Hivi ni kweli Kenya inaonewa mipakani?

AHA.. you wanted me and my friends to go watch an uninteresting tournament after we were bungled out, i'd rather take a flight to SA and watch our Rugby sevens team play and drink good beer while at it, use your head to think. Your heart was broken when we dint show up for those matches huh? pole kama ni hivyo.

Ati our export aren't good, stop coming up with thins from the top of your head, think, between the two countries, who exports more to other countries???? Thats not hard, just bing it if you cant think.

Mmmh!Kindly,You are entitled to your ideas BUT only if they are not disturbing the peace in here.Keep them to yourself.If you feel the article is out of control,PM the person who posted it na sio kuchafua hali ya hewa hapa JF.You are insulting all of us when you say yote hayo.I'm saying this out of respect and if you feel otherwise,PM me!
 
Sometimes I fail to understand why Kenyans bother with Tanzania, we should just ignore each other, close all the borders, let our military guard all the entry point, and see who are the first ones to try and cross into the other country, and I propose the illegal immigrant be shot at sight.

You have a false impression that Kenyans need Tanzanians so much, to some extent this might be true, we need you as markets for our finished products and services (and it doesnt matter if the industries are foreign owned, as long as it employs Kenyans, who am I to complain). All this EAC bullS** is simply accelerating our hatred towards each other.

Mod, get rid off this trash heart disease, desparate street boy. Anatukana tu.
 
AHA.. you wanted me and my friends to go watch an uninteresting tournament after we were bungled out, i'd rather take a flight to SA and watch our Rugby sevens team play and drink good beer while at it, use your head to think. Your heart was broken when we dint show up for those matches huh? pole kama ni hivyo.

Ati our export aren't good, stop coming up with thins from the top of your head, think, between the two countries, who exports more to other countries???? Thats not hard, just bing it if you cant think.

Mods, street guys should not have access in this Jukwaa la Jamii. It is a home of greet thinkers and NOT drunk thinkers.
Here the issue is not the ability to write but the things you want to address. Sasa huyu Mbegu Mbaya anatukana tu matusi, hii si utamaduni wetu wa kuongea carelessness.

Please Abt-Tchaz ondoa post zake zote so as to keep the JF in order.

I remain.
eliakeem.
 
AHA.. you wanted me and my friends to go watch an uninteresting tournament after we were bungled out, i'd rather take a flight to SA and watch our Rugby sevens team play and drink good beer while at it, use your head to think. Your heart was broken when we dint show up for those matches huh? pole kama ni hivyo.

Ati our export aren't good, stop coming up with thins from the top of your head, think, between the two countries, who exports more to other countries???? Thats not hard, just bing it if you cant think.

why excluding the REST OF EA while your arrogance is the same to the rest of EA countries so, it doesnt help to be specific on Tanzania alone! When we talk of exports we mean things you produce from raw materials to final products! Which one of those you talk about from that country of yours that cant even produce a toothpathe (everything is Unilevers todate) of its own! even beer (for the first time you managed this year to produce Summit beer), for all years Diageo has been doing for you and using your pompus ego fooling you with slogans like "my beer my country" !

When smart people talk of manufactured goods they dont talk of a country that todate has nothing to be proud of whether you talk of hygienic towels, detergent, toilet paper and whatsever that a sensible man can produce; they talk of your own brands and not underlicenced brands, FOOL get it!! Do you think Kenya will be like lets say Germany if for all these years still produce foreign brands? When will you produce Kenyan cars and not assembling GM cars (>30%) all these years and yaping ati you are industrious country!

Having said that there is nothing Kenya can be proud of looking at the history (being darling of the West for all these years and you are here todate) for all the years during Cold War era! To prove a point on this, there is this bitter tendency now in Kenyan media to be so sensitive of little issues the West do to Tanzania, whether on Infrastructure, aid or even a mere meeting can be the whole week if not months' talk on their newspaper (check out how they have been taking over and over about their loss to host WEF http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/-/2558/821248/-/pxott3z/-/index.html) forgetting that you are irrelevant now! Stop this fear mongaring attitude that makes you not sleeping while forgetting that the West are just opportunists (not permanent friends) and today they are here but yesterday they were in Uganda and day before yesterday they were in Kenya! So be independent minded and dont fool yourselves thinking you are a giant!
 
