim in an interview on CNN itself. When CNN correctly denied it had ever conducted such a survey, Trump insisted he was right and it was wrong.
      Trump's gift for reducing events down to simplistic and populist soundbites has few limits. On Libya, Trump bluntly said the US should just take the country's oil, rather than assist rebels fighting Muammar Gaddafi. "We don't know who the rebels are, we hear they come from Iran, we hear they're influenced by Iran or al-Qaida, and, frankly I would go in, I would take the oil — and stop this baby stuff," he told Fox News. It is a sentiment he has gone on to repeat several other times.
      Yet all this is just the tip of the iceberg, with far more likely to come. That has many top Republican strategists terrified. "When Donald Trump not only dominates the airwaves but also the Republican polls then you know that they are a party in trouble," said Professor Bruce Gronbeck, a political expert at the University of Iowa. It is a general rule of US presidential politics that the middle ground "independents" hold the key to national victory. Yet Trump, by so aggressively advocating birtherism, has seen his support there dry up.
      In New Hampshire only 23% of independents have a positive view of him; in South Carolina it is 28% and Iowa 29%. Trump's brand is becoming toxic to moderates and many Republicans fear the poison will start to infect their party, even if he does not win the nomination. Perhaps even if he does not run at all.
      Yet Trump is striking a chord in part of the American psyche. Away from the clamour over birtherism, there are other elements of his message that resonate. His strident talk against China, which he has accused of "raping" the US economy, is powerful stuff in a country struggling with the mass outsourcing of its manufacturing industry and high unemployment. Trump can say these things so bluntly because he is an outsider to politics: something that also appeals to many disenchanted Americans.
      He is filling a huge void in a Republican party that has struggled to build on its victory in last year's mid-term elections. Instead of finding a united voice, the party appears deeply split between its Tea Party anti-government wing, still powerful social conservatives and a sliver of moderates. "Unifying a group like that looks next to impossible," said Professor Shaun Bowler, a political scientist at the University of California at Riverside.
      No wonder then that the field of Republican candidates alongside Trump has failed to inspire. It contains semi-famous names such as Ron Paul and Mitt Romney, who have run and failed before. It includes congresswoman Michele Bachmann, from the far right and former senator Rick Santorum. There is Newt Gingrich, who has not held office since the mid-1990s and whose private life is even more colourful than Trump's. There are virtual unknowns such as former Utah governor Jon Huntsman and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty. The few well-known names – Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee – are still on the fence, with Palin looking likely to stay out.
      The field is so barren that in the first TV debate of the contest, planned for this week, only four potential candidates have agreed to turn up. "Republicans are run ragged at the moment trying to find anyone. It's like the Keystone Cops driving around in a clown car," said Bowler. No wonder Trump was still smiling. He has swaggered into a void in the Republican field and the top party bigwigs have only themselves to blame.

      LONE MAVERICKS

      1924 Former Republican senator Robert LaFollette, backed by socialists, unions and farmers, takes 16% of the vote.
      1948 South Carolina governor Strom Thurmond campaigned on behalf of the States Rights Democratic party, which broke away over the issue of racial segregation. He polled just 2% of votes.
      1968 Former Georgia governor George Wallace launched a third party run over civil rights. He won 10 million votes.
      1992 and 1996 Texan oilman Ross Perot used his fortune to run. In 1992, he took almost 20 million votes, but failed to carry a single state. His policies tried to appeal to right and left, but erratic personal style led to a chaotic campaign.
     
  2. AshaDii

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    Trump may seem like a nut case but his actions speak louder than words, he may be observed as not serious in his deeds but really - he knows what he is doing... Although considered as having a gift for reducing events down to simplistic and populist soundbites he atleast has some points from his crude frankness. He has the guts to say the real truth of why the US is attacking Libya under the umbrella of protecting its people.


    On Libya, Trump bluntly said the US should just take the country's oil, rather than assist rebels fighting Muammar Gaddafi. "We don't know who the rebels are, we hear they come from Iran, we hear they're influenced by Iran or al-Qaida, and, frankly I would go in, I would take the oil - and stop this baby stuff," he told Fox News. It is a sentiment he has gone on to repeat several other times.

     
  3. Pharaoh

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    huyu anasumbuliwa na madeni makubwa yanayomtishia kufilisika, na katika kuhangaika anakimbilia siasa.
     
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    He may seem nut, or another political comic yeah but his words and messages are sun-glazing. What I believe is, he is just a Republican scout for the presidential post.
    The big picture is yet to begin..
     
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    I would call him a spoiler like AC was in the Speaker's race in Tanzanian Parliament. The incumbent speaker was a compromise candidate after getting rid of male contestants. The intended target in this case Barack Obama.
     
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    Even entertaining the idea of someone who has filed for bankruptcy on multiple occasions being President of the USA is one of those things that are synonymous with insanity. The man is a joke. His theatrics make it unthinkable that he should even get near the chance of having the nuclear button. Donald Trump is just bored. Something to do with a billion dollars and erectile dis function occurring simultaneously. Bad IDEA! But you know what they say, only in America.
     
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    hahahhaha ebu andika kwa kiswahili. Una maanisha D trump dudu yake haisimami bila kupigwa jeki ya viagra
     
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    Zing JF-Expert Member

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    Jamaa yuko sahihi ila nadhani ufahamu wake juu ya mambo mbali mbali unatia shaka. Pesa inamuokoa sana

    Binafsi naona hana tofauti na hawa

     
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    Ni hatari jinsi tunavyofikiri fedha zitakupa kila utakacho... bora Bill Gate agombee kuliko huyu..
     
  10. AshaDii

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    Aisee the answers so very embarrassing and biased, I really though citizens wao ni wafuatiliaji kumbe nao matope kabisaa! No wonder Trump yuko hivyo.... na aendele vivyo hivyo kuwachanganya wa US viongozi... ila ndo hawezi chaguliwa...
     
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  11. Rutashubanyuma

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    Aisee the answers so very embarrassing and biased, I really though  citizens wao ni wafuatiliaji kumbe nao matope kabisaa!  No wonder Trump  yuko hivyo.... na aendele vivyo hivyo kuwachanganya wa US viongozi...  ila ndo hawezi chaguliwa...
    Hayo ni matunda ya AMerican exceptionalism.............................ambayo ukifuatilia kwa karibu yamaanisha American vacuousness in global issues............
     
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