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Gesi asili: Is it "day light robbery?!" Watanzania tunaibiwa mchana kweupe!

Discussion in 'Jamii Intelligence' started by Pascal Mayalla, Jul 27, 2012.

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    Pascal Mayalla JF-Expert Member

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    Wanabodi,

    Nimekutana na hii kitu, nimeisoma, sio tuu nimeshangaa, bali nimechoka, imeniacha hoi, mtu unaweza kupata wazimu, ukikamata SMG, unaweza kuwamiminia risasi Watanzania wenzetu wanauiuza nchi yetu na maliasili zake kwa bei ya bure kwa wageni kwa jina la wawekezaji kwa kisingizio kuwa sisi hatuna uwezo wa kuwekeza!.

    Kumbe na kwenye gesi asili, Watanzania tunaendelea kuibiwa mchana kweupe!. Hatuna Sera, Hatuna Sheria, na bado tunashadadia kugawa vitalu!. Hii ni "day light Robbery!"

    Hebu soma hapa chini!.

    After studying the experience from other countries, the following lessons were learnt:

    • Location of LNG Plant – should be constructed on land (not floating LNG
    on sea)

    • Reasons: Mainly for monitoring and control purposes – monitoring is challenging because of lack of technology and control means

    • There should be only one plant.
    • The GoT/Tanzanians/Public should have majority shares to the entire
    Infrastructure say not less than 51% – to have authority say and decision
    making for the benefit of the country. It may be on PPP model.

    • The proposed land for construction of LNG and other industries utilizing natural gas should be owned by the government. Facilities like roads, water and electricity should be put by GOT and appropriate tariff should be determined for the government.


    1. KWA GESI ALIYOTUJALIA MWENYEZI MUNGU, TUKIJIPANGA VIZURI, TUTAPATA MAENDELEO MAKUBWA KULIKO AMA KAMA SOUTH AFRICA.
    2. MAKAMPUNI MAKUBWA YA UTAFUTAJI WA MAFUTA NA GESI YANAELEWA NA YANATAKA TUBAKI KWENYE HALI YA KUTOELEWA HALI YA BIASHARA YA GESI. YANATULAGHAI KWA NJIA YA UZOEFU NA WALIONAO.
    3. GAS HATA KAMA IKO CHINI YA BAHARI AU CHINI YA ARIDHI NI MALI YETU NA INAYO VALUE YAKE NA SIO MWENYE UWEZO WA KUITOA ARIDHINI BASI NDIE MWENYE GAS DARWIN THIORY ISITUMIKE KWA MALIASILI YA NCHI YETU.

    MY TAKE!.
    1. Kumbe gesi yote inayovunwa nchini sasa na itakayoendelea kuvunwa miaka ijayo, siyo yetu!, ni ya mwekezaji!.

    2. Eti gesi hiyo haina thamani yoyote kwetu huko chini ardhini ilipo, na wala sio mali yetu!, bali ni mali ya mwekezaji anayeichimba na sisi tunauziwa kwa bei ya soko, na faida yote ni ya mwekezaji anayechimba, ila taifa litafaidika na kodi!.

    Nimeshindwa kuendelea kwa sasa kutokana na hasira!.

    Mungu Ibariki Tanzania!.

    Pasco.
     

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    Mwanahisa JF-Expert Member

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    MKuu Pasco,
    Kutokana na hali uliyokumbana nayo naelewa kiasi cha hasira au gadhabu ya maswahibu haya.
    Juzi nimeona kwenye vyanzo mbalimbali vya habari, Raisi wa nchi yetu akifanya mazungumzo na watu wa British Gas, nafikiri wako mbioni kuja kama hawajafika tayari. Huku nimeona British high commissioner wakifanya mpango wa kuwatrain vijana wetu wa VETA, namna watakavyofaidika na uchimbaji huo wa gesi huko Mtwara, nafikiri hawakuona umuhimu wa vijana wa Tanzania kama nchi, wamewaona hao wachache watakaofundishwa namna ya ufagizi, uchimbaji mitaro, na ulinzi. Lakini sio kushika piperange na kufunga mabomba ya gesi.
    Huu ni unafiki tu, kwani wangeweza kutusaidia technical knowledge ya vyuo vyote vya kiufundi kwa gharama tu kidogo ya hicho wanachokipata kwa kutuibia mchana.
     
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    Duduwasha JF-Expert Member

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    Wewe huoni kwanini Magamba hawataki tuwe na elimu ya kutosha.... Wamepigwa Mkwara waendeshe nchi kama inavyoendeshwa... ili tubaki wajinga tuibiwe hadi pale yatakapobaki mashimo matupu ndio watatuachia...

    Kayumba Shule za Kata ... mikopo kwa shida Hospitalini no vifaa wanatuacha tufe tu kwani tuna faida Gani... na wewe ukionekana unaleta Utata na kujua sana Dawa yako unapelekwa Misitu ya Pande koreo linakusubiri huko... Haki ina Gharama Mkuu kuipata
     
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    Mzee2000 JF-Expert Member

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    Nasikia kuna sheria mpya ya gesi inakuja Je serikali inategemewa kuwa na intézése ya kiasi gani?
     
