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Hatimaye Wabunge Wafanya Kweli: Mkapa & Karamagi Nje!

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Enigma, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. Enigma

    Enigma Senior Member

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    Habari zinazomiminika sasa hivi zinasema kuwa hoja ya kuupitia mkataba wa TICTS imepita na sasa utaangaliwa. Bado details zinamiminika, hoja hiyo imepita dakika chache zilizopita. Nzi azungukaye katika bunge hilo anasema Karamagi (nasikia ni mmiliki au ana ubia wa TICTS) alijiuma uma...
     
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    Mwiba JF-Expert Member

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    Raisi ajiuzulu kwani maji yeshazidi unga hivyo hakuna tena mikate.
     
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    Tuandamane JF-Expert Member

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    Bravo.... na sasahivi hoja iliopo ni yanyumba za serikali zilizouzwa...sorry walizojigawia... mwakahuu moto utawaunguza kila kona
     
  4. Zee la shamba

    Zee la shamba Member

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    Huu ni mwaka wa shetani kwa mafisadi, watakiona kilichomtoa nyoka pangoni. Hakuna kulala mpaka kieleweke.
     
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    Malila JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa wale tulioona kupitia luninga,Nazir kasema hivi,yeye ni mwenyekiti wa kampuni hiyo,na ana hisa 30 ktk wale wanaounda hiyo kampuni husika.Ndugu zangu shime hakuna kulala mpaka nchi isafishike.
     
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    Mtanzania JF-Expert Member

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    Karamangi mpaka atajilaumu kwanini aliingia siasa.
     
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    PakaShume Member

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    Wanasema "Hakuna Chanzo, Kisichokua na Mwisho" Wakumshukuru ni JK ameona Mafisadi na Ufisadi umefikia mwisho wake!

    Endelea na Ujasiri wako - Ridhia mabadiliko yaendelee, japokuwa wengi wa mafisadi ni wenzio; ila tukumbuke - Taifa ni letu wote!
     
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    DAR si LAMU JF-Expert Member

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    ..huu ni mwaka wa uasi!

    ..katika hali ya kawaida haya yasingeweza tokea.
     
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    Jamco_Za JF-Expert Member

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    Ahasante M/mungu kwa mwaka huu, JK kaza buti naona safari ya ndege yetu karibu itaanza, karamagi moto unawaka sasa jiandae kutueleza ukweli mkataba uliongezwaje wakati hakuna ufanisi, kwa nini uliongezwa wakati muda wa mkataba wa kwanza haujaisha.
     
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    Malila JF-Expert Member

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    kama sijakosea Dr Slaa amesoma barua toka ofisi kubwa kabisa ya serikali,kipengere muhimu ni tarehe ya kuongezwa mkataba huo,ni tarehe ambayo bunge letu lilikwisha vunjwa mwezi october 2005. Nionavyo mimi walichukua vijisenti vya kutosha toka TICTS ili wafanyie kampeni za nyumba kwa nyumba kwa malipo ya TICTS kupewa miaka 20 ya mkataba.Wenye uwezo wa kupata barua ile watuletee hapa JF ili tuisome,jinsi ambavyo Mramba aliiandika.Barua hiyo anayo Mheshimiwa Dr Slaa,ameisoma bungeni leo.
     
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    Ukisoma mwanahalisi ya wiki hii imeonyesha wazi kwamba Mkapa ndiye alihusika moja kwa moja na kuongezwa kwa mkataba huo wa kiuharamia.Yaani hawa mabwana wanajichulia tu madaraka kana kwamba nchi hii haiongozwi na sheria.Suala la TICTS ni kiini macho tu kwani kama TPA wataendelea na shughuli za makontena ni nini kitaharibika.Ubinafsi tu wa watu wachache wakaamua kuchukua mali za umma ili wafaidike wao kama wao na hapo utaifa haupo tena.

    Miongoni mwa Staff wa TICTS yumo mtoto wa KARAMAGI.Mkataba wa TICTS uvunjwe na kurudishwa kwa TPA,hapo mzozo utakua umekwisha.
     
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    Bunge: Revoke Ticts contract

    By Damas Kanyabwoya and Polycarp Machira
    THE CITIZEN

    Parliament yesterday unanimously voted for termination of the controversial Tanzania International Containers Terminals Services (Ticts) contract.

    MPs urged the Government to terminate with immediate effects the dubious extension of contract during the by the Third Phase regime.