Kenyans are nephotic, bitter loosers, illiterate, nationalistic and arrogant goons. If you want to win a Kenyan babe make her feel special like s1 you are dying for to exist since they love to be worshipped you will easily screw her! I wonder how Kenyans think are literate while they dont have 100% literacy level! It is like a monkey laughing at another monkey's butts thinking his are more pretty!
 
so you want me to repeat my statement..Tanzanians are xenophobic minded,poor,sadistic,illiterate,pathetic sods.

You baboon, two of your brothers have been critically injured in the Migingo Island and you are here stupidily bragging and arguing with civilized people in this forum! Are there men in that land of yours? Or you got men on the word of their mouths only !?

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More Uganda officers moved from Migingo

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Migingo Island on Lake Victoria. Photo/FILE
By ELISHA OTIENOPosted Wednesday, December 16 2009 at 15:21

Ugandan marine police officers based at the disputed Migingo Island in Lake Victoria have been replaced by a new team.
The latest move came barely three days after three senior officers were recalled to Bugiri District on suspicion of having shot and seriously injured two Kenyan fishermen on the island.
The new officers arrived aboard a motor boat. The boat left with eight officers who were previously manning the island.
Although the Ugandan national flag has not been hoisted on the island for several months since it was brought down following protests from the Kenyan authorities, fishermen questioned what became of the joint technical survey team picked by the two East African nations.
"Everything has gone quite since the Ugandan experts left to ostensibly consult their seniors in Kampala. Our Government on the other hand is not saying anything as far as the island ownership is concerned," says a fisherman Mr Patrick Onyango who has worked in the lake for nine years.
But the makeshift police camp manned by the Ugandans is still intact with a functional radio room for transmitting signals to their seniors on the mainland and a cell.
Offenders are usually taken in for "interrogation" at the camp.
Kenyan fishermen and traders said they were tired of operating at the mercy of the Ugandans whom they accused of intimidating and extorting cash from them daily.
The three officers transferred earlier were said to have been on the forefront of intimidating and harassing Kenyan fishermen and traders operating on the island. The officers were recalled back to Bugiri District as Kenyans celebrated their exit. Their removal came barely a few days after the Ugandan authorities launched investigations into the shooting of the two Kenyan fishermen.
The team led by a commandant of marine police identified only as Mr Opache arrived on the island in Lake Victoria last week to establish under what circumstances the Ugandan police shot the victims.
He interrogated the officers manning the island before recording statements from the suspects who reportedly pulled the trigger.
The Migori District police chief Eric Mugambi had led the Kenyan team to the island and described his meeting with the Ugandan counterparts as "very important"." We reached a raft of resolutions aimed at defusing tension on the island before the two Governments finally resolve the pending ownership dispute," he said.
The chairman of the Migingo beach management unit Mr Juma Ombori said Kenyan fishermen were tired of consistent harassment and intimidation by the Ugandan police and called for their removal from the fish-rich one – acre island.
The two fishermen were said to have been shot accidentally by stray bullets when the officers tried to separate two fighting fishermen.
One was shot on the hand and the other on his abdomen although medical workers said they were out of danger. The Ugandan officers were reported to have fired to scare the fighting duo – a Kenyan and a Ugandan, when the stray bullets injured the victims who were several metres away in their boats mending fishing nets.
Kenyans questioned why the officers pulled the trigger horizontally instead of pointing in the air. "And it was a minor fight that did not warrant wastage of bullets. These Ugandans officers have become a menace and it was time our Government kicked them out," said a fisherman Mr Malachi Owiyo.
Just last month, tension gripped the island following a fight between a Ugandan fisherman and a Kenyan female trader.
The two had differed over what was termed as "personal issues", before going for each other's throat. Kenyan fishermen present joined in the fracas thereby seriously injuring the Ugandan national who was later rushed by boat to a Bugiri District hospital for treatment. In the same month, a Kenyan fisherman Mr Benson Otieno Bunde was reportedly tortured by the Ugandan officers for demanding his Sh800 in change from a Ugandan trader.
The incident sparked off bitter protests from Kenyans, thereby bringing fishing operation at the busy island to a standstill. Leaders from South Nyanza demanded State security for fishermen operating on the island. MPs Edick Anyanga (Nyatike) and John Pesa (Migori) said the Kenyans must be protected from arbitrary arrests and intimidation by the Ugandan security forces guarding the island.
Mr Bunde had just eaten a meal of beans, chapati and beef worth Sh200 and produced a Sh1,000 note to pay the bill. But since the trader did not have the change, he asked the fisherman to come later, only to be arrested when he returned a few hours later.







