Gaza Humanitarian Ships Leave Cyprus, attacked by Israeli Commandos

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Mavi Marmara VIDEO: Footage From Israeli Raid On Gaza Flotilla

 

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Israel's Raid:'Bloody, Bungled takeover' deepens Israel's Isolation.​

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Israel's bloody, bungled takeover of a Gaza-bound Turkish aid vessel is complicating U.S.-led Mideast peace efforts, deepening Israel's international isolation and threatening to destroy the Jewish state's ties with key regional ally Turkey.

And while Israel had hoped to defend its tight blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza with Monday's high-seas raid, it instead appeared to be hastening the embargo's demise, judging by initial international condemnation.

The pre-dawn commando operation, which killed nine pro-Palestinian activists, was also sure to strengthen Gaza's Islamic militant Hamas rulers at the expense of U.S. allies in the region, key among them Hamas' main rival, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, as well as Egypt and Jordan.

"The attack on a humanitarian mission ... will only further alienate the international community and isolate Israel while granting added legitimacy to Hamas' claim to represent the plight of the Palestinian people," said Scott Atran, an analyst at the University of Michigan.

The Mediterranean bloodshed dealt another blow to the Obama administration's efforts to get peace talks back on track. It raised new questions about one of the pillars of U.S. policy - that Hamas can be left unattended as Washington tries to broker a peace deal between Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The raid tested U.S.-Israeli ties that have not yet fully recovered from their most serious dispute in decades, triggered by Israeli construction plans in disputed east Jerusalem.
In the most immediate fallout, the interception of the six-boat flotilla carrying 10,000 tons of supplies for Gaza trained the global spotlight on the blockade of the territory. Israel and Egypt sealed Gaza's borders after Hamas overran the territory in 2007, wresting control from Abbas-loyal forces.


The blockade, under which Israel allows in only essential humanitarian supplies, was intended to squeeze the militants. Instead, it has failed to dislodge Hamas, driven ordinary Gazans deeper into poverty and emerged as a constant source of friction and instability. In trying to shake off the blockade, Hamas intensified rocket fire on Israeli border towns, provoking Israel's three-week military offensive against Gaza 16 months ago.

After the war, the international community remained reluctant to push hard for an end to the blockade, for fear it could prolong the rule of Hamas, branded a terrorist organization by the West.

But after Monday's deadly clash, Israel may find itself under growing pressure to at least ease the blockade significantly.

European diplomats on Monday demanded a swift end to the border closure, while U.S. officials said statements would call for greater assistance to the people of Gaza. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation.

The fate of U.S.-led indirect talks between Israel and the Palestinians was uncertain.
Netanyahu canceled a scheduled Tuesday meeting with President Barack Obama in Washington, and the status of a planned visit to Washington by Abbas next week was not immediately clear.

Abbas temporarily walked away from the negotiations in March, after Israel announced more housing for Jews in traditionally Arab east Jerusalem.

The Palestinian leader on Monday denounced Israel's actions as a "sinful massacre" and met with aides to decide on his next move.

Relations between Abbas and Hamas have become increasingly vitriolic, and extending Hamas rule by lifting the blockade would run counter to Abbas' objectives.

However, public outrage at home might force Abbas' hand - though pressure on him to quit the talks appeared to be muted by the fact that he is negotiating through a U.S. mediator, not directly with Israeli officials.

Abbas must now make a credible effort to open Gaza's borders, said Palestinian analyst Hani al-Masri. "Otherwise, he will be viewed as weak or part of the siege and lose the support of his people," al-Masri said.

Israel dismissed the condemnation, saying its forces came under attack when they tried to board one of the Turkish-flagged aid vessels. However, its point of view seemed to fall on deaf ears.

"Militarily, we can feel quite safe, but not regarding our political international standing," said Alon Liel, a former Israeli diplomat posted in Turkey.

