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Haja Ya Kuwepo Wawakilishi Wa Zanzibar Kwenye Balozi..

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Steve Dii, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. Steve Dii

    Steve Dii JF-Expert Member

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    Wana JF, je kuna haja ya kuwepo wawakilishi wa Serikali ya Mapinduzi Zanzibar kwenye balozi zetu nje ya nchi? Naomba tujadiliane kama ilivyo jadi yetu hapa.

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    --Miye nilijua kutokana na kiwango cha utalii visiwani ningelitegemea hawa wawakilishi wapo tayari, na naona kuna haja kubwa ya wawakilishi kutoka Zanzibar kuwepo, ila wawe wataalam wa mambo yao na isitokee likawa jambo la uwakilishi tu kwa nia ya kujaza nafasi..


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  2. Kitila Mkumbo

    Kitila Mkumbo Verified User

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    Ndio sisi wengine tunaamini kwenye muungano wenye serikali tatu.
     
  3. Steve Dii

    Steve Dii JF-Expert Member

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    Kitila, naomba ufafanue zaidi, kwa ajili ya uelewa wa wengi ambao hatujui haya mambo kiundani, ahsante.


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  4. Rufiji

    Rufiji JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa nini kila siku lazima Zanzibar waje na jambo jipya ? Ni kitu gani special kitachohitaji mzanzibar kukizungumzia kuhusu zanzibar . Mimi naamini ya kuwa maofisa wabalozi wanachohitaji ni proper training ya kuweza kulitangaza taifa letu kikamilifu ! Na ikiwezekana serikali iwape tour kwenye vivutio vyetu vya kitalii.

    The point sio mtu lazima atoke zanzibar au atoke bara , bali tunahitaji marketer mzuri atakayeweza kusell product yetu " utalii" Mimi nimekaa Tanzania bara miaka yote lakini ukiniambia nizungumzie mbuga za selous ziwezi kwa sababu sijafika huko . Kitu ninachojiuliza jee tukiruhusu hawa wanzanzibar waitangaze zanzibar tutegemee nini huko mbeleni ? Nina hakika watasema ya kuwa unguja inatakiwa itangazwe na waunguja ....kwa hiyo waunguja wawe na mtu wao ! Huu ni ujinga ni lazima hawa wawakilishi watambue serikali aioperate kwa kuangalia sura au rangi ya mtu bali kwa kuangalia masuala ya taifa.
     
  5. Kibunango

    Kibunango JF-Expert Member

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    Kuwepo kwa wawakilishi wa Zenj katika Balozi, hakumaanishi kuwepo kwa serikali tatu.
     
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    MzalendoHalisi JF-Expert Member

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    Je sasa hawapo?
     
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    mwenekapufi Member

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    Hawa wazenj ni walalamishi sana. Kwani hao mabalozi 5 hawatoshi kuwawakilisha? Maana ukichukulia population yao ni ndogo kwa ratio labda watakuwa over representing. Wanadekezwa sana.Wapige kitabu kwanza.
     
  8. Kitila Mkumbo

    Kitila Mkumbo Verified User

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    Walalamisha au wadadisi wa haki na maslahi yao? Kwa ujinga wangu, wanzibari wanatuzidi sana sisi wa bara kwa habari ya uelewa wa kisiasa.
     
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    JokaKuu Platinum Member

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    Kitila,
    nakuunga mkono...watanganyika hawadadisi kabisa haki zao ndani ya Muungano. Kwa mfano:-

    ..kwanini Tanzania Bara inalipa mishahara ya SMZ wakati waalimu wetu wanacheleweshewa malipo?

    ..kwanini SMZ haichangii ktk gharama za uendeshaji wa vyombo vya Muungano?

    ..kwanini wabunge wa Zanzibar wanachukua posho, wanashiriki na kupiga kura, ktk vikao vinavyojadili masuala ya Tanzania Bara?

    ..kwanini wazanzibari wanaendelea kuajiriwa/kuteuliwa ktk nafasi zisizo za Muungano?

    ..kwanini watanzania bara wanalazimika kutumia passport kuingia wanapokwenda Zanzibar, lakini Wazanzibari wanaingia Tanzania Bara kama msalani?

    ..kwanini wazanzibar wanaruhusiwa kupiga kura ktk chaguzi zetu lakini sisi haturuhusiwi kupiga kura ktk chaguzi zao?

    ..kwanini machangudoa kutoka Bara wanafukuzwa Zanzibar, lakini mashoga toka Zanzibar hawafukuzwi wanapoweka makazi huku Bara?
     
