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Hatimaye CHADEMA wamefanikiwa kusitisha muswada wa kubadili katiba 2011

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Quinty, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Quinty

    Quinty JF-Expert Member

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    Baada ya harakati za uhakika za Wanachadema na wananchi wenye mapenzi mema kuhakikisha Muswada wa kubadili katiba haupiti zimezaa matunda baada ya muswada huo kusitishwa kutoa muda wakuujadili na kuufanyia marekebisho. Ifuatayo ni taarifa rasmi

    The Citizen Reporter
    Dodoma. The Constitution Reform Bill, which has sparked heated arguments at several public forums, will not be debated in Parliament, as had been expected, with information emerging that it is to be sent back to the government for redrafting.A highly placed source within the National Assembly, who sought anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, told The Citizen yesterday that the Bill, over which rival political groups have clashed in the past one week or so, would not be tabled for a vote in august House.

    Called ‘The Review of Constitution Bill 2011’, it had been scheduled for a second reading on Monday, where MPs would have voted to accept and amend it, or reject it altogether.

    However, following the Bill’s widespread criticism on the Mainland and in Zanzibar during open forums to debate it, the source said, the parliamentary committee on House Standing Orders chaired by the Speaker, Ms Anne Makinda, would today endorse the decision to send it back for redrafting.

    The Bunge official admitted that the Bill would be deferred to give room for improvement. He, however, said the proposed constitution law would need a major rewrite to incorporate the issues that have emerged.Last evening, members of the House committee on the Constitution, legal and public administration, were holed up in a lengthy meeting for the second day running to come up with the final and binding decision.

    The committee chairperson, Ms Pindi Chana, said in a telephone interview from Dodoma that the committee was reviewing the inputs of members of the public and organisations at various forums in Dar es Salaam, Zanzibar and Dodoma.“We will submit our resolutions to the relevant authorities for the final decision next week,” she said, adding that she could not give a clear cut answer as to whether the Bill would be withdrawn because their meeting was expected to run late into the night.

    Earlier, a member of the committee, Singida East MP Tundu Lissu, told The Citizen that they had hit a deadlock on Wednesday, after several MPs, mostly from the ruling Chama Cha Mapinduzi (CCM), appeared to oppose a move to shelve the Bill.

    “We had a very long meeting but we didn’t reach a consensus. It’s my hope today that our advice to reject the Bill will be accepted,” the Chadema MP said. According to him, it would be difficult for Parliament and the government to “proceed with the Bill as it is”.

    Earlier, there were signs of the government yielding, with Prime Minister Mizengo Pinda and the minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs, Ms Celina Kombani, both hinting at a possible compromise over the contentious aspects of the Bill that could have set the constitutional review process rolling.

    Yesterday, during the question and answer session in Parliament, Mr Pinda said the government would wait and act on the advice of Parliament on the way forward. The PM was responding to the Leader of the Official Opposition, Mr Freeman Mbowe (Chadema-Hai), who wanted to know if the government would withdraw the Bill to allow for more dialogue and consensus building.

    “I don’t have any direct answers right now but as government, we shall be considerate and take advice responsibly since the Bill is for the public good,” said Mr Pinda. He added: “Madam Speaker, I know Mbowe wants to force me to agree on shelving the Bill and I would also like to ease the tension building among wananchi, as noted by another MP. We need to have a good constitution with good contributions from all wananchi.”

    The Speaker intervened, saying the matter has been presented to her office and that experts were trying to sort it out. For her part, Ms Kombani said she was not aware of the move to shelve the constitution review Bill, but maintained that the decision lay with Parliament, as the document’s custodian.“Our aim is to involve the people. The parliamentary committee has collected views from the public hearings that will help to enrich the Bill,” the minister said.

    Following the tabling of the Bill more than a week ago, it has generated interest, mostly criticism over some of its provisions, as the country searches for a smooth constitutional review launch pad. Critics argue that the Bill has given excessive powers to the President to solely determine the process, while locking out many other players, including political parties, civil society and representatives of other social groups.

    They have also bitterly opposed a provision in the Bill to blacklist for debate, the union between Tanganyika and Zanzibar, and the presidency, while some people, including the Zanzibar attorney general, have questioned the legality of letting Parliament review the Constitution.

    Other ministers in the Isles’ government of national unity between CCM and CUF, also complained they were not consulted when the Bill was being drafted. It was the Zanzibari officials who led a charged public rejection of the Bill early this week by the people, who in a fit of anger tore and burned copies of the document.

    Some MPs and other people have also demanded that the Bill be published in Kiswahili to enable more ordinary people to read and understand it.
     
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    Khakha JF-Expert Member

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    Bravo wadau wote hakuna kulala hadi kieleweke. wabunge vilaza wa ccm walitaka kutuharibia nchi yetu.
     
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    Jamaa wametuletea mswada wa kulinda mafisadi na siyo kwa ajili ya wananchi. Lazima tuendeleze mapambano. CCM walikubali wao ni nyoka ndio maana walisema wamejivua gamba. Ninachojua mimi, Hata kama Nyoka amejivua gamba, bado sumu yake ipo pale pale. Cha kufanya ni kuendelea kumtafuta huyu nyoka-CCM na tumponde kichwa chake kwa NYUNDO yao na kumkata kwa JEMBE lao !

