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Gays marriage is a result of failure by women, priest claimed

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Mchili, Oct 30, 2009.

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    Mchili JF-Expert Member

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    Priest draws women's wrath over gays - Daily Nation 27/10/09


    A priest sparked a rare debate during Sunday Mass at St Anthony Catholic Cathedral in Malindi when he raised the sensitive issue of marriage between two Kenyan gay men in London recently. Fr Ambrose Muli invited the wrath of the women in the congregation when he suggested that the marriage between Mr Daniel Chege Gichia, 39 and Mr Charles Ngengi, 40, on October 17, was a result of failure by women.
    “Today as we celebrate this Holy Mass, I am a very, very disappointed man,” said Fr Muli when he begun his sermon drawn from the book of Mark.
    The packed cathedral was immediately sent into dead silence with the congregation wondering what the priest was up to, or what had disappointed him.
    Fr Muli continued: “This so-called marriage between the two Kenyan men in London last week, why do you think it happened? What went wrong? What is the matter?”
    This drew murmurs from the congregation culminating with loud “No, no, no” from the women when the priest said: “This was because the women are no longer marriageable”.
    Fr Muli said men were resorting to marrying one another probably because the women had failed to provide what they should in marriage.
    “Women, from the way I see it, have become too complicated and unattractive in marriage. You don’t provide what God intended you to give in marriage. You have frustrated the men so much leading them to trying among themselves whether they will get the joy that comes with marriage”.
    Women could not take it lying down. They shouted back at the priest saying the problem was not with them, but with the men.
    But the priest challenged them further that they had to be more Godly and “more womanly” to attract men for marriage.
    “There is something very very wrong with women these days. You have failed to handle men the way you should. Men don’t see anything useful in you. The job that God gave you, you have failed to do,” he said.
    However, the priest encouraged Christians to devote more time to prayer so that the vice does not spread and destroy the family fabric, which is the backbone of the church of Christ.
    “Parents have a duty to bring up children in a righteous manner and lead them to God. Most of the evil manifested in an adult starts in childhood and parents contribute immensely to it,” he said.
    Although the church cannot ex-communicate gay people “because they are also sons of God” it was the duty of parents and community to cultivate righteousness and high moral standards among children.
    He said gay people are not necessarily more sinful but the practice went against God’s intentions of procreation. Christians have a divine obligation to put things right, the priest said. Mr Gichia wedded Mr Ngengi in London on October 17 during the first recognized same sex relations under the 2005 British law. The tourist haven of Malindi has had many cases of homosexuality involving foreign tourists and local people. Several white men have appeared in court to answer such charges. Fr Muli, therefore, urged parents to guard their children against these acts.
     
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    Mchili JF-Expert Member

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    Eti majamen wanaogopa kina dada!!!! Hii ni ya kujadili wanajamvi.
     
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    Before I puke....let me ponder on some key issues...
    So this Priest is shamelessly implying that:
    - men are more marriageble than women ( wanafaa kuolewa zaidi ya wanawake)
    -Men are now providing that which women ought to provide but are not providing
    - I dont want to believe that what this married man ( aliyeolewa) is going to give/provide to his fellow man is what women are supposed to be providing to their men in marriage!
    Looking at the history of the kenyan gay that just wed in London, it leaves much to be desired!

    I for one would never ever wish to have his attributes even if it means thats what it takes to make a good wife.

    THIS IS AN INSULT TO MENFOLK.......prove me wrong

    I stand to be corrected though.
     
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    dONT PUKE VC

    Ni mambo yatakayokuwa kawaida tu huko tuendako, maana kwa mtindo huo utatapika hadi nyongo ikutoke...!

    Labda cha msingi ni kuwauliza wanaume wanaowafuata hawa wanaume wenzao, huwa ninini cha mno wanachopata kwa hawa wenza!

    Lakini kwa akili zangu, nadhani huwa wote wanafanyiana mambo machafu, si kwamba mmoja anakuwa mwanamke ..Hapana!, ... ndio maana wanaamua kuishi pamoja wakitimiziana ufirauni huo kwa zamu...huh!
     
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    Magezi JF-Expert Member

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    ni akili mbovu tu ya baadhi ya wanaume kutamani makalio ya wengine. Mbona wanawake wapo wengi tu na wazuri?? Janaume la nini na midevu hiyo...??? loh
     
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    Huyu mchungaji alistahili kuzomewa kabisa!
    Amewatukana wanaume zaid ya alivyowatusi wanawake.
     