    Earlier, tabling a private motion on poor performance of Ticts, Mr Godfrey Zambi (Mbozi East-CCM) said the original 10-year contract should also be reviewed so that all controversial clauses that were contrary to national interests were rectified.

    "Also once the original ten-year contract expires, there should be no extension or signing of a new contract with Ticts unless the Public Procurement Act No.21 of 2004 is adhered to," he said.

    Mr Zambi said he had decided to table the private motion due to the poor performance of Ticts which was reflected in container congestion at the Dar es Salaam port. This had resulted in many complaints from businessmen, legislators and the public.

    He said the contract extension during the Third Phase government of former President Benjamin Mkapa when 15 years were added to the agreement even before it had expired was illegal as it contravened the Public Procurement Act 2004.

    The container terminal at the Dar es Salaam port was leased in 2000 by the Government to the International Container Terminal Limited (ICTL) of Manila. The 10-year contract was to end in 2010.

    However, ICTL sold its shares to Ticts that is 70 per cent owned by Hutchison Port Holdings (HPH) of Hong Kong and 30 per cent by Habours Investment Limited (HIL) of Tanzania.

    In 2005, the Government extended the contract by another 15 years.

    Mr Zambi said the Ticts contract showed that no other investor would be allowed to enter the business unless the former can handle 650,000 containers per year.

    He also said Ticts says it has invested $6 million in equipment which is contrary to $10 million agreed.

    Mr Zambi said the royalty that Ticts pays is too little compared to the profits it gets which has been increasing from Sh8.1 billion in 2001 to Sh30.7 billion in 2006 and Sh28.5 billion in 2007. In 2007 Ticts paid 5.7 billion similar to 20 per cent.

    But Karatu MP Dr Willibrod Slaa (Chadema) told Parliament that it was time the contract was revoked.

    He said that in a letter written on September 6, 2005, the then minister for Finance Basil Mramba in liaison with the then President Benjamin Mkapa instructed that the contract be extended for 25 years.

    Let me inform you that the president has instructed that Tanzania Communication Regulatory Authority (TCRA) that the contract be extended, reads part of the letter.

    Dr Slaa further alleged that both President Mkapa and Mr Mramba ordered that Ticts be given gate number eight and the nearby land at the Dar es Salaam port for its operations. All these he said were signs of graft.

    But Bukoba Rural MP, Mr Nazir Karamagi, who is also chairman of Ticts, opposed the motion, saying the firm had overseen an increase in the number of containers handles, thus increasing government revenues.

    He said the Dar es Salaam port used to receive only 100,000 containers before the investors took over.

    The former minister said there was a target to reach at least 233,000 containers at the port by 2010, while by 2004; it had reached a capacity of 256,000 containers.

    Mr Karamagi told the parliament that the decision to extend the contract was reached by the whole cabinet and not Mr Mramba and Mr Mkapa alone, an argument that Anna Abdallah challenged, calling on the MP to show any written evidence to substantiate his remarks.

    At this point the Speaker ordered Mr Karamagi to furnish the House with a written document to prove the allegations or the regulations governing any wrong information or deceiving the parliament will be followed to the letter.
     
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    Landmark decisions

    HUNTING BLOCKS-BY MZINDAKAYA
    Landmark decisions

    By The Citizen Team

    MPs turned the heat on the Government in Parliament yesterday, resolving that TICTS contract extension be scrapped and the railway concession deal reviewed as part of wide-ranging measures to curb the looting of public resources.

    A highly charged House condemned current and past high-level corruption, during debate on four private motions.

    It was another historic day as Speaker Samuel Sitta allowed the members to dissect the deals sealed during the Benjamin Mkapa administration and the current government, and which have cost the country billions of shillings.

    Kwela MP Chrissant Mzindakaya set the ball rolling by moving his private member's motion, detailing how the lucrative foreign-dominated hunting sector was not benefiting Tanzanians.

    He said that from professional and tourist hunting alone, the Government losses about Sh76.8 billion ($60 million) in low fees paid by the operators and corruption by wildlife officials.

    In scenes reminiscent of the February session during which a report tabled by the Parliamentary Select Committee on the Richmond Company scandal led to the resignation of Mr Edward Lowassa as Prime Minister alongside Cabinet minister Nizar Karamagi and Ibrahim Msabaha, the MPs looked determined to get to the bottom of the mega scandals.

    They fiercely debated the private members motions on the hunting industry, and Tanzania Railways Limited (TRL) in the morning session, and concluded in the evening with the Tanzania International Containers Terminal (TICTS) and the controversial sale of government houses.

