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Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Lifer, May 26, 2009.

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    Lifer Member

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    I am tired of talking. I dont like what is happening in my country Tanzania today. The government seems not to care what I want or think. So I will stop talking. I will do what is nessesary and what ought to have been done a long time ago. We as Tanzanians have been taking it in the ass for soo long from corrupt public servants and corrupt businessmen and coporations such as the ones listed below, we ought to say enough is enough. I am going to make sure am not their bitch nomore and so should anyone who is a proud Tanzanian. I have a plan and you can join.



    To start with, I am going to deal with the coporations below. I will also deal with any Tanzanian who facilitated and continues to facilitate their operations in this country.Because such a person is a traitor to his fellow countrymen. I guess ya all know what they usually do to traitors....China comes to mind (-: They Chinese hang such people. They also go after their family, extended family infact. Ohh.. I love how they handle corrupt public servants out in China. No extended public enquiries, no extended commisions of enquiry. The process usualy takes two weeks at most and if found guilty, the culprit and his family pay the price. He pays with death and the family wanafilisiwa. am thinking?? **** we ought to be doing the same!! what do u think ?

    Barrick Gold Tanzania
    Tanzania Royality Exploration Corporation
    Anglo Gold Ashanti
    TanzaniteOne (AFGEM)
    Resolute
    East African Gold
     
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    Hauxtable JF-Expert Member

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    ...well, i would suppose you try something else mate.I'm jolly proud of my country but never been their Bi***.
     
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    Lifer Member

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    me you and any Tanzanian who stands by and let them continue doing what they are doing today in this country is their bitch. Your are gettting fucked mate wether you like it or not. Unless you one of those who is benefiting from what these fuckers are doing this country.Are you one of them? If you are, you can rest assured I will come after you and your family. If your not one of them you got nothing to worry about.
     
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    Kaa la Moto JF-Expert Member

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    Yes Lifer, I was angry to this same point some time ago. I had to suspend this idea, as I don't think this will do. I think this can be effective only when poor Tanzanians will wake from ignorance they have right now. Most of them are blinded by Khanga and t-shirts. You might kill almost everyone in this country due to ignorance they have in their heads.
     
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    Hauxtable JF-Expert Member

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    Ooohhhh!!,that!!:rolleyes::rolleyes: "Meet the Fuckers" its called,i've watched it once. i thought you were WRITTING Abt.something else.
     
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    KARIBUNI NYUMBANI!
    together we can do
     
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    Mpita Njia JF-Expert Member

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    Mind to share what is your plan?
     
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    skasuku Senior Member

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    Bila ya kukukatisha tamaa, I hope you have some serious financial resources, political and personal will, and last but not least, wewe um-safii...

    Could you elaborate what you mean with "Deal with...." maanake this can be taken out of context na ku labeled "Terrorist".....
     
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    Lifer Member

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    Am thinkin Ernesto Cheguevara, Joseph Kony, John Garang, .... Blood has to be spilled for change to come around. Am thinkin "A Reble force" (I am confident I can get financing, trainning and heavy artillery).Am thinkin Six months intensive trainning of a group of people with the right state of mind (slightly pissed off, hungry for a piece of the pie, generous in sharing this pie & proudly Tanzanian). It is important for this group to not keep the loot to themselves but also play Robbin hood. They have to let the majority "wet their beak" By playing Robbin Hood there will be public sympathy which is essential here.It will also differentiate our motives from those of the fuckers. We can start by going after the stuff that comes from the list below. Do you know how they get the stuff out of the country? Probably they fly it out, most of it!! From small airports, using small airplanes. There is a flight manifest somewhere, and these flights are all logged! with a rocket propelled grenade or some shoulder launched missile of some sort we can bring em down!! The Stuff wouldnt melt, but the fuckers will!

    How happy was I when I heard the story bout the 6.5 Bars that were robbed from Resolutes mine in Nzega. I hope it was my fellow country men who did it. I absolutely condone the action. In this case am forced to advocate such behavior, am for it!


    Bulyanhulu
    Geita
    North Mara
    Buzwagi
    Tusker
    Buckreef/Rwamagaza
    Golden Pride
    Golden Ridge
    Nyakafuru
    Buhemba
    Mgusu
    Singida
    Kitongo
    Isegenghe Hill
    Miyabi
    Tulawaka
    Ikungu
     
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    Kinyambiss JF-Expert Member

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    OK.. now I see JF is becoming a breeding ground for revolutionaries/radicals.. Well, a word of advice, moderation is the way to go... radicals never achieve anything in the grand scheme of things.. They just speak a language that is easily understood by the masses/mob. Mining contracts are a serious problem but agriculture is worth much more and its not going to be finished in 30 years... mbona ufisadi kwenye kilimo mdogo kama sisi ni mafisadi sana wakati kila siku tunaskia ndio utimwa mgongo wa uchumi..?