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    Alihitaji kushangiliwa huyo amesema ukweli, hebu soma huyu mdada alichoniandikia

     
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    Darwin JF-Expert Member

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    lol
     
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    Sorry kama nimekukwaza!
     
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    Sidhani kama gays wanakurupuka ukubwani na kuanza ushoga. Wengi wanaanza kabla hawaja-experience hizo frustration za mademu na hao wanaofikia kuoana, nadhani wamejichanganya wenyewe kiasi kwamba hawajui hata wanachokitafuta kwenye hiyo ndoa.
     
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    Wala hujanikwaza
    me nililua nacheka huyu anayesema haya
    Hii sentensi ina mashindano yakuchekesha.
     
  12. TIMING

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    Yaani hiyo ndiyo maana yake!!!

    Nimejicheki halafu nikaanza kuogopa!!!

    I was trying to imagine, myself with all this ego naamka, namuandalia mume wangu msosi, naenda kazini narudi jamaa ananishika maskio nk.. Aaaarrrgghhh!!!!

    Disgusting!!!
     
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    Masanilo JF-Expert Member

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    HAhahahahah men ego centrism at large....anakushika mata.ko....hahahaha unaweza muharibu dental formula!
     
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    TIMING JF-Expert Member

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    PJ

    Kuna couples nyingine, mmoja anakuwa bibi full time mazee!!! Sipati picha jamaa na midevu yake.....:(:mad::mad::(
     
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    Masa, unafikiri utani!!??? we ipe mental picture halafu uone, yaani unaweza rusha ngumi hewani aisee


    Gagggeemmmu!!!
     
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    Quite right. I think the pastor went a little over the top to blame the womenfolk of these times. Sodomy did not start yesterday. It goes far back to the ages of Biblical Ibrahim and Loti. Hali hii iliendelea hata wakati wa Waisrael wakati tayari wakiwa Canaan. Vita kati ya makabila kumi na moja ya Israel dhidi ya kabila la Benyamini chimbuko lake ni kutaka kulawiti mgeni aliyetembelea Jerusalem enzi hizo. Mtume Paul katika moja ya nyaraka zake analikemea hilo maana ilikuwa ni tabia ya kawaida huko Asia Ndogo. Kwani wanawake hawakuwepo zama hizo? Au walikuwa na tabia mbaya kama wa leo? Hapana. Ushoga ni tabia ya kuendekeza na hasa kuanzia utotoni.

    Personally nikiwa kijana nimepata post ya kwanza nikawekwa Dodoma Hotel kwa wiki mbili. Kuna mhindi expartriate alikuwa pale kajaribu kuwa karibu na mimi lakini nikamstukia kwa tabia zake na ghafla akahama hotel na sikumuona tena! Majuzi nimepokea ombi toka kwa mtu mmoja (hapa DAR) kupitia mtandao wa Tagged akiniomba ushoga! It is horrible but it can happen to our children so we need to be viglant.
     
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    Mchungaji anahitaji makonde huyo!! Shiiiiiit. Au naye huwa analawiti?? Mungu msamehe, hajui atendalo.

    Pia ameshindwa kuangalia mambo kwa mapana. Na wanawake wanaosagana (wasagaji) nao tuseme ni kushindwa kwa wanaume katika ndoa?? Always try to ballance the matters!!!
     
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    Tena tabia hii sasa inatisha na imeenea sana.Wakina mama wengi sasa wanaishi kwa wasiwasi maana kama una mtoto wa kiume ..ni tishio.
    Wapo wanaume wanajulikana sana kwa sifa hii mbaya ya kutongoza vijana wa kiume.
    Nyie wenye sura za mvuto, watanashati mko kwenye hatari kubwa. Kaeni chonjo.Hiki alichokisema huyu mhubiri tunakichukulia mzaha..lakini ukikifikiria sana implications za maneno kama yale tena kutoka kwa kiogozi wa kidini ni far reaching.Ni excuses kama hizi sasa zitatumiwa na wanaume ma bazazi kurubuni vijana wa kiume.
     
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    Lol...nadhani ata target wale wenye mwonekano wa kimayai mayai la sivyo anahatarisha kuvurugwa vibaya sana kwa kufanya THE UNTHINKABLE!!!
     
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    We all know from previous that Mombasa is very famous for such kind of rabbish behavior, for Kenyans I don't wander to hear such stories. Carry on ou Kenyans, ****** ya Mwanaume mwayaona bora kuliko Dada zetu. Kinyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
     
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