Israel also appears close to destroying its relationship with key strategic ally Turkey.
Turkey decided to scrap three military drills involving Israel and withdrawal of its ambassador.

Turkey, NATO's sole Muslim member, established close military relations with Israel in 1996 under U.S. pressure. Today, the Islamic-rooted government's sensitivities about the plight of Muslims anywhere and aspirations to have a say in the Middle East and Europe are reshaping Turkish foreign policy.

Israeli Raid: 'Bloody, Bungled Takeover' Deepens Israel's Isolation

 

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Pro-Palestinian Jewish demonstrators gather outside the Israeli Embassy in London, Monday, May 31, 2010. Israeli naval commandos stormed a flotilla of ships carrying aid and hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists to the blockaded Gaza Strip on Monday, killing nine passengers in a botched raid that provoked international outrage and a diplomatic crisis.​

A demonstrator wearing an Israeli flag is confronted by pro-Palestinian demonstrators gathering outside the Israeli Embassy in London, Monday, May 31, 2010. Israeli naval commandos stormed a flotilla of ships carrying aid and hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists to the blockaded Gaza Strip on Monday, killing nine passengers in a botched raid that provoked international outrage and a diplomatic crisis​

A youth attends a pro-Palestinian demonstration outside the Israeli Embassy in London, Monday, May 31, 2010.​

 

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Israelis wearing snorkels attend a demonstration in support of Israel following a deadly raid by Israel's navy on an aid flotilla bound for the blockaded Gaza Strip, outside the Turkish embassy in Tel Aviv, Israel.

French plainclothes policemen take away a pro-Palestinian activist during clashes near the Israeli embassy in Paris

A demonstrator wearing an Israeli flag is confronted by pro-Palestinian demonstrators gathering outside the Israeli Embassy in London

Backdropped by British riot police officers, a pro-Palestinian supporter, holding a placard depicting Arab leaders, from left to right, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak, and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas​

 

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Pro-Palestinian activists clash with riot police during a protest near the Israeli embassy in Paris

Hundreds of Israelis wave Israeli flags during a demonstration in support of Israel following a deadly raid by Israel's navy on an aid flotilla bound for the blockaded Gaza Strip, outside the Turkish embassy in Tel Aviv, Israel, Monday, May 31, 2010.


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Pro-Palestinian supporters gather outside Spain's Foreign Ministry during a protest against Israel in central Madrid, Monday, May 31, 2010

Pro-Palestinian supporters gather outside Spain's Foreign Ministry during a protest against Israel in central Madrid, Monday, May 31, 2010.

Protesters clash with police officers outside the Israeli embassy in Athens, Monday, May 31, 2010. ​

 

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Arab Govts demand Independent Investigation.

Arabs demand independent probe of Israeli raid - Yahoo! News

 

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Ha ha ha makomandoo wa kisayuni kweli ni noma..lol

Hao watu asked for trouble, nimeona clip hapo wakiwashambulia askari wa IDF, they r not really innocent kaa blind support inavojaribu kuwatetea..U can't provoke an IDF soldier unless u r really dumb, u can't do that...literally.

 

[Abdulhalim]

Jamaa wanasema wali-disable satellite, mobile phones zikawa kimeo..he he he..

 

[Abdulhalim]

Wahenga wanasema kumkurupusha simba ni ushujaa ila kufuata nyayo zake ni hatari...thats what happens. People tend to forget kwamba IDF would not call for 'special forces' unless kuna security scare inayohitaji 'specialty' counterforce. Ni wazi kuna materrorist walikuwa wame-infiltrate kwene hiyo meli na IDF was probably tipped long before. Hawa materrorists ndio wa kublame kwa kuhatarisha maisha ya hao ma-activists.