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Wewe Smatta na Bad Seed, angalia sana! Tamaa iliua fisi, mnataka vyetu bure bure? Mmeitubia muda mrefu nyie, miaka yote hiyo mmetumia hizo 20km bure mkiziita no man's land, Samaki mmeiba mmemaliza hamtosheki, Mabenki mmeiba, Ng'ombe mmeiba Mara huko, hivi mwataka nini? U r not our friends, hayo yote mliyofanya kwa hila did not amuse us, that's why we don't trust u. And you managed to do it, kwa sababu ya watawala ambao nao walikuwa busy wanatuibia, some of our leaders, at different times were busy looting our govt coffers, except my lovely Mwalimu, they aren't any different from you. Lakini si kila mtanzania yuko hivo, hawa unaojibizana nao hawako hivyo! That's a price of theft! Wakenya mna hali mbaya, tukiamua kuwa hard na nyie, hata hivi vibarua mnavyopata kwa kuhonga kupata work permit hamtapata! Huwa nakwenda kwenye Joints fulani fulani, nawaona ndugu zako, ukitaka kuwajua ni Kiswahili chao, they r even spoiling our swahili. Bia mengine yanasema eti ni mbia, coca cola yanasema eti ni gogo gola! Mkanda mnasema mshipi, kudanganya ni kuhadaa na kupiga kelele ni kupiga ndulu! Mmejenga kinchi chenu kwa vyanzo vya fedha mnazopora kwetu. Mna bahati tuna mafigure head ya watawala, mngeonja joto la jiwe, ila yamekiwsha! Yameamua kujenga kwetu eti chancery expensive kuliko zote yalizowahi kujenga kokote duniani, nikamsikia JK naye anasema eti tutajenga even more expensive kwao, hatuhitaji! We have other priorities, lengo siyo kushindana kujenga balozi, zijengwe kulingana na mahitaji u r less important to us, let's hope alikuwa anawapiga changa la macho. Mnajikomba komba komba, mnajileta leta tu, nawashauri mje kistaarabu, haya mambo yenu ya kulazimisha, yatawatokea puani!. Smatta, kuna ndugu yako anasema eti our soldiers shoot at sight illegal immigrants from each country! Hizo ndiyo busara zenu siyo? Assume we implement that kenyan wisdom, unadhani wapi wengi watakufa! Nyie solution huwa ni kuua tu, kama mlivyofanya kwenye uchaguzi! Mi nasema hivi, yawepo mahusiano ya ujirani mwema tu! Habari hizi za kuungana, si kipaumbele kwetu kwa sasa hivi! Smatta, mwenzako mwingine anatuombea eti mabalaa sisi! eti nchi yetu iungue mpaka majivu Dua za kuku hizo, sasa mtaiba wapi tukiwa majivu? Mabalaa yenu ni mengi kuliko eytu mpaka sasa hivi!
 