    The MPs said the public servants who were allocated the houses but have not completed paying for them should clear the balances or have them repossessed.
    Some 7,921 houses were sold in 2002 for Sh59.1 billion, but only 29.1 billion has been paid while more than half (Sh30.4 billion) has not been paid.

    Moving the motion on the sale of the houses, CCM lawmaker Aloyce Kimario said it was a pity that the decision had been made without first building others.
    "It was as if the third phase government thought it was going to be the last government in this country. Those houses were a national resource and the property of all Tanzanians not just the few civil servants, he said.

    Apparently alarmed by the mega scandals-Richmond, EPA, Twin Towers, Meremeta Gold, which together have cost the taxpayers about Sh1.25 trillion ($1billion), the angry MPs told all the corrupt leaders and other looters to repent.

    They also urged the Government to immediately suspend the controversial TICTS contract, which gave the latter an extension to 2015 instead of the original expiry period scheduled in 2010.

    Parliament was stunned to hear that the Indian firm, RITES, which was awarded a tender to manage Tanzania Railways Corporation, borrowed $77 million to finance the project but only 10per cent of the money had been invested in the project.

    In the evening sitting, the MPs debated TICTS, which was dubiously given an extension to run the container section at Dar es Salaam Port, contrary to the National Procurement Act of 2004.

    But drama unfolded in the House, when one of the TICTS shareholders, former minister Karamagi rose to defend the company, arguing that the extension was approved by the Cabinet in June 2005.

    Mr Karamagi, who resigned this year after being implicated in Richmond scandal, was told by Speaker Sitta to declare his interest first, as required by the House's standing orders.

    I am the chairman of TICTS and also the owner of one of the companies that partnered with an international firm to run this business, Mr Karamagi told the attentive House in responding to Speaker's order.

    And Speaker Sitta responded: You may now continue, Honourable Karamagi.

    Mr Karamagi said his company won the tender, denying any wrongdoing, but his efforts came to nought as the majority of MPs from his own party, CCM, said the deal was illegal and should be nullified.

    Ms Anna Abdullah of CCM demanded to know whether Mr Karamagi had any evidence to prove before Parliament that the Cabinet approved the dubious extension.

    Following the situation, Mr Karamagi was ordered to present his evidence today before 12pm, whereby failure to that he would taken to task for issuing false statements in the parliament.
     
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    Mama JF-Expert Member

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    At last things are unfolding and the seemed impossible are now possible. This was one of the major loophole in 'evaporation' of the goverment income. Congrats to the members of parliament and may this sprit be also for other contradictory contracts IPTL, RDL and many others.

    Fisadi karamagi hiyo ndio kwanza simama dede, bado kitakuchanganyia soon.
     
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    Ufunuo wa Yohana JF-Expert Member

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    Yes ni lazima ufutwe. Kabla miaka 10 ya mwanzo haijaisha unaongeza tena 15 huu ni ufisadi wa hali ya juu sana. Halafu jamaa hana hata aibu bado anautetea bungeni...Shame to you Kara...Ebbo
     
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    LeoKweli JF-Expert Member

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    No wonder Hawa jamaa, 1 Million USD wanaita vijisenti, Kumbe asiliamia 30% ya profit ya TITCS ni ya karumangi duuuuuuu, Kwanini wasiwe na kibuli....

    Kila ukigusa mramba,Mkapa.....Hwakosekani hawa waume wenza sijui wanabiloni ngapi,

    Nadhani kunahaja ya TIC kujaribu kuwatongoza ili wainvest Tanzania and in people
     
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    Single D JF-Expert Member

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    Miongoni mwa Staff wa TICTS yumo mtoto wa KARAMAGI.Mkataba wa TICTS uvunjwe na kurudishwa kwa TPA,hapo mzozo utakua umekwisha.[/QUOTE]

    Hapo patamu kweli.Unamwondoa samaki majini unamweka nchi kavu aogolee.
    Bravo wabunge wenye uchungu na nji hii
     
  18. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    hongera bla bla bla.. sitisheni mkataba wa Kiwira na Dowans kwanza!!
     
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    asante bunge. now you are doing what you were elected for.

    mwaka wa shetani kwa mafisadi huu, wataondoka wengi. na JK aendelee kujifanya hivyo hivyo zuzu kumbe anataka wapinzani waonyeshewe vidole kuwaondoa mafisadi wakati yeye anachekelea
     
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    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    they needed to start somewhere, wabunge kuanzia hapo siyo mbaya. ila tunataka maendeleo kuona nini kitafuatia mkataba huo.
     
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