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Hivi Zanzibar ile ni selikali ya umoja wa kitaifa au ya vyama viwili?

Discussion in 'Uchaguzi Tanzania' started by silver25, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. silver25

    silver25 JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa uelewa wangu mimi, najua Selikali ya umoja wa kitaifa huundwa na vyama vyote ambavyo vinahusika katika kukamilisha uchaguzi mkuu wa vyama vingi, ninapo sema hivyo namaanisha vyama vyote viwe na muwakilishi kama si wawakilishi katika selikali kuu.

    Sasa hapa Zenji kama si changa la macho what is that? naomba mfafanuo wa kilichofanyika zenji,, kama ni umoja wa vyama viwili yaani CCM na CUF? na vyama vingine vinanafasi gani? au havina nafasi,,

    Mi naona hawa jamaa wamefunga ndoa sasa wanataka Mapenzi yao waiaribu nchi ya Zenj
     
  2. Utingo

    Utingo JF-Expert Member

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    Hivi ile Serikali ya Mapinduzi Zanzibar imekwenda wapi? wapemba watakuwa wanachekelea sana. in few years it will be in museum
     
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    Nonda JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu,
    Wewe unataka, unaomba uelimishwe, ufahamishwe nini GNU halafu unasema hivi,"Mi naona hawa jamaa wamefunga ndoa sasa wanataka Mapenzi yao waiaribu nchi ya Zenj"

    Ni wazi kuwa uelewa wako wa nini GNU ni mdogo.
    Ushauri tu. Ni vizuri upitie hiyo sheria inayozungumzia GNU katika Katiba ya Zanzibar, halafu tafuta mifano katika nchi ambazo zinatumia mfumo huo popote duniani.
    Pengine baada ya kujielimisha kidogo utaweza kui-rephrase hii," Mi naona hawa jamaa wamefunga ndoa sasa wanataka Mapenzi yao waiaribu nchi ya Zenj"

    Walishaiharibu nchi yao kwa miaka mingi , sasa labda wametia akili ndio wanataka kuijenga upya.
    Natumai unaelewa huko zenj walikuwa kwenye migogoro na miafaka tokea 1995. waacheni wavute pumzi kidogo.
    Mimi naona experiment yao ikifana huko inaweza kujaribiwa na huku kwetu.
     
  4. Safari_ni_Safari

    Safari_ni_Safari JF-Expert Member

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    Hakuna serikali zanzibar.....ni utawala tu.....Serikali ya kweli lazima iwe ina jeshi lake,balozi zake nchi zingine na banki kuu yake....Zanzibar haina hivi vitu....tupumzike wandugu
     
  5. silver25

    silver25 JF-Expert Member

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    Safari umejibu vyema bwana lakini Whai is Selikali ya kitaifa?
     
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    Acha kuwashtua manake wakishtukia tu muungano nao mwisho...
     
  7. Safari_ni_Safari

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    Taifa lipi ndugu yangu? Hakuna taifa la Zanzibar...tatizo ni Maalim Sefu tu na kutaka ukubwa basi na wala si jingine...sasa kapata madaraka unaona hata CUF inapotea taratibu
     
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    Safari_ni_Safari JF-Expert Member

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    Waliamka 1984 wakakaa macho hadi 2010...sasa wamerudi kulala fofofo...usiwe na wasiwasi kula maisha
     
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    Paul S.S Verified User

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    Mkuu tatizo unang'ang'ana na jina badala ya 'kontentsi'
    Issue sio vyama viwili ingawa ndio vilivyopelekea ikawa hivyo,
    Kilichopo ni kwa mujibu wa katiba ni kuwa kama ikitokea vyama vikipishana kwa idadi flani ndogo ya kura na wabunge basi vitashirikiana kuunda serikali kwa mgawanyo uliowekwa thats all.
    mfano uchaguzi ujao nccr ikipata 44% na cdm 53% basi chadema wataunda smz kushirikiana na nccr.
    Natumai umepata picha
     
  10. Safari_ni_Safari

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    Still haiifanyi Zanzibar kuwa taifa....period...pale pan mfumo wa utawala...kwanza ni makosa kusema Serikali ya Mapinduzi(SMZ) wakati ni serikali iliyoletwa kwa kupiga kura...SMZ ni ile ya Karume ya 1964...baada ya 1995 haikuwepo tena......kwa kuwa vyama vingi vilirudi na uchaguzi wa kweli ulifanyika....labada kama waliipindua CUF iliyoshinda hiyo 1995........ukishapigisha kura watu basi dhana ya mapinduzi haipo tena
     
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    Utabishana weeeeee utachoka!!!
    Watu hawaelezi haya yoote usemayo!!!!

    Alalaye usmwamshe, ukithubutu utalala wewe.....
     
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    Serikali ya Umoja wa Kitaifa ya Serikali ya Mapinduzi Zanzibar??????...................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Aah Safari, serikali si lazima iwe na hayo yote. Hayo yapo kwenye DOLA. Mf. Je serikali yako ya mtaa ina hivyo vyote ulivyovitaja?
     
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    Ni serikali ya umoja wa vyama viwili ya CCM UNITED FRONT
     
  16. musmyl

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    zanzibar daima na muungano sio mbali utjulikana moja

     
  17. Safari_ni_Safari

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    Ushasema ya mitaa...najua zipo pia za wanafunzi,wafungwa nk.........hoja inaongelea ya ''taifa'' na mimi nakomalia hapo Zanzibar sio taifa wala dola....ni mfumo wa utawala katika Tanzania...hivi mfano Comoro ivamie Zanzibar nani atajibi mapigo TANZANIA au ZANIBAR?....noti za Zanzibar zinasemaje?....Balozi wa Zanzibar huko Kenya aitwaje:?......Taifa la Zanzibar lilikufilia mbali 1964...period...tumeachiwa mauzauza yasoisha...kama kili kitabu MAKE THE CORPSE WALK...impossibilium
     
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    Paul S.S Verified User

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    Mkuu nilikua najaribu kumuelewesha mtoa mada juu ya hoja yake ya msingi, lakini naona sasa wewe umekomalia ile sio taifa wala serikali, tena unazidi kusema sio smz maana wamepiga kura tayari.
    Kimsingi mimi nadhani unatatizwa na mfumo huu kwakua tu haujawahi tokea usa, uk, australia nk. Sehemu ambazo ndio unadhani tunapaswa kuwaiga kwa kila kitu.
    Mkuu hivi ndivyo 'tulivyokubaliana' kuungana kutokana na mazingira yetu..
    Nashindwa kuelewe unaposema sio ya mapinduzi tena kwakuwa wamepiga kura.
    Unapaswa kujua kuwa moja ya sababu kubwa iliopelekea smz indelee kuwepo niwao kulinda neno mapinduzi
     
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    Ehud JF-Expert Member

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    Inaitwa serikali ya umoja wa kitaifa wa vyama viwili!
     
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