Wewe Smatta na Bad Seed, angalia sana! Tamaa iliua fisi, mnataka vyetu bure bure? Mmeitubia muda mrefu nyie, miaka yote hiyo mmetumia hizo 20km bure mkiziita no man's land, Samaki mmeiba mmemaliza hamtosheki, Mabenki mmeiba, Ng'ombe mmeiba Mara huko, hivi mwataka nini? U r not our friends, hayo yote mliyofanya kwa hila did not amuse us, that's why we don't trust u. And you managed to do it, kwa sababu ya watawala ambao nao walikuwa busy wanatuibia, some of our leaders, at different times were busy looting our govt coffers, except my lovely Mwalimu, they aren't any different from you. Lakini si kila mtanzania yuko hivo, hawa unaojibizana nao hawako hivyo! That's a price of theft! Wakenya mna hali mbaya, tukiamua kuwa hard na nyie, hata hivi vibarua mnavyopata kwa kuhonga kupata work permit hamtapata! Huwa nakwenda kwenye Joints fulani fulani, nawaona ndugu zako, ukitaka kuwajua ni Kiswahili chao, they r even spoiling our swahili. Bia mengine yanasema eti ni mbia, coca cola yanasema eti ni gogo gola! Mkanda mnasema mshipi, kudanganya ni kuhadaa na kupiga kelele ni kupiga ndulu! Mmejenga kinchi chenu kwa vyanzo vya fedha mnazopora kwetu. Mna bahati tuna mafigure head ya watawala, mngeonja joto la jiwe, ila yamekiwsha! Yameamua kujenga kwetu eti chancery expensive kuliko zote yalizowahi kujenga kokote duniani, nikamsikia JK naye anasema eti tutajenga even more expensive kwao, hatuhitaji! We have other priorities, lengo siyo kushindana kujenga balozi, zijengwe kulingana na mahitaji u r less important to us, let's hope alikuwa anawapiga changa la macho. Mnajikomba komba komba, mnajileta leta tu, nawashauri mje kistaarabu, haya mambo yenu ya kulazimisha, yatawatokea puani!. Smatta, kuna ndugu yako anasema eti our soldiers shoot at sight illegal immigrants from each country! Hizo ndiyo busara zenu siyo? Assume we implement that kenyan wisdom, unadhani wapi wengi watakufa! Nyie solution huwa ni kuua tu, kama mlivyofanya kwenye uchaguzi! Mi nasema hivi, yawepo mahusiano ya ujirani mwema tu! Habari hizi za kuungana, si kipaumbele kwetu kwa sasa hivi! Smatta, mwenzako mwingine anatuombea eti mabalaa sisi! eti nchi yetu iungue mpaka majivu Dua za kuku hizo, sasa mtaiba wapi tukiwa majivu? Mabalaa yenu ni mengi kuliko eytu mpaka sasa hivi!

Damas Kanyabwoya,

What it do homeboy, its a slow day, kinda bored so I thought i'd pull some stunts on y'all, pulling your legs and stuff nothing serious, I was just joking, gauging your reaction to stuff. I respect you guys because of the sentiments you have for your country, thats great, I also love my country to death, can die for mama land so i understand when you become all sentimental and angry when I take a shot at TZ.. Just know that I dont mean it from my heart, I cant bite the hand that feeds me, no.. Where will i spend my christmas holidays if Bongo will burn to a shell? Where will I meet my Pare clande if we are blocked from entering TZ?.. so to me I have an attachment to Tanzania, its ma second home, I simply luv it.

So take it easy, ama be dropping around Dar on Wed the 23rd, i'll Pm you where I'll be staying, so if you feel like dropping by we spend some of this Mullah on women and alchohol, then you are more than welcomed. If you want to talk politics and Business( I prove to you that am a legitimate Business Man).......Dont take offense on ma posts, lets welcome the New Year in peace.

Smatta.
 