 

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unayemwita mpumbavu ni nani? kati ya wapungufu wa akili kuliko wote wewe ni mmojawapo...hauelewi kitu chochote. kaa kimyaa tulia upate lecture bwamdogo....hakuna raia mwema aliyeuawa hata mmoja, hao waliokuwa kwenye meli walikuwa legitimate target ya kushambuliwa, kwasababu walishatoka kwenye kuwa civilian wakawa maadui....israel walikuwa na haki ya kujitetea wenyewe na kutetea mipaka ha usalama wa nchi yao...kwanini wao walipoona wale makomandoo wa kiisrael wanashuka na kamba toka kwenye helikopita kwanini walianza kuwashambulia? unajua hata vitani kabisa hauruhusiwi kumshambulia mtu anayeshuka na parachuzi toka hewani kama hakushambulii wewe?...wao hao unaoita raia wema walianza kuwashambulia, na walipotua kwenye ndege walianza kuwapiga kwa marungu, visu, mapanga, nondo na kufyatua risasi...na walishawachukua wengine ili wawafanye mateka kama yule shalit wanayemshikilia hadi leo...

israel walijua ni raia wema, walipoona wanakutana na mashambulizi, walikuwa na haki ya kuwa na wasiwasi wa nini kimo humo kwenye meli, kwanini wanashambuliwa etc, na wakawasha moto...wanajeshi wengi tu wa israel wamejeruhiwa...wamejerihiwa na nani?na hao unaowaita raia wema...are you out of your mind?

Huu unaitwa upumbavu.
Kuna njia nyingi,lakini sio kuua raia.
Hiyo lecture yako ni mbuzi na ni mambo ya kizamani na ushamba mkubwa sana kufurahia mauaji.Ni u pumbavu!

 

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[Ghost]

i'm no expert of the mid-east

but it seems to me the larger issue, from which all this stems is that the western powers, after world war 2

felt bad for the jewish people (and rightly so)

but then the western powers did something very unethical, they took the land, that in large part was being lived on (and had been for at least hundreds of years) by the palestinians,
and gave it to the jews

of course, the palestinians were rightfully upset

and to make things worse, the new occupiers of the land proceeded to try the former inhabitants of the land they now controlled as second-class citizens.

clearly, on every level, this is wrong

unless one is one of those who considers the bible a real estate document, giving possession of this land to the people of jewish decent, they really have no right to be there, and certainly not in control.

now there are two problems,
1.) the jews are there, like it or not
and
2.) the palestinians, as righteous as their cause is, often behave badly (as understandable as their anger is)

so, what to do?
well, first of all, ALL palestinians should be given full rights, and not have any less rights than any of the other occupiers of this land (namely the israelis)

and secondly, the palestinians should embrace a policy of non-violence (such as was practiced by gandhi and MLK). with that approach, and the righteousness of their cause, who could not support them?

and lastly, the palestinians need to get their own state, since the israelis clearly seem like they will not be fair in such dealings, the west must, one more time step in, and give them a state, just like they gave israel their own state

if the israelis dont like it, tough cookie

they should be more grateful that they were even given this country
...especially since it was founded on stolen land anyway.

anyway, like i said i'm no expert, but the whole thing has gone on long enough, both sides have behaved poorly, so lets just give the palestinians their own country, regardless of what israel wants, and be done with it

 

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i'm no expert of the mid-east

but it seems to me the larger issue, from which all this stems is that the western powers, after world war 2

felt bad for the jewish people (and rightly so)

but then the western powers did something very unethical, they took the land, that in large part was being lived on (and had been for at least hundreds of years) by the palestinians,
and gave it to the jews

of course, the palestinians were rightfully upset

and to make things worse, the new occupiers of the land proceeded to try the former inhabitants of the land they now controlled as second-class citizens.

clearly, on every level, this is wrong

unless one is one of those who considers the bible a real estate document, giving possession of this land to the people of jewish decent, they really have no right to be there, and certainly not in control.