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    S. S. Phares JF-Expert Member

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    Hii ndoa ya Muungano...kaaziii kweli kweli.
     
  11. Bongolander

    Bongolander JF-Expert Member

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    Mzalendo that is a good question! Unajua kuna wakati mwingine ukianza kuwasikiliza wajinga unaweza kuwa unaumiza kichwa. Suala la Ushirikiano wa Kimataifa ni suala la muungano, kwa hiyo hakuna mahali ambapo Tanganyika au Zanzibar zinawatumishi wake kwenye balozi za nje. Sasa hivi ukiangalia make up ya balozi zetu utaona kwa asilimia ya uwakilishi wafanyakazi watangayika ni wachache kuliko wazanzibar, wapo hata mabalozi kutoka Zanzibar. Sasa sijui hoja hii inatoka wapi, au ndio ule ule mdomo mrefu!
     
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    Mwakilishi JF-Expert Member

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    Huu muungano inabidi uangaliwe upya, tukiamua kuendelea nao basi tuwe na serikali tatu, ya bara, ya visiwani na ya muungano; vinginevyo tutakuwa tunaahirisha matatizo tu.
     
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    Dotori JF-Expert Member

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    Tunaelekea pabaya. Nadhani mabalozi wachaguliwe on merits kwani wana kazi kubwa kuitangaza Tanzania hasa wakati wakati huu ambapo tuna advocate Economic Diplomacy. Kugawa ubalizo by virtue of proportional representation tutakuwa tunakosea. I think five ambassadors out of thirty plus embassies is more than a fair share for this little island.
     
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    Dua JF-Expert Member

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    Zanzibar kama wanahitaji kuwa na wawakilishi zaidi uwekwe mpango kamambe ili wawalipie mishahara n.k. kutoka bajeti yao ya serikali ya mapinduzi na tuache kutumia hovyo pesa za walipa kodi kwa uchu wa madaraka.

    Hivi sasa serikali ya Zanzibar ina wawakilishi wengi sana per head katika serikali na sina uhakika kama kweli wote wanahitajika kulipwa pesa nyingi hivyo bila kazi za kueleweka.
     
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    Kwa Taarifa tu:
    Hakuna tena utaratibu wa kuingia Zenj kwa passport, Wabara wanaruhusiwa kupiga kura ili mradi tu awe ameishi Zenj zaidi ya miaka mitano, na Hao Machangudoa wamejaa tele na wanafanya kazi zao bila bughuza.
     
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    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    as long as kuna serikali mbili .....zanzibar lazima kila siku watakuja na jipya
    kwa sababu it doesnt make sense kuwa nchi mbili ziungane zifanye serikali mbili, ilitakiwa iwe moja au tatu!
    kwa manufaa na kuwaridhisha watanzania wote, mie ningependekeza serikali tatu na si moja.
     
  17. Gigo

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    wako sawa...They Are so creative!!!
     
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    Gigo JF-Expert Member

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    Nilisha wahi kusema... serikali moja..Mabunge mawili...
    La sivyo..Hili wazo ni sawa...!!
     
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    Kafara JF-Expert Member

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    nadhani hapo ni kutafuta mgongano katika balozi, mathalani
    -huyo mwakilishi wa zanzibar ubalozini atakuwa anaripoti kwa nani?
    - kama tayari kuna muwakilishi wa zanzibar ubalozini sas balozi atakuwa anawakilisha tanzania, tanzania bara au tanganyika?
    - je mshahara wa huyo muwakilishi utatoka katika fungu gani?

    ninavyofahamu mimi katika baadhi ya balozi wapo maafisa kutoka zanzibar lakini wanafanatambulika kama maafisa wengine wa ubalozi wanaotokea bara yaani maafisa wa ubalozi wa tanzania.
     
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    _SiDe_ Member

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    Wakuu haya yote yamo kwenye matatizo ya Muungano wetu, tokea miaka hiyo hadi sasa kuna kilio ya kuwa hakuna usawa katika Muungano, tume lukuki zimeundwa na watu kuchukuwa chao just kufunika kombe mwanaharamu apite, hakuna hata tume moja iliosikilizwa. Wakati umefika sasa wa kuja na KATIBA mpya na then MUUNGANO mpya. Na ikiwezekana hata kuku wa Tz ajue details za Muungano huo achilia raia wa Tz!
    muungano huu sio kabsaa, Tatu sio mbili. Mazungumzo ya Nahodha na EL kuhusu kero za Muungano sawa CUF na CCM, hayana mwisho. Wao watazungumza na wengine watafuatia kuzungumza.
    yangu macho tu!
     
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