Damas Kanyabwoya,

What it do homeboy, its a slow day, kinda bored so I thought i'd pull some stunts on y'all, pulling your legs and stuff nothing serious, I was just joking, gauging your reaction to stuff. I respect you guys because of the sentiments you have for your country, thats great, I also love my country to death, can die for mama land so i understand when you become all sentimental and angry when I take a shot at TZ.. Just know that I dont mean it from my heart, I cant bite the hand that feeds me, no.. Where will i spend my christmas holidays if Bongo will burn to a shell? Where will I meet my Pare clande if we are blocked from entering TZ?.. so to me I have an attachment to Tanzania, its ma second home, I simply luv it.

So take it easy, ama be dropping around Dar on Wed the 23rd, i'll Pm you where I'll be staying, so if you feel like dropping by we spend some of this Mullah on women and alchohol, then you are more than welcomed. If you want to talk politics and Business( I prove to you that am a legitimate Business Man).......Dont take offense on ma posts, lets welcome the New Year in peace.

Smatta.
If you love your country nobody has abused your freedom to love your country we simply tried to look at this never ending border disputes that country of your is prone of!

An arrogant man like you coming here and abuse this forum will be paid back with his arrogance! If you think you are smart as all Kenyans think go ahead with your bragging here and we will simply reject your pompousness with facts! When you guys were burning in the aftermaths of your last general election do you know where was Moi residing in those three months?

In Arusha in a 5 stars hotel (seem a refuge camp :confused:)and not in the Rift valley and none of his eyes witness anything as those slaughterings and a fool you coming here bragging you are better off as if we havent been in Kenya! The same Moi today is opposing The Mau Forest Initiatives cause of the massive land he acquired illegal during his regime! that's a goon attitude! learn that and contribute constructively and not you and me politics cause we are all the same whether economically or from suffering from corruption syndrome and none is better off! You hard your shares as a country with Western First Priority so did Uganda had and now it is our turn after the socialism that lagged us behind! Relax and sit back and abserve us lambusting our corrupt leaders!
 
If you love your country nobody has abused your freedom to love your country we simply tried to look at this never ending border disputes that country of your is prone of!

An arrogant man like you coming here and abuse this forum will be paid back with his arrogance! If you think you are smart as all Kenyans think go ahead with your bragging here and we will simply reject your pompousness with facts! When you guys were burning in the aftermaths of your last general election do you know where was Moi residing in those three months?

In Arusha in a 5 stars hotel (seem a refuge camp :confused:)and not in the Rift valley and none of his eyes witness anything as those slaughterings and a fool you coming here bragging you are better off as if we havent been in Kenya! The same Moi today is opposing The Mau Forest Initiatives cause of the massive land he acquired illegal during his regime! that's a goon attitude! learn that and contribute constructively and not you and me politics cause we are all the same whether economically or from suffering from corruption syndrome and none is better off! You hard your shares as a country with Western First Priority so did Uganda had and now it is our turn after the socialism that lagged us behind! Relax and sit back and abserve us lambusting our corrupt leaders!


cant decipher what this coon is saying, but just for the record, just to get ish straight, am not arrogant, just because I dont share your school of thought doesnt make me arrogant, sawa?

Na hiyo pumba umeandika kuhusu Moi is just crap, what has Moi got to do with anything, let the geezer rest in peace, and fyi its not only the politicians that fled when there was chaos, everyone worth his shilling was flocking to TZ, we were sipping beer while catching the news in tanzania, that simply shows how bad the refugee situation will be if (that will never happen) Kenya crumbles. THATS ARROGANCE RIGHT THERE
 
cant decipher what this coon is saying, but just for the record, just to get ish straight, am not arrogant, just because I dont share your school of thought doesnt make me arrogant, sawa?

Na hiyo pumba umeandika kuhusu Moi is just crap, what has Moi got to do with anything, let the geezer rest in peace, and fyi its not only the politicians that fled when there was chaos, everyone worth his shilling was flocking to TZ, we were sipping beer while catching the news in tanzania, that simply shows how bad the refugee situation will be if (that will never happen) Kenya crumbles. THATS ARROGANCE RIGHT THERE
Moi is the cause of this stollen mind of yours! Moi fed you with this arrogance you are potraying right here! Through his propaganda he used to say ati mko better zaidi ya Wengine and you know what todate kuna viatu kama wewe wanakuja na dharau humu kwenye forum! If you are that better as a country unafanya nini Tanzania? Si uende Naiii ukafanye kazi with that prosporous economy of yours instead of making noises here?
 
