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Former SEALs and CIA operatives to launch campaign blasting Obama over leaks and bragging over bin L

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    Former SEALs and CIA operatives to launch campaign blasting Obama over leaks and bragging over bin Laden death


    • Ben Smith, former SEAL, says: 'It is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking information to the enemy. It will get Americans killed.'
    • Video released by OPSEC - short for Operational Security - which claims to be nonpartisan
    A group of former U.S. Navy SEALs, other Special Forces troops and CIA operatives is to launch a national campaign to tell Barack Obama: ‘Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did.'
    The group, calling itself OPSEC, short for Operational Security, will also highlight the slew of national security leaks from the Obama administration, which Mitt Romney has also focused on.
    And in May, former and serving SEALS told MailOnline of their dismay that Obama had begun to use the killing of the terror mastermind to his own political advantage.
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    [​IMG] Not in my name: Navy SEAL Ben Smith speaks out against the Obama administration's leaking of classified material



    [​IMG] Spreading the message: OPSEC insists it is nonpartisan and not connected to any presidential campaign or political party

    'Intelligence and Special Operations members are angry and frustrated at how our work has been used for political advantage by officials across government, including President Obama himself who bears special responsibility as Commander in Chief,' Scott Taylor, chairman of OPSEC and a former SEAL, told Reuters.
    'We want the American people to understand the cost of these leaks and politicization both on those who serve and on our national security and to hold those in positions of leadership accountable if it doesn't stop.'
    Last month, Ryan Zinke, a retired SEAL commander and Republican state senator, launched a new super PAC to run ads in swing states against Obama.
    In 2004, the famous Swift Boat ads of 2004 cast doubt on Senator John Kerry's Vietnam service and could well have cost him the White House.

    [​IMG] Savvy: Obama pictured having breakfast today with military veterans in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Former Navy SEALs are to launch a national campaign criticizing him for using their work to his political advantage


    Leaders of the OPSEC insist it is nonpartisan and not connected to any presidential campaign or political party.
    Its opening attack on Obama is a 22-minute film. In it, Ben Smith, a former SEAL, says: 'Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not.


    'As a citizen, it is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking information to the enemy. It will get Americans killed.'
    MailOnline was the first to report dissatisfaction among SEALs with what they saw as Obama's unseemly attempts to highlight his own role in the death of bin Laden.

    Zinke was among those interviewed.

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    Sacrifice: Debbie Lee (left) speaks on the OPSEC video. Her son Marc Alan Lee (right, with his mother) was the first Navy SEAL killed in Iraq

    Their dismay was triggered by an Obama campaign ad entitled 'One Chance'. In it President Bill Clinton was featured saying that Obama took 'the harder and the more honorable path' in ordering that bin Laden be killed. The words 'Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?' were then displayed.
    The White House also marked the first anniversary of the SEAL Team Six raid that killed bin Laden inside his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan with a series of briefings and an NBC interview in the Situation Room designed to highlight the 'gutsy call' made by Obama.
    In a press conference, Obama trumpeted his personal role and implied that Romney, who in 2008 expressed reservations about the wisdom of sending troops into Pakistan, would have let bin Laden live.

    [​IMG] Critical: a group of former Navy SEALs has slated Obama for national security leaks including information surrounding the death of Osama bin Laden



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    Compromised: The video released by a group of military experts believes that the assassination of Osama bin Laden (left) was compromised by the speed in which President Obama (right) announced it to the country

    'I said that I'd go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him, and I did,' Mr Obama said. 'If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they'd do something else, then I'd go ahead and let them explain it.'
    Obama has sought to capitalise on his foreign policy record on the stump, emphasising the death of bin Laden, the end of the Iraq war and his plans to pull troops out of Afghanistan.
    But Romney and other Republicans have pointed to media stories reports about secret drone attacks, informers within al Qaeda and cyber warfare attacks against Iran that have helped boost image as a strong leader.

    [​IMG] Combat: The new video suggests that Obama is fighting personal political battles using the work of the U.S. military



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    Intelligence: Retired CIA officer Dave LaMorte (left) and operative Simon (right), who could not reveal his identity, spoke of the dangers that the American military were being placed in because of government leaks

    Scott Taylor, president of Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Incorporated and a former SEAL who ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for a congressional seat in Virginia in 2010, said his group was a 'watchdog organisation' but added that the Obama administration 'has certainly leaked more than others'.
    Fred Rustmann, a former CIA case and now OPSEC spokesman, said its focus on leaks was 'not a partisan concern' but the Obama administration had been leaking ‘to help this guy get re-elected, at the expense of peoples' lives', adding: 'We want to see that they don't do this again.'
    The Obama administration is pointing to a CNN interview last month in which Admiral William McRaven, who oversaw the raid, said: 'At the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden for this operation, that made the hard decisions, that was instrumental in the planning process, because I pitched every plan to him.'
     
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    He didn't do that.....somebody else did it.
     
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    History remembers kings! Not soldiers!-Agamemnon
     
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    Then history is an ass.
     
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    However you call it, it will come down to 300 years plus that Obama got Bin Laden. Ben Smith and others are in political operations those who are in the field they are quite waiting for orders from CIC the POTUS, current name hold the office is Obama.

    These types of people are so dangerous in military as they are ready to sacrife the country keeping Obama in politically disadvantaged position. GOP are worse than Al Qaeda in their minds set.
     
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    Hot air and smoke!
     