    There is nothing to steal, that is the problem, because our capacity is soo small.. Can you imagine such a weak economy, 80% in dar es salaam. In other words if someone were to explode a thermal nuclear device over dar, killing all the inhabitants there, about 3-4 million, out of the 40 million population... 80% of our economy would be destroyed.... Imagine! there would be 35 or so million people left in the country and they would be the poorest inhabitants on the planet... We have no national economy, that is what is amazing!

    So I dont think these companies are the main problem, they are nothing but a manifestation of the problem.
     
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    Lifer Member

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    The country needs change. The country needs nationalists with "balls". Are you feeling insighted yet?? Are you feeling riled up enough? Do you have the balls? If you do, find a way to get intouch. Maybe we can do this together...
     
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    Juma Contena JF-Expert Member

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    you might find yourself standing in front of international law court before you finish the job of giving the traitors what you think they deserve. we dont want blood in the 21 century we want diplomatic solutions just as they're willing to compromise that is the traitors you described. stop living with anger learn to compromise.
     
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    IronBroom JF-Expert Member

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    Moja:
    Kinachofanyika huko migodini unakijua mkuu?Unajua watanzania wangapi wamefukiwa huko mashimoni?Unajua manyanyaso ya hao wanaolazimika kuwatumikia hao jamaa kwa sababu tu ya njaa zao?

    Mbili:
    Kinachofanywa na hawa jamaa na washirika wao(hao tuliowakabidhi hii nji) ni wizi.Hili unalifahamu.Dawa na mwizi ni nini?

    Tatu:
    Matatizo ya afya,elimu na barabara yangepungua kwa kiasi kikubwa sana katika maeneo yoote yenye mawe endapo kinachopatika huko kingetumika inavyopaswa.What do they do instead?What do we have in those areas as a result?Mashimo,mapigano,dharau,you name it etc....

    Sasa Juma Contena usimtishe Lifer.Mwache aweke mkakati wake tuuchambue na kuurekebisha ikibidi.

    My take:
    Hadi tuchapane(this could mean torture to the point of no return) ndio mambo yatabadilika.Bila Kibano cha kueleweka tutaendelea kulala na hao jamaa kutulalia.
     
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    Kinyambiss JF-Expert Member

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    wewe acha siasa za jazba.. wachimbaji wa mererani wanafukiwa na wenyemigodi kama kafara hamsemi..! This is BS. It is exactly this kind of thinking that colludes fairness and it is why we dont want radicals. Hali ni mbaya na inahitaji kurekebishwa lakini kusema makosa ni ya wazungu wakati sisi ndio tumesign nao hii mikataba ni ujinga.. We are in the wrong above them.. They just got a good deal so wanakula chao.. Sisi ndio tunatakiwa kuamka turekebishe haya mambo.
     
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    Unamsahau Field Marshal John Gideon Okello, mwanamapinduzi halisi wa Zanzibar ambaye alifanya kweli wakati "wanamapinduzi" wengine eti walikuwa Darisalama?
     
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    skasuku Senior Member

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    Mkuu Lifer, hebu tupe wasifa wako tuelewe wewe ni mtu wa aina gani. Najaribu kuelewa fikira zako lakini nashindwa balance hili equation uliotutupia hapa.

    Je kuna wakati unasikia sauti zinazokuogoza ufanye maovu? Au ndio tuite mid life crisis?

    Sidhani watu wa Tanzania au popote pale duniani tunahitaji msimamo kama wako kuleta mabadiliko, kuna njia nyingi sana ambazo hazina umwagaji damu au ukorofi wa aina hii.

    Kuna wataalamu wanaoweza kukusaidia upunguze jazba.....
     
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    Froida JF-Expert Member

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    @ Lifer
    Keep on raising your voice turning mute it wont help you nor your fellow Tanzanians ,your voice means a lot we need to sensitise the government,this country is ours if they have forgotten they need to be reminded other wise many people at one time the public will decide to do whatever they want to do and that will be the worsiest moment our government will learn something and blamethemselves for the situation they have nurtured and it will be already too late.
     
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    Lifer Member

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    • Pictured Ms Otiego Mseti, one of the reportedly infected villagers


    The human cost of gold in Tanzania: And a deadly price to pay

    VILLAGERS living near a gold mine owned and run by Canada’s Barrick Gold Corp. in Tarime District, Mara Region are demanding the immediate closure of the project, saying they are paying a deadly price for the mining activities in the area.

    Already, scores of people residing around Barrick’s North Mara Gold Mine are showing serious signs of exposure to pollution in the form of water contaminated with various chemicals allegedly flowing out of the mine and into the nearby River Tigethe.