Moi is the cause of this stollen mind of yours! Moi fed you with this arrogance you are potraying right here! Through his propaganda he used to say ati mko better zaidi ya Wengine and you know what todate kuna viatu kama wewe wanakuja na dharau humu kwenye forum! If you are that better as a country unafanya nini Tanzania? Si uende Naiii ukafanye kazi with that prosporous economy of yours instead of making noises here?

i thought u were the learned type but you must be a dumbass to ask that question.

smatta will stay right there make money off your country and take it back to the kenya and invest it there. that is how smatta is making kenya a better economy bringing money back to his country.
 
i thought u were the learned type but you must be a dumbass to ask that question.

smatta will stay right there make money off your country and take it back to the kenya and invest it there. that is how smatta is making kenya a better economy bringing money back to his country.
Then your politicians will seep it away through pocketing your tax or bogus anglo leasing deals and for sure you will defend them since they belong to your tribe (as they will be the first to hold rallies to express their grievances in their constituents)! How smart you are as a Kenyan! Must be a "Ndaring Kikuyu"! A lame and arrogant you just like all your people!
 
Then your politicians will seep it away through pocketing your tax or bogus anglo leasing deals and for sure you will defend them since they belong to your tribe (as they will be the first to hold rallies to express their grievances in their constituents)! How smart you are as a Kenyan! Must be a "Ndaring Kikuyu"! A lame and arrogant you just like all your people!

Seems like you have alot of time in your hands to waste on other countries internal affairs, the difference between me and you fruits is that we will always stay winning and you will always stay losin. we are a very poor country but we are better off in many aspects than you. you always talk about our slums, but when i drive in the two countries, i think kenya is way ahead of TZ, i think you shld concentrate in educating your people other than just letting your young concentrate in Bongo fleva.
 
Seems like you have alot of time in your hands to waste on other countries internal affairs, the difference between me and you fruits is that we will always stay winning and you will always stay losin. we are a very poor country but we are better off in many aspects than you. you always talk about our slums, but when i drive in the two countries, i think kenya is way ahead of TZ, i think you shld concentrate in educating your people other than just letting your young concentrate in Bongo fleva.

You got it right, Smatta! Spot on! The video clip below tells everything about the so called 'educated Kenyans'!!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swEjVu7KFeA[/ame]
 
Spin DR unataka niweke ile video yangu ya albinos? this is Africa, you aint better and you know that, but instead of acknowledging this you keep burrying your head in the sand like the proverbial ostrich, oblivious of all the problems surrounding you.
 
Seems like you have alot of time in your hands to waste on other countries internal affairs, the difference between me and you fruits is that we will always stay winning and you will always stay losin. we are a very poor country but we are better off in many aspects than you. you always talk about our slums, but when i drive in the two countries, i think kenya is way ahead of TZ, i think you shld concentrate in educating your people other than just letting your young concentrate in Bongo fleva.
As the way you have successfully educated your young people (by the way they dance to the rythm and beats of Bongoflava and not Bongofleva)! Why dont you have advanced level education in that lovely country of yours? do you know when any Kenyan goes to a uni. for a bachelor level can not be admitted! He/she has to take a year for a Pre uni studies! so is that a quality you are talking about? Where is the betterness in that! taking a shortcut in solving issues! By the way, Tanzania has slums but not of the scale of Mathare and Kibera and there is nothing Tanzania can be proud of, cause We acknowledge we are no better and we strive to reach there! And for your information a Tanzanian daughter (Prof. Tibaijuka (UN habitat chief)) is upgrading your slums and you are here shiting your nonsense (ati Kenyans are smart!!) instead of bowing to Tanzania ! Na uende ulale mzee!
 
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