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    SEAL wamekuwepo kwa miaka mingi na Bin Laden alitafutwa kwa udi na uvumba muda wote wa miaka 8 ya rais Bush. Under Obama administration SEAL wamemkamata bin Laden, sasa kwanini Obama asijigambe, plus nani alitoa order? Au huyu mjeshi anata kusema wamerakani wooote walitoa order usiku ule? Siasa za Marekani wakati mwingine ni kizunguzungu tupu.
     
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    Hawa watu kweli hamnazo,wamepania sana na hawampendi Obama.Mbona Bush alitumia kifo cha Saddam for political advantage wakati anagombea second term tena vs Kerry ambaye ni a war veteran?Nakumbuka ile swift boat campaign ya veterans waliomsapoti Bush jinsi walivyomponda Kerry kuwa si a war hero etc.Naona wanatumia the same methods against Obama.Na campaign zimekuwa dirty na nafikiri it would get even worse.One thing I know tho, Obama is from Chicago,kwa dirty politics huko ndo nyumbani,hii ni historically,ndo maana Romney juzi alimpiga kijembe Obama na kusema apeleke hizo politics zake Chicago.Toka Romney amchague yule Ryan,nilijuwa wameamuwa iwe mbaya.Tutaona na kusikia mengi this time.
     
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    Wanajeshi walimpenda Bush lakini wengi hawampendi Obama ndiyo tofauti hapo. Siyo Obama tuu lakini Democrats wengi huwa hawapendwi na wanajeshi. Nakumbuka kuna sehemu moja Clinton alienda kuonana na Marines halafu wengi wao waligeuka nyuma kama alama ya kumdharau Clinton. Sasa wakiona mtu kama Obama anajitapa kuhusu kazi za kijeshi, huwa wanachukia sana.
     
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    Lete source maana haingii akilini wanajeshi kumvunjia heshima amiri jeshi mkuu regardless anatoka chama gani.
     
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    Source ni mimi maana niliona kwa macho. Kumbuka kuwa miaka ile ya Clinton kulikuwa hakuna youtube ambayo iko leo na inaonyesha kila kitu.
     
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    Uliona wapi wewe?
     
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    Amuulize General Stanley A. McChrystal what happens when you disrespect the CIC
     
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    Kama wanamchukia Obama kwa wanaendelea ku-carry successful missions directed by Obama?. Hao wanaompinga Obama ni wapuuzi wachache walioingia jeshini kwa sababu binafsi si za uzalendo. Na hao ex-officers wanachofanya ni kujidhalilisha, wangekuwa na effect kama Obama angekuwa si rais, lakini Obama aliyoyafanya kila mwananchi anajua. Walifanikiwa kwa Kerry, this time watumie mihela inayomwagwa na kina Sheldon Adelson ila this time is not GOP's turn, they have to wait 2016 to face Hillary
     
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    Kwani huyo Obama wako ana nini hadi apendwe na wote? Wapo ambao wanaweza wakawa hawampendi lakini haina maana ya kwamba yeye si amiri jeshi wao mkuu.

    Vivyo hivyo, inawezekana kabisa kuwa hata Bush hakupendwa na wanajeshi wote kwa sababu watu hatufanani na hivyo mtu huwezi kupendwa na watu wote.

    Hoja hapa ni kumvunjia heshima amiri jeshi mkuu ilhali bado uko kwenye service. Na mimi hapa nasimamia principle. Sijali ni rais wa chama gani. Kwa mwanajeshi kumvunjia heshima amiri jeshi mkuu PASIPO na sababu ya msingi ni kosa.

    Other than that hicho ki Obama chako chupi imebana mwaka huu. Hope and change kush nehi. Sasa hivi kinahaha tu. Hata crowds kwenye tumikutano twake si kama za wakati ule. Puuuuf.....mtalia sana Nov.6.
     
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    Mkuu tuongelee hoja, Obama ni wa Michelle, nafiri unatakiwa kuwa na tafisida unasikia kijana?. Hakuna wa kumshinda Obama kwenye uchaguzi huu, Romney is a moron cheese head who doesn't have any substance to convince people with brains to vote for him.
     
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    Ulivyo mjinga huwezi hata kufuata ushauri wako mwenyewe. Pathetic!!!
     
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    Hivi hii kesi ya Romney kulipa kodi kidogo au kutokulipa kabisa imeishia wapi?

    Maana jamaa nilisoma kuwa kagoma kutoa report zake za ulipaji na akatoa ya mwaka mmoja tu.

    Nafikiri kwenye KODI Romney HATATOKA.
     
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    Hiyo ilikuwa ni minor distraction tu kwa sababu Obama hataki spotlight kwenye rekodi yake.

    Sasa hivi hakuna tena anayeongelea mambo ya kodi. Na kama kweli Romney angekuwa hajalipa basi IRS wamngekuwa washagundua zamani.

    Na kutoa tax returns si lazima na Romney hajakataa kutoa. Amekubali kutoa za miaka 2. Zaidi ya hapo hawapati kitu.
     
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    Tatizo siyo kuwa hatoi. Tatizo ni kuwa anaKWEPA kulipa kwa kusajili baadhi ya mali zake nje ya USA.

    Hili jambo limelalamikiwa sana kwa sababu ni ukwepaji wa kodi kwa kutumia sheria.

    Pamoja na kuwa Sheria unakuwa hujavunja, ila dhamira je?

    Ni sawa na Baba kuowa Binti yake aliyemaliza miaka 18 nchi ambazo hazikatazi. Sheria itakuwa haijavunjwa ila dhamira!?

    Utatakaje kuwa Rais wa nchi wakati hata kodi unalipia nchi nyingine?
     
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