     
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    Kweli nyoka nyoka tu hata akiwa mdogo sumu pale pale...so cha muhimu ni kumponda kichwa afe kabisa. Hii si mbali 2015 lazima tuliue hili joka
     
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    huu ni muda wa kutetea haki tusikubali kuongozwa na wabunge wasio na upeo pamoja na uruma kwa wapiga kura wao, nguvu ya umaaa pamoja tuwaondoe wote 2015, si mbali tutafika.
     
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    Heko chadema........tuko juuuuuuu juuu saaana
     
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    Hapa ni kuwatoa kwa nguvu tu, aibu wataipata kama waking'ang'ania kama ya Gabo na wenzake
     
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    Quinty JF-Expert Member

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    Mapinduzi taratibu mpaka kieleweke naona wanajidai hawatusikii kumbe hatuwapi usingizi...CDM si chama cha mchezo mchezo kabisa
     
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    Clejah Member

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    Kuna mahali nilisoma eti Shitambala alisema kuwa mswada wa katiba hauna tatizo! Angekuwa karibu ningemtwanga.

    Hakuna kulala. Wamekubali kusitisha mswada wa katiba ... Sawa mapambano yanaendelea.

    Mfumuko wa bei nao tukomae nao.
     
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    kamimbi Senior Member

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    Hii ndo haki, lakini ndo kusema hawakuja kama haitokubalika kirahisi, yaani wanadhani watz wote ni mazuzu, mh! haya madhalau.
     
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    Nape Nepi unaonaeeeeee.
     
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    Quinty JF-Expert Member

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    Huyo ndo pumba kabisa nilimsikia juzi BBC anaeleza umuhimu wa chama kufanya mabadiliko na jinsi gani atavyobadilisha chama. Hii ndo itawatafuna mpaka wapotee kabisa.
     
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    good job frontliners tuko pamoja na vita ndo inaanzal
     
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    Umesema vema.
     
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    Watawale kutokea ikulu,cdm itatawala kutokea kwa wananchi. Safi sana!
     
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    Ronal Reagan JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa wapenda nchi wote na Chadema,

    Hongera nyingi saana! Bravos! Kudos! Toe-DAH rah-BAW!!!
     
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    Big Up !!!CDM!!!
     
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    Huwa napenda sana kusoma post za mda mrefu...
     
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    Namkumbuka sana maneno ya Mh Tundu Lissu ambayo alisema Bungeni katika kadhia hii, LAKIN JUZI IJUMAA ALIPIGA KANZU NZITO NA KOFIA NA KUTINGA BUNGENI.

    ``Mheshimiwa Spika, mapendekezo ya Rasimu ya Muswada hayakubaliki kwa sababu yanaweka mchakato wa Katiba Mpya kwenye huruma na/au fadhila ya Rais wa Zanzibar na siasa za Zanzibar kwa ujumla. Kwa mapendekezo haya, Rais wa Zanzibar asipokubaliana na jambo lolote linalohitaji ridhaa yake basi mchakato mzima utasimama au kusitishwa. Aidha, endapo katika kura ya maoni inayopendekezwa, theluthi mbili ya Wazanzibari hawatakubaliana na Katiba Mpya basi Katiba hiyo haitapitishwa hata kama inakubaliwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na wananchi wa Tanzania Bara.

    Mustakbala wa taifa letu hauwezi kuwekwa tena rehani kwenye siasa za Zanzibar na kwenye matakwa ya Wazanzibari kwa kiasi hicho. Kuhusiana na jambo hili, Kambi Rasmi ya Upinzani inapendekeza kwamba Rais wa Zanzibar ahusishwe tu katika masuala ya kikatiba ambayo ni ya Muungano tu. Nje ya masuala hayo, Rais wa Zanzibar hana sababu yoyote ya kuhusishwa na mchakato wa kikatiba unaohusu mambo ya Tanzania Bara."

    Aidha, wajumbe wa Tume ya Mapitio ya Katiba ambao watatoka Zanzibar wahusike tu katika mchakato wa masuala ya kikatiba ambayo ni ya Muungano tu. Vile vile, Kambi Rasmi ya Upinzani Bungeni inapendekeza wananchi wa Zanzibar washiriki katika kura ya maoni inayohusu mfumo mpya wa Muungano tu. Hii ndio kusema kwamba, kama vile ambavyo viongozi, wawakilishi na wananchi wa Tanzania Bara hawajashirikishwa katika mchakato wa kikatiba wa Zanzibar kwa sababu ulihusu mambo yasiyokuwa ya Muungano, vivyo hivyo viongozi, wawakilishi na wananchi wa Zanzibar wasishiriki katika mchakato wa kikatiba wa mambo yasiyokuwa ya kikatiba kwa upande wa Tanzania Bara.``
     
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    wewe na rema mnapishana nini. Mnawaza kwenda mombasa tu. Inawezekana mnawashwa
     
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