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    Basically British Gas will put LNG processing plant with intention to export the gas to Asian and European markerts. I hope mikataba haitakuwa kama ile ya dhahabu...I also hope tutaweka baadhi ya mambo wazi...mfano kuweka katika sheria partnership na local companies/firms katika suala zima la uendeshaji wa industry nzima ya petroleum. Tukumbuke tunahitaji knowledge transfer na hakuna namna tutaipata kama hatutakuwa part of the big picture sustaining the industry.
     
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    Pasco, nataka kuhamia Ntwara...nimechoka na siasa za JF. Nimeamua kwenda kushinda km 200 katikati ya bahari na mabepari wanaotafuta gesi nijue moja.
     
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    Sizinga JF-Expert Member

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    Nikisikia kuhusu gas yaani moyoo wangu unavunjika kabisa, najua haitatusaidia na itavunwa sana...yaani napatwa na ubaridi moyoni halafu mafanikio nayaona kwa mbali sana...tutabakia mifupa tu hapa kwenye gas
     
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    Saint Ivuga JF-Expert Member

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    Tukija kushagaa tutakuta gesi imeisha
     
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    Kabembe JF-Expert Member

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    Silly season,silly people,silly government,this proves we have reached advanced stage of silliness as a country and its people.
     
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    The Boss JF-Expert Member

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    Sasa Pasco unayemuunga mkono awe next President anasemaje?
    si yupo bungeni na haya yako kwenye corridors zake?
     
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    The Boss, hilo ni swali zuri sana...maana inaonekana watu wanataka power tu bila kujua hiyo power wataifanyia nini wakiipata. Na Pasco ni sehemu ya mchakato huo maana ni watu wawili tofauti ameshaonyesha ishara za kuwaunga mkono
     
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    The Boss JF-Expert Member

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    na yoote haya ya mikataba ya gesi yanatokea while hao presidential hopefulls wako
    kwenye bunge na kwenye kamati za nishati na kadhalika
    kila kinachopita wanashiriki kupitisha
    sasa Pasco si bora hiyo SMG aende akaitumie huko Bungeni?
     
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    Naona sasa Wazanzibari watakubali mafuta na gas viwe mambo ya muungano, si hata bara vipo. Maana hawa watu hupenda tu kujisikia wana utajiri wa mafuta na gas lakini hawazungumzii jinsi wanavyoweza faidika na huo utajiri. Wazenji tuungane sasa kuhakikisha tunafaidika kwa kuishinikiza serikali kuingia mikataba/mipango yenye maslahi.

    Hongera Pasco, ila tokeza barabarani tushirikiane kumaliza hasira tulizonazo.
     
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    Elizabeth Dominic Platinum Member

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    Mimi niliamuaga kuwekaga ile mode ya kupotezea maana ukifikiri sana unaweza kufanya the unthinkable
    Lakini sasa i can't take it anymore....kila nikitizama muelekeo wetu na hawa policy makers wetu najionea giza, najionea siasa badala ya National interest. Do we really have to dance to their silly tunes? Maana ni maneno maneno while twaliwa na hata wale tulioweka a little faith kwao are disappointing us now....the only way out of this is elimination. Dont ask me how they are going to be eliminated....but they will.....
     
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    The Boss JF-Expert Member

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    pole saana
     
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    Nilifikiri tungejifunza kutokana na madudu tuliyofanya kwenye migodi ya dhahabu! Kumbe bado tumelala usingizi wa pono.
    Nadhani inabidi hali ya hewa ibadilike angalau kwa kipindi cha mwaka mmoja ili heshima ipatikane nchi hii.
     
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    Pascal Mayalla JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu the Boss, juzi Ijumaa nilikaa naye Dodoma, amenipa matumaini fulani!.
    Kwa vile you can't miss what you never had, hiyo gesi siyo yetu, ni ya atakayeichimba!. Kwani dhahabu ni yetu?, au Tanzanite?, au urani?. Hii ndio nchi yetu!.
     
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    Pascal Mayalla JF-Expert Member

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    The Boss, hii game imechezwa na the executives, wabunge wako gizani kabisa ila kijana tulionana na kupanga mipango mkakati kuhakikisha hatuibiwi tena!.
     
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    jingalao JF-Expert Member

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    pasco unadhani kwa nini opinion za wengi zinaonyesha kuichoka ccm?sababu ni hizi hizi.ccm haijali maslahi ya nchi,ccm inaogopa wawekezaji badala ya sisi wapiga kura.hata lowassa akishika madaraka hataweza kwenda kinyume na sera za ccm.

    KWA HISANI YA MTU WA TANZANIA
     
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    Kichuguu Platinum Member

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    Kwa nini tusizuie isichimbwe hadi hapo tutakapokubaliana terms za kututosheleza sote?
     
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