    The villagers accuse the mine management, under the Canadian investor company, of causing fatal health hazards to human beings, livestock, and land in Kebasula Ward in Tarime, where the mine is located.

    They say more than 20 people have died in recent weeks as a direct result of the contaminated water.

    ’’We have no problem with investors. But the investors must respect and treat us like human beings. These Canadians are killing us...they are not doing business,’’ said Ms Esther Mugusuhi, one of a group of affected villagers interviewed by THISDAY in Dar es Salaam yesterday.

    Ms Mugusuhi said the mining activities by Barrick Gold have incapacitated her and many others, in her case rendering her right hand dysfunctional.

    ’’I used to work productively in my farm, but I am now a dependent person...all because of the investors,’’ she asserted.

    She called on the Canadian Government to intervene in the environmental nightmare by ensuring medical costs for all the victims of pollution in the area are footed.

    Another villager, Mkwave Mwita, pointed an accusing finger at the Tanzanian (home) Government for valuing mining activities by foreign investors more than it values the welfare of its own citizens.

    ’’I think this is the only country on earth where stones (gold) are more valuable than human beings,’’ Mwita stated.

    Like Ms Mugusuhi, he also said the Canadian Government is morally obliged to help those affected by the North Mara Gold Mine operations because ’’it is Canadians that are reaping more benefits from Tanzanian mineral resources than Tanzanians themselves.’’

    Pictorial and other evidence from the area strongly indicate a real danger of more people residing around the mine area and using the River Tigethe waters for various household uses contracting serious diseases that have so far remained a puzzle to local medics, and could eventually even kill them.

    The villagers described infections that start with increased body itching and frequent yawning, causing victims to scratch their bodies and end up with lacerations.

    The chairman of Kebasula Ward’s CCM branch, Keremani Nyakiha, was part of the group interviewed, and said more than 20 people have so far died as a result of the infections within the past couple of months.

    He said many more villagers in the area are bed-ridden and with little hope of recovering due to lack of appropriate medical attention, while there are reports that over 150 cattle have died of the ’disease.’

    Despite his CCM posting in the ward, Nyakiha did not hesitate to blame the Government for ’’playing politics’’ with the lives of people over this matter.

    ’’This is not an issue of politics...it is about people’s lives,’’ he said, adding: ’’The situation in Kebasula is terrible - people are dying, cattle are dying, dogs are dying, everything is dying. Soon there will be no living organism in the area...not even toads.’’

    He castigated district and regional government leaders of deliberately turning a blind eye to reports of villagers dying of the allegedly poisonous infection, and favouring the investors instead.

    ’’It is ridiculous and shameful for a whole Government leader to dismiss in public what is obvious to everybody. If the Government has nothing to do for its people, it had better just keep quiet,’’ Nyakiha asserted.

    Asked to mention any benefits the surrounding village communities may be reaping from the mining project, he retorted: ’’Nothing...just dust and skin diseases.’’

    The group of villagers are in Dar es Salaam on a mission to raise public awareness on their case, courtesy of the Norwegian Church Aid non-governmental organisation.

    Independent medical experts consulted by THISDAY say the villagers could be suffering from cyanide poisoning as a result of expanded mining activity. It is understood that short-term exposure to high levels of cyanide harms the central nervous system, respiratory system, and cardiovascular system. Even very small concentrations of the toxic substance can kill humans, fish, birds, livestock and plant life.

    However, when contacted for comment late yesterday, Barrick Tanzania spokesperson Teweli Teweli dismissed the allegations as baseless, saying Kebasula Ward – situated about 30 kilometres from the mine – is too far to be vulnerable to any seepage from the mine’s sewage pond.

    He named villages surrounding the mine as Nyangoto, Kewanja, Genkuru, and Nyamongo.

    ’’Following the problem of water leakage on May 9 this year, we conducted a meeting with the surrounding communities and agreed that any anomaly to cattle or human beings should be reported to us...but we heard nothing until the ward councillor wrote to us about the deaths of 18 people,’’ Teweli told THISDAY.

    He dismissed any chance of a ’’scientific’’ connection between the claimed deaths and Barrick North Mara Mine operations.

    Teweli said initial remedial work to intercept and divert water from the mine from reaching waterways in the vicinity has been completed and ongoing remediation and monitoring continues.

    ’’Management and monitoring of this specific situation will remain a priority of the mine,’’ he added.

    Meanwhile, Prime Minister Mizengo Pinda yesterday directed the Minister for Home Affairs, Lawrence Masha, to investigate the reported pollution at the Barrick North Mara Gold Mine.

    The premier gave the directive when responding to a question from the Tarime Member of Parliament, Charles Mwera (CHADEMA), who wanted to know from the Government what is to be the fate of victims of the reported mine pollution.
     
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