now there are two problems,
1.) the jews are there, like it or not
and
2.) the palestinians, as righteous as their cause is, often behave badly (as understandable as their anger is)

so, what to do?
well, first of all, ALL palestinians should be given full rights, and not have any less rights than any of the other occupiers of this land (namely the israelis)

and secondly, the palestinians should embrace a policy of non-violence (such as was practiced by gandhi and MLK). with that approach, and the righteousness of their cause, who could not support them?

and lastly, the palestinians need to get their own state, since the israelis clearly seem like they will not be fair in such dealings, the west must, one more time step in, and give them a state, just like they gave israel their own state

if the israelis dont like it, tough cookie

they should be more grateful that they were even given this country
...especially since it was founded on stolen land anyway.

anyway, like i said i'm no expert, but the whole thing has gone on long enough, both sides have behaved poorly, so lets just give the palestinians their own country, regardless of what israel wants, and be done with it

well stated but there are extremists on both sides of the aisle who will not let that happen.Thats
where we are stuck.

 

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She said the activists would try to negotiate their entry into Gaza's waters, amid reports that the Israeli navy intends to tow the ships to the nearby city of Ashdod and deport all of those on board.

Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said the activists were "masquerading as human rights activists" while trying to make a political point.

He said both Israel and Egypt had offered to take the aid into Gaza, but that the activists had shown no interest.

Siasa za mashariki ya kati ni ngumu sana! Kumbe 'moshi' ulianza kufuka mapema namna hii na hakuna upande wowote uliochukua hatua kuzuia mauwaji haya...wanaishia kucondemn tu..utadhani itasaidia kurudisha maisha yaliyokwisha potea!

Binafsi najiuliza, kama kulikuwa na tishio hili ni kwa nini wanaharakati waliignore na kuamua kuanza/kuendelea na safari yao? Jumuiya ya kimataifa ilikuwa wapi? Je lengo lilikuwa ni misaada tu au kuna zaidi?

 

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Ni vigumu kutetea hawa wanaojiita inosenti, mbona nimeona wanamshambulia huyo komando wa ki israel kama mpira wa kona.

 

[Ghost]

Ni vigumu kutetea hawa wanaojiita inosenti, mbona nimeona wanamshambulia huyo komando wa ki israel kama mpira wa kona.

Funny how all the Israeli apologists keep talking about how these ships are supposedly heading into 'Israeli' waters.

Not content with taking most of the Palestinians' lands and then boxing them in vast concentration camps, the Israelis now claim the sea off the coast of Gaza. So the notional Palestinian state will be the only nation on Earth with a beach but no waters?

What happened in the 1940s, however ghastly, does not justify this level of bastardry in 2010. Israelis had better get that message pronto, or their state will surely be doomed. And all the nuclear weapons they care to amass will be to no avail.
This is what happened in the 1940s also:

"On the 11th July, 1947, the "Exodus" sailed from France, with 4,500 illegal immigrants, most of them refugees from the DP camps of Germany. When the ship entered open waters, a British battleship pulled alongside and followed it all the way to the coast of Mandate Palestine. When it reached a distance of 40 kilometers from the coast of Tel Aviv, six British destroyers blocked its progress. British sailors boarded the ship, and a battle broke out between the British and the immigrants. The immigrants used iron bars, pegs, screws, nails, bottles, and cans of food, which they threw at the British. Three British shipmates, including 1st mate William Bernstein, a U.S. sailor from San Francisco, died as a result of bludgeoning and several dozen others were injured before the ship was taken over.

http://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/act/38zion.html

So, I guess the moral of the story is that it is OK to try to run a blockade if you're a European Jew.

Sasa jamani ths is a vicious cycle which will happen again and again and again...unless the citizens of these two 'countries' do something about it themselves and don't let politicians interfere. Its the ordinary people who are dying wajameni.

haya, yetu macho...but this is very sad indeed, and the fact that it has been goin on for so long makes me sick.:angry:

 

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Huu unaitwa upumbavu.
Kuna njia nyingi,lakini sio kuua raia.
Hiyo lecture yako ni mbuzi na ni mambo ya kizamani na ushamba mkubwa sana kufurahia mauaji.Ni u pumbavu!

kwani vifo ni vifo akifa mpalestina au mwarabu tu, akifa mwisraeli mnafanya sherehe..mbona hao hao unaowatetea ndo waliwashambulia IDF, na wakawafanya hadi wawashe moto, kama wasingefanya hivyo hayo yote yasingetokea, pia walikuwa na kiburi kutotii mamlaka ya IDF then they got what they wanted.....kwa unavyoandika hapa, unaonyesha una mapungufu mengi ya kufikiri...una magazabu yasiyokuwa na maana yoyote, unajibu kwa hasira si kwa hoja ndo maana unatukana, so, mimi nimekuignore tu kwasababu najua hauelewi, yaani uko mbali mno na ufahamu. tuletee njia mbadala ambayo IDF wangefanya...mwanajeshi anayeshuka kwenye helcopiter kushukia kuwakagua watu kwenye meli, wale watu kwenye meli wakaanza kumshambulia kwa silaha etc wewe kama mwanajeshi utafikiri nini? kitu cha kwanza utaelewa kuwa wale hawakuwa raia wema, walikua wamevaa tu mask ya uraia wema kumbe ni maadui zako...

ingekuwa vitani enzi zetu ningeita acts of perfidy kwasababu mtu mwingine anaweza kuwa amevaa uraia mwema kumbe anaingiza mabom na anataka kuwalipua israel...., na utakuwa na mashaka humo kwenye meli wamebeba mabom, silaha za aina gani etc hivyo kitendo cha kuwashambulia wanajeshi wa israel hadi wakaamua kurukia kwenye maji ili wajiokoe kilifanya wanajeshi hao waamue kuwashambulia kwasababu walikuwa hawajui kilichomo kwenye meli na sababu ipi wanawashambulia...hakuna anayefurahia kifo hapa, ila wewe mgumu kuelewa, nenda shule acha hasira utapasuka bure, mnalialia tu bila kuangalia upande wa pili wa shilingi...

 

[MkamaP]

Funny how all the Israeli apologists keep talking about how these ships are supposedly heading into 'Israeli' waters.

Not content with taking most of the Palestinians' lands and then boxing them in vast concentration camps, the Israelis now claim the sea off the coast of Gaza. So the notional Palestinian state will be the only nation on Earth with a beach but no waters?

What happened in the 1940s, however ghastly, does not justify this level of bastardry in 2010. Israelis had better get that message pronto, or their state will surely be doomed. And all the nuclear weapons they care to amass will be to no avail.
This is what happened in the 1940s also:

"On the 11th July, 1947, the "Exodus" sailed from France, with 4,500 illegal immigrants, most of them refugees from the DP camps of Germany. When the ship entered open waters, a British battleship pulled alongside and followed it all the way to the coast of Mandate Palestine. When it reached a distance of 40 kilometers from the coast of Tel Aviv, six British destroyers blocked its progress. British sailors boarded the ship, and a battle broke out between the British and the immigrants. The immigrants used iron bars, pegs, screws, nails, bottles, and cans of food, which they threw at the British. Three British shipmates, including 1st mate William Bernstein, a U.S. sailor from San Francisco, died as a result of bludgeoning and several dozen others were injured before the ship was taken over.

http://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/act/38zion.html

So, I guess the moral of the story is that it is OK to try to run a blockade if you're a European Jew.

Sasa jamani ths is a vicious cycle which will happen again and again and again...unless the citizens of these two 'countries' do something about it themselves and don't let politicians interfere. Its the ordinary people who are dying wajameni.

haya, yetu macho...but this is very sad indeed, and the fact that it has been goin on for so long makes me sick.:angry:

Kama wangekua inosenti wangetii amri hii kiurahisi, ukizingatia wao sio wapalestina. Kama wangekuwa wapelestina ningeelewa kwanini wanagoma.angalia